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This will be a real shame to break it up. I have really enjoyed this journal Ian, and look forward to the next one. Thank you Charlie

Looks fabulous George. Good luck in the comp. Charlie

Just go to the sponsors forum on this site, and go to freshwater shrimp. There is a shortcut to their site. Charlie

The tank is lookng great Victor. The last shot of the mirrored bubble is superb.

Andy, you have to pm where you got the wood from and how much it cost. I have been scouring the internet for some like that. Looking forward to the new scape. Charlie

Great mag, really informative. Just thought i would have a quick look but had to fire the coffee pot up and sit down for a read from start to finish :)

If you go with the carbonated water Jon ( how amano first got into co2 ) defo go without livestock. Too hard to get safe levels in a tank that small. Charlie.

I did this a Few years ago in an ikea vase ( just like yours ). Daily water changes were essential and no shrimp. They will escape !

She would need to be a good multi tasker. Waving a live hairdryer over a fish tank full of water and not paying attention could be nasty ......or was that the plan ;)

Not only is the tank Amano esq, you now have a team of hairdryer holders as well, just like the man himself ;)

Great to see the hairdryer in use.

Glad to hear it is not being totally broken down. Evolution is the way forward, just how nature intended !

NO ! how can you even think about breaking this down yet !

Looks like Andy is being super secretive about his fish choice ;)

Great stuff Ian. It is looking REALLY nice now.

I really liked the first layout, so will be looking forward to this one.

Which layout did you go for ?

Love the insitu shots. Just what aquascaping is really about. . . . Buckets with bits of kit in and cables wrapping around everything. I can't quite see the wet pubble on the floor, but it must be there somewhere :) The tank looks great, hope it does well. Charlie

Ady, i think the 'gas injection system' is an ADA Vuppa, surface skimmer. Im sure Victor will clear it up.

Love it Victor, well done.

Love the fts. Not sure how you bullied the neons into ranks of 3 but it worked. I personally love the background, its like looking up on a summers day. Good luck in the IAPLC. Charle

Hey Vito, for the surface film you can also buy a skimmer, eheim do one for about 30 pounds, ADA also do one in steel for considerabley more. i think someone has done a review of the eheim one on here, just do a search. Tank is looking nice. Chalire

Take time to acclimatise them slowly, lights off etc. I would do a water change now aswell after their deaths in the tank to remove any pollution from them.

Ian, i know you are using an eheim 2073 with this and previous set ups. Can i ask how you find this filter in terms of reliability, noise, maintenance etc. I have always used eheim classic canisters and am considering replacing one with a 2073 and would appreciate some feedback from someone who...

Think Ian said he was going to use Christmas and weeping moss ?

Yeah, looked like most of the plants came prepped by his minions in massive boxes. The amount of plants that went in is astounding. Some of the glosso plantlets look like entire pots. Budget is obviously not a problem. I could probably plant the whole tank with one pot ;)

Thought i would share this with those that aren't aware of the endless ADA videos on you tube. Amano is creating a 240 cm whopper in a university canteen. I'm obviously going wrong by not having a team of slaves to do my 'dirty' work. Hope the link works, if not just copy and paste. Enjoy...

Brilliant stuff. Great to see what is possible with time and dedication. Fingers crossed all goes well.

Looking good now man. Defo let some of the tennelus runners spread. I would plant some hm stems into the gaps around some of the large stones to envelop them a bit more and break the great wall of hm up a bit. Keep the updates coming .

Ha ha didn't see the otto that appears at about 22 secs till it moved at 38 secs. Nearly jumped out of my skin :)

Love the shrimp pic.

You turn out some great looking scapes Dan. This does not dissapoint and due to its shape of tank and unusual hardscape ( tree trunk ) really stands out. The fact that it appears to be relatively easy to live with makes it even more impressive. Great stuff Charlie

Very thorough start, and a great looking set up. I will be looking forward to see how this goes Iain.

Any developments on this yet ?

Good choice on the cherries. I found they bred quite easily in the tank so you may get some more soon !

Ha ha, love the idea that amano re plants just for the photo. That is probably how he escapes from algae issues aswell :) I used to think skate board tricks were never landed, just looked insane in the photos in mags until i started skating and met up with guys who could pull and land kick flips...

Thanks for that George, obviously not stopping the plants from growing :) . You do have plenty light to get away with losing a bit aswell ;). The rotala with look lush if you can acheive a similar effect to the photo. Looking forward to the results.

Years ago we all used to have corrugated plastic drip trays over the top of our tanks that degraded over time. You have said that you are using a glass top for your tank George, do you find this has any effect on your lighing for the tank ? I would imagine not, provided it is kempt clear of dust...

Great series of last photos. Looking forward to what you might have in store . . .

Keep the pics coming. You have this tank at home every day to get bored of. Some of us have to switch the internet on to get a fix like this. Don't listen to George, what does he know ;). I would let the hc grow for a bit longer and see what happens. Rome wasn't built in a day :)

The new Inlet looks great, it really compliments the clean lines of the set up. It must be nice to finally get rid of the green eheim tubing :)

I think Alastair is refering to his other journal , chocolate puddle. I've just checked for updates but none yet. Charlie

Just stumbled across your journal. The tank looks amazing. I love the fact you just used sand. My lfs used sand in all his planted tanks and they grew amazingly well. Just shpws you don't need to spend a small fortune on fancy substrate systems if you get everything else right. Looking forward...

Keith, Go to forum, click journal to enter journal forum. The journal you are looking for is eight down , a new adventure by ian holditch. Excellent journal Charlie

Great result. Now you just need to fatten the shrimp up, or crank up the filter so its impossible to swim against the flow ;)

Another thought . Try blocking the other holes and maybe the shrimp will be forced out ?

Remove spray bar from tank, quickly use hacksaw to cut above and below shrimp, effectively taking a slice out of the spray bar, then very carefully use blade os sharp scissors to snip up to the hole the shrimp is stuck in. You will wreck your spray bar but could save the shrimp. Good luck.

Thank you, will do.

Paulo, can you direct me to where i can find out how to pm you. I have looked but to no avail. How much donation where you looking for ? Cheers charlie

I am loving the moss reflection in the first photo. Reminds me of a lakeland photo with an island reflected into the dead calm lake surface.

Thanks for the reply. I saw the units on a marine forum but wanted to know if any where using the freshwater model. Very expensive compared to other manufacturers but look great.

Wow, great tank in situ. The photo looks amazing.

Looking forward to seeing this develop ...... Again. Good luck.

Great journal Stu. I love the last photos. Starting with such a high biomass has really helped the tank look grown in, in such a short space of time. I keep coming back to this journal to view the images. Put some more on soon !

Thanks for that, i love how the roots form a floating forest. Let me know when you have any spare, i would love to have some :) Charlie

Loving the tanks. What are the floating plants ?

Just to chuck my ten penneth (sp?) into the mix. I have had amano shrimp chase and eat other amanos in a 200 ltr tank. The eaten shrimp may have been ill but did not show any ill effects prior to becoming the main course for their tank mates. Mlgt may have a point about the pheremones ?

A great little tank and journal. Shame you lost some of the shrimp. Looking forward to the re scape.

Just a thought but could the opaque egg shells be ones that the shrimplets have hatched from, especially as you have new babies in there ?

Great journal George. I love your attention to detail, your willingness to share ideas, successes and failures ( obviously that does not happen that often). Keep up the good work. Charlie

Thanks for the shot of the full set up Vito, looks really slick. As for the melt if i was you i would dust off the spare Koralia you have and try it out until your spare filter parts arrive. This will eliminate flow from the equation, and if successful will arrest the melt of your HC which...

Great looking tank and journal. Its nice to see your 'home' tank as well as ypur usual gallery tanks. I can appreciate how having to maintain tanks at work you want a less demanding tank at home, yet you still pull off a stunning tank. That was quite a steep gradient at the back and h Great to...

Great looking set up. Do you have any shots of the setup to include the light and fitting ? I would be interested to see how it all looks. How is the melt, developing ?

Thinking of going down the LED route. These lights hit the spot for function and aesthetics but does anyone have any practical experience of them ?

Never heard that before. Have kept amano shrimp for over 15 years in tanks with crypts (lots of them) but never anubias. I have never experiencd any problems when trimming or suffering the inevitable crypt melt . 5 to 6 leaves should be fine to trim. I would .

I thought it would be a good idea to find out what photo packages members are using to edit (remove algae!!) from their photos. Can anyone provide details of what they are using eg photoshop elemenst 7, and how they find the packages to use. If this is already posted elsewhere my apologies and...

Thanks, I was just interested in trying to re-create the products such as brightly K and the step series as I have got used to their dosing regime. I wasn't able to find any other threads that had a more detailed analysis of their composition or any successful attempts to recreate them, but...

There are many threads on the site about DIY ferts such as TPN+. Has anyone had any success re-creating ADA ferts. I have found the origional products used together very effective but very expensive. If anyone has can you share your recipes / analysis, and how you have found them working. Andy

I'm trying to achieve a thick lawn with tennelus, does anyone know of the correct pruning / maintenance technique for this plant . Thanks

I was wondering if anyone has experiance of Amano shrimp and cherry shrimp. I currently have about 20 amano in a 180l tank and think they are superb, but am struggling to find a supplier for other tanks i want to set up. Yes i have tried to breed them but never got past day 20 with the tiny...

thanks for the replies

Does anyone out there still use RO water. There appears to be very little mention of it on any of the forums. I was wondering what products people use to re-build the ro water for their tanks. I currently use SERA mineral salt for trace elemnts and KH increase but would be interested to hear...