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This is not the forum I come to for drama; and it really does feel like it’s getting worse. I want to walk away tbh, so many years on here and knowledge gained; yet I feel wronged. I squarely put fault on founders inaction. Tim shouldn’t have been deleting accounts tho 😩 Please; mods, Zeus...

Your tank looks really beautiful! Such healthy plant growth. I would love to know the details about what you've used to create it (size of tank, substrate, etc). And also how you overcame your algae crises.

I thought I would take the time to share a few photos taken in stages over the past 6 months in setting up and maturing this 6ft tank. I’m doing so through both gratitude to the experienced members of this forum that gave me a few pointers and confidence along the way, and as a reassurance to...

It’s sad to see how things have devolved into such a sorry state. I hope things get better right now it only seems to be getting worse.

Tim deleted his account 🤷

I want to agree with you, but I can’t - fundamentally donations are not accounted for. The good will in the community is rightfully exhausted. This is a public issue and thank goodness it was brought to our attention; so I can stop my basically nothing donation each month 😅

And send us a link to where you got them!

As far as I can tell, we are still no closer to really confirming the situation about the donations? Outside of @Zeus. claiming they look fine, with Dan apparently handing the forum over, and exiting the scene? Cause this doesn't look suspect whatsoever. Are any of our members accountants...

Show us a picture!

Poor old Lib Dems left out again

Am I the only one confused by George farmer being a guest?

I completely agree. This is an issue for Moderators. It would have been best to stop the threads straight away and say moderators are going to resolve this and then inform us of the outcome.

You Can't Miss What You Can't Measure

I full breakdown has been sent active Moderators, please post in group chat in latest pm

I have a friend who has drilled one 120mm hole in one side of the Aqua One AquaSys 230 for filter tubing etc. They had no problems with the rigidity of the stand, therefore I believe you shouldn't have any issues drilling the two 80mm holes.

A suggestion: We all take a week away from this. This is taken off-line All current 'stakeholders' (administration, mods, founders, etc) get together in a zoom call and set up the UKAPS as a new society with clear governance structures. Email and online text is an awful communication tool in...

I know. But let's all take the air out of it. Some people have formed friendships on UKAPS - now arguing, displaying defensiveness, and escalating emotions. It is ruinous. Just stop posting and start talking. (Hmmmm, there is an irony created by me saying that! :D)

I’ll echo that.

https://www.ukaps.org/forum/threads/ukaps-has-passed-20-000-members.73764/#post-744069 Last I remember asking; I also asked privately.

I like this view - and then outcomes of that debate are published.

Well, from what I understand, Paolo quit after many years because he felt (and has) given so much to the forum that he needed hand up his gloves. Tim took over and then quit over his concern about transparency on the accounts. Question I have is whether Paolo has sight of the accounts as...

Perfect. I am going to try that out! Cheers, Michael

The problem with forums is that (unless deleted) that exact emotion at that exact time is stored for eternity. I hate being directive, but my view is that we should 'just stop'. And my view for the owners/moderators/seniors is to talk personally rather than posting every feeling. I am a...

This 👍🏻. Works really well with a small 500ml bottle. Just make sure you don’t leave the shrimp in too long as the decomposing food can cause a problem with the water quality inside the bottle. Left mine in for a day max in the past and they were ok

Well that's saved me several hours of my life, I'd just started sketching one out from first principles 🤣. Thank you!

Thanks, John and everyone - I'll do that tomorrow morning. Really appreciate the advice. What seems normal to you, is new to me!

@Tim Harrison you mean you're not going to click back on the forum to like this reply 🙄

Hello everyone. Alan Le here. Thanks to oreo57 for referring me to this site. To answer ops question. I suggest going with a custom dual stage regulator. You can sort out the parts on eBay. The system will run you about $250 to $350 depending on the deal you got. These regulators are precise...

It's late in the UK, very late in Asia, and late afternoon in the US. Let's just sleep on it, wake up tomorrow, and decide to post nothing negative. Anything that has to be said, well, set up Zoom and have it out. This is not the media or place for something so deep.

Plants, unlike humans have no concept of conforming to the rules. The plants are transitioning, at different rates, eventually all those leaves will wither, and sadly die.. Fear not, you can snip the leaf just above the rhizome and a new submersed leaf will develop.

OK, OK, OK. Ill chime in.

Sometimes show blackish tips and it's thought it's lack of CO2 , but looking at the picture this is probably the plant adapting.

What do you need help with?

I like the song.

You can make a shrimp trap out of a cut up plastic bottle. Cut the neck off and install in reverse. Lots of videos on youtube etc showing how.

It is just getting silly now. From the sublime to the ridiculous..... And people throwing toys out of the pram is never a good look.

Ffs guys. Can we have some decorum. Is this really how we want to be remembered 😭

Thanks for the ideas I think both will work but will obvious take quite a while. I was thinking perhaps a miniature shrimp trap ruse... If anyone make such a thing. Cheers, Michael

Thanks for the advice. I'll snip and see where it takes me. I was only confused, as the other plants (I bought three of the same) are not displaying the same issue,

Why don't we just stop talking on the forum, and those involved get on a conference call to hash it out and come back to everyone else?

A lot of this could be avoided Tim brought the issue up quite rightly and fairly reasonably Dan said he would respond with full transparency. So far so good but then two threads are flooded with members posts, Some JMO not helpful to the situation at all. My thinking is the staff moderaters...

I’ve always snipped it back but not into the good stuff. Normally new leaves replace the old, and those older leaves wither and pruned.

Imperfect ... but I like it! If the current team is able to resolve everything then perfect, if not, bring in new and capable people with fresh perspectives. Thats it! Not hard. Get it done! I am going to recluse myself from any further public discussions on the matter for the time being...

Yep, sounds like a re cap for Game of Thrones!

Do you take off just the dead bit, or go towards the root etc?

I think this ship has sailed.

Try using a fine Sieve/colander tied to fishing line. And place their fave food/treat item into it. Wait a few and lift them out into a bowl to sort them from.

That bit is dead mate

I don’t see it as doom and gloom, but I really want the forum to focus on the future, but first, let’s recap. Timeline - Paulo steps down Tim steps up Tim tried and failed to get financial info. Tim goes public, our donations are unaccounted for. Dan says all is good. Pitchforks are out...

:D At least you can say you have another reason. I 'literally' have to say that I want to watch the fish....... ........they looks I get could fill a book with 40 chapters.

Nope your not Alone - it serves a dual purpose as lets me check on dad when he ventures into the kitchen area looking for snacks etc.

Oh geez, I thought that it was just me who set up cameras to watch fish!! :D

This Pump has been Great and its sooo Quiet. very very good for the price paid. Its supercharged the UGF.

Pfft that will be fun to try and do. They don't stay still for long, as they zoom off into the back of the tank very quickly. Ill try and get a few shots of them when they come out in a group and squabble. I spend more time watching the tank on the nanny cam sometimes at work, than actually...

Geez, No... I only offered up to serve and help the forum to survive - in one capacity or another, be it with active participation perhaps in a moderator role (from my across-the-pond perspective), offer advice and/or finances - which definitely wont be in a position of power in any shape or...

Hi @Gill - I would love to see puffers when you get a moment!

This is moderate? This is helping? If the Cool Kids don't read the forum, and then come in guns a-blazing, exactly in what way is this "moderating"? Valid questions were raised by staff, and some members have stepped up try to help solve it. In theory that's how a Society works. How about...

This is absolutely insane, and well out of hand. As someone new to this forum, an outsider 'Joe Blogs' enthusiast who wants to learn, it is actually quite scary to read and watch the destruction that is taking place. Moreover, when this gets solved (and I am sure it will one way or another), we...

A Random Plant started to grow on one side of the tank that faces the patio doors. And it has grown very quickly. And became the main housing for all the cherry shrimp. It is a stem plant and I think it may be Guppy Grass, ill try and remember to get some pix of it during tomorrows water change...

I've no idea what's going to happen with the forum @LondonDragon but I'd like to say a big heart felt thank you to all the mods that have made it what it is over the last few years that I've frequented it. It's been a blast. 🫡

@ElleDee, Your BS detector is obviously working flawlessly! ... Totally agree! Cheers, Michael

You aren’t, really @castle No Michael, as I’ve just been informed you’re not neutral in this conversation with a potential promised role and I’m personally about to throw in the towel. Team are being executed out, very sad after all these years. Good luck mate, power to you buddy 😉

Welcome! :)

Ok, from the perspective of a mere mortal member such as myself, I am starting to get really confused... Can you or someone else please explain exactly what the practical role and duties of a "Global Moderator" on UKAPS entails ? and I will follow up with more comments and questions...

Did this not start with Tim quitting and alerting the entire forum to the accounts issue? And did Paolo not quit immediately before that? The team broke up before the rest of us got drafted into it. If this could have been resolved without the membership getting involved, why wasn't it? It...

It's called a clash of two personalities, that didn't need to end like this... and Dan has too much to deal with at the moment that a forum is the least of his priorities, one should be transparent the other should have discussed it with the team before making it public like this... Also there...

I've was on the Fore runner of this forum for many years before this was even started by George, Dan etc. From George starting out with tanks on TFF while in the RAF and his eventual career change to Aquascaping and more watching him start to write articles etc and get published on PFK. And have...

Hello All, I just noticed that one of my new Java fern plants on wood is experiencing this. It has only been in for seven days. Do you have any ideas about what that is and how to address it?

Injecting it, or protesting about it? :)

And yet the rumors seem un founded. Bank balance is healthy, so begs the question why is Dan being ousted?

I suspect it’s unlikely to be a tax evasion event, as the profits would have likely fallen under capital gains.

Folks it is amazing how blahblahblahblah storms start based off of rumours. I will note if I was this dan person i'd not want to deal with this garbage and walk away.

There is no deal. Has UKAPS funds been involved in tax evasion? Should be pretty simple to answer? If the answer isn’t categorically no, you’re in trouble. Whether new folks own it or not. Our community doesn’t need this regardless of who started this forum. The northerner in me has had enough...

Your just trying to upload a regular JPEG file, right? When you edit your post, try and use the "Attach file" button instead. Cheers, Michael

I commend @Zeus. for his proactive approach and willingness to step up - its called initiative! Karl got no interest in grabbing power or self serving interests... other than to provide for a smooth transition and uninterrupted service to our community. To be honest, I am surprised no one on...

Things happen very fast and I was available and considered trustworth, I stepped up in a time of need to save UKAPS anyone wishing to take over what I trying to then stand up and will step down. I made first contact which went very well We have deal which may be fragile ATM but a deal to make...

Just to confirm Zeus did involve us today [emoji1303]

@Geoffrey Rea, was the mod team working to resolve this behind the scenes?

No nothing was discussed with us

Just seen there is a PM from @Zeus. at 2pm today to be fair @simon_the_plant_nerd but reading after the fact… The forum has miraculously changed hands in a few hours apparently 🤷🏻‍♂️ Hadn’t checked in for a few hours, but decisions like this aren’t worth discussing?!? Who the hell assigned a...

This is getting worse and worse!

Just a little update!

The questions I posted were geared towards finding this information out. Disappointed to hear you’ve not been consulted.

Hell no. And if I’m going down in flames John stand fully behind Tim. This should never have been a community issue. Love UKAPS, but not this noise.

It's turned in to a mad house. I'm out too, I mean if I ever click on this forum again may god strike me down.

I'd assumed the Mods were involved in these discussions at some level. It's a sad day indeed if they weren't.

Sorry M8 it all happen vary fast and is still happening, I got a pm yesterday and fell down the rabbit hole, I am not after running or owning the server, purly here to help the transfer to member ownership.

I’ve been away for a number of years (did not have a tank) but one thing that has always struck me is the passion and friendship of this community. I hope things will improve and you get through this time. I’m sure you will and I thank all those who have done so much for us I’m sorry it has...

There is lots to sort and much to do and I've been at my PC for 7 hrs Small steps and we will get there guys

Astounded to log on and see this has all taken place, without any involvement from currently serving UKAPS staff 🤷🏻‍♂️ The folks that attend your events, run the site and maintain UKAPS in a continued fashion. Not to mention have relationship with the very sponsors that fund the site. Private...

I’ve thought about it, and I think I may have a problem with that. All things considered. 😄

I changed my vote to no for you as I didn’t want you to worry about it and I feel it probably doesn’t matter now anyway. 👍🏻

Could you please post a job description for “Community Leader” once you are able to. I expect that title means very different things to different people. Some other thoughts: How do you see the structure of the ‘society’ working from now on? Will you be assuming the role of chief executive or...

Perfect will continue running the fans 100% then.

Im trying to figure this out right now haha, im not sure why it wont work normally, I thought maybe the file size was too big so I tried a smaller size and still didn't change anything :confused:

@NathanB, The picture is not showing - try and upload it again. Cheers, Michael

Hi Everyone! This is my 90L 60x40x40 Cryptocoryne dominated aquascape. The tank is roughly 2-3 months old right now, things are progressing slowly but recently I have noticed lots of new growth! I'll get this journal started with this photo and post some updates in the near future. Any plant...

No. Cooler the LEDs the more efficient they are.

I dismantled mine at the weekend to get all my Cherries. It took me hours and hours and a teeny-tiny net. I missed a day's feed and got a lo lt of them when they came for a spirulina lolly, you could try something like that if you don't need to get all of them?

I forgot I wanted to ask, with them being 100% manual is there any reason other than noise not to run the fans at 100%?