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Journal Salty Fingers

When the tank is more mature I'm thinking of possibly keeping Blue Striped Pipefish as although they eat a lot of pods they are apparently much easier to train on frozen food as opposed to say... Dragonets.

Stunning fish, I have kept them before and found the opposite true compared to my mandarin and scooter blennies. I would say on par with most seahorses.

don't plan to inject CO2 and it's not a common practice in saltwater aquariums.

Interesting idea and I am sure the macroalgae would love it, the difficulty is that most saltwater corals etc like a high PH (8.4ish), especially stony corals with calcium based skeletons and CO2 would push this down

The tank is looking great, sorry about the losses :(
 
It's been a while since I kept them, but I wouldn't say easy, just easier :)

I know I had many different foods for them, and the easy reef masstick was always a popular choice, as well as adding live pods to the tank and sump every now and then. One thing that might make it easier for you is that you have a macroalgae tank, which should greatly increase pod populations and grazing opportunities for the fish.
 
@Courtneybst I done it over a 24hr period, search YouTube for ReefBuilders Mollie acclimation, that should return a good video about his method, I didn’t follow it exactly but it’s a good one.

It doesn’t have to be just chaeto for the pods, they can come on frag plugs and bits of rock.

Shame about the urchin as it would be a huge help. What about the blenny?
 
They seem like they'd be pushing it in terms of size (4-6"), considering this tank is only 60cm. But I like the Molly idea.
Yeah I think the mollies will be great.
As for the blenny, they’re not hugely active and you could employ one for a few weeks and rehome it after it’s done it’s job.
It’s not uncommon in reef keeping to employ the help of a certain species and then pass on or take back once the job is completed.
 
Thank you!

I don't plan to inject CO2 and it's not a common practice in saltwater aquariums. However, there is someone on Reef2Reef doing exactly that! I haven't read through the whole journal yet but it's interesting to say the least. We wouldn't get anywhere unless people experimented and pushed boundaries so I'm up for discussion.

This is the journal: Build Thread - Planted Tank with Seahorses
Oh nice! I actually read his fw tank journals over at plantedtank. I'm not surprised that he would be the one to try Co2 injection on his salt water tank lol.
 
When the tank is more mature I'm thinking of possibly keeping Blue Striped Pipefish as although they eat a lot of pods they are apparently much easier to train on frozen food as opposed to say... Dragonets.

I’ve got a female one of these in my EVO, Mrs Pipe, she goes by a couple of other monikers Widow Pipe (after her first male partner died mysteriously) and then Black Widow Pipe (because she killed the second male introduced even though he was receptive to her), she’ll have to remain a spinster!

She likes her live food, especially Copepods, she will take thawed frozen copepods at a push but I always feed some to her daily.

:)
 
I’ve got a female one of these in my EVO, Mrs Pipe, she goes by a couple of other monikers Widow Pipe (after her first male partner died mysteriously) and then Black Widow Pipe (because she killed the second male introduced even though he was receptive to her), she’ll have to remain a spinster!

She likes her live food, especially Copepods, she will take thawed frozen copepods at a push but I always feed some to her daily.

:)
I love the drama of this story 😅

Do you culture your own copepods or buy them? Ideally I'd like to minimise my reliance on going to the shop as much as possible but also don't want a very labour intensive culture. That's why the only live food my fish get are Grindal worms, White worms and Springtailspringtails because they are super easy.
 
I’ve cultured Copepods and Rotifers before but it takes dedication to keep it going. I just buy them now from MA, between 3 tanks they get 15 bags of Artemia and 10 bags of Copepods a week (was £25 a week) the File fishes in the bigger tanks look dejected if they get fed and live Artemia isn’t the first thing in the tank! I don’t expect these pods to survive or reproduce so the main point of feeding them is obviously to provide nutrient enrichment for fish that need them in their diet but also for the other fish that don’t require them to get enrichment by having something live to chase and eat (they have mouths big enough to eat frozen). If I want breeding stock of Copepods to culture then I’ll order from ReefPhyto.

I have Gammarus shrimp breeding in my quarantine tank that are sourced from bags bought from MA, there’s nothing to eat these (apart from Peeves the Pom Pom crab) in there at the moment, nice supply if somebody has to go in there. The only issue with Gammarus shrimp are that they eat the eggs of Berghia Nudibranch so don’t keep them together as you’ll never be able to reproduce enough Berghia to do any good with Aiptasia control, been down this road twice now and I’m sticking with True Aiptasia eating peppermint shrimp now (if only I could harvest their eggs to bring on my own supply of shrimp). The Gammarus are in the tanks to stay!

:)
 
I guess they were right.
I was told many times that nothing good in marine happens quickly, and it's true!

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I had a long, ugly battle with hair algae in this tank that I managed to resolve by lowering my lights from 100% (yes I know, I should know better 😅) to just 30%. I also started more regularly and accurately dosing phytoplankton and Tropica Specialised. Subsequently, the hair algae began weakening and what was once quite hard to get off, eventually started falling off quite easily. Now I'm happy to report there is ZERO visible nuisance algae. Even some of the more intricate species like blue ochtodes and red ogo that were smothered, (and I thought were toast) have recovered. It seems it's not exactly like plants in the sense that macroalgae can completely recover from an algae outbreak and the part that has been affected isn't down and out. Now every single blade, node and frilly bit is completely clean.
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One thing lowering the light has down is heavily slowed the growth of the macroalgae. I'm not mad at that, in fact it was quite useful because I could focus on getting the tank stable as opposed to trimming, and it also gave me time to focus on other projects. Now we're in a good place, I'm very very slowly increasing the light (currently on 40%) to see how high I can go without inducing a microalgae outbreak. After all, I do want it to grow somewhat!
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Urban Expansion
After fixing my phytoplankton dosing (10ml every other day) the pod population has exploded! There's also now a much greater variety of creatures going in and out of the holes in the rock, burying in the substrate and riding on the macroalgae. I've seen some creatures that I've never seen before, and I can feel the tank is maturing and becoming a rich ecosystem. There's even macroalgae growing, pods running around and mini fan worms popping in and out of the shells on the Trochus snails! They're like mini moving cities.
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I've switched from the mini glass lily pipes to some Aquario acrylic pipes because the hose was leaking at the point where the adapter was. Although I liked the idea of organic waste being sucked into the filter, the acrylic looks much more clean, the flow is stronger because it's just one piece of hose and I no longer have to worry about small creatures being sucked into it. I've also FINALLY installed double taps. I always don't install them initially thinking it will be fine and then instantly regret it. They're just so... bulky.

Uncouth
A few days ago I managed to capture video footage of a brittle star spawning event. Normally you hardly see them, just their tentacles poking out of macroalgae. But this day, one of them decided to venture out and do a full on tank tour, whilst releasing this milky white fluid everywhere. I've linked the video so you can see!


A perfect impulse
Lastly, after the mini horror show that was my Clownfish pair, I decided it was ok to add some new inhabitants. Well, I only added one - A little clown goby who now goes by the name of Yellowman (zunguzunguguguzunguzeng).
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Looking great @Courtneybst - glad you managed to defeat the hair algae - it looks like these macro algae tanks share a lot of similarities with planted tanks, if the light intensity was the issue.

I'm quite surprised at how fast those bristle stars move - don't they ever try and escape the tank, as I imagine climbing the glass isn't an issue for them?
 
Looking great @Courtneybst - glad you managed to defeat the hair algae - it looks like these macro algae tanks share a lot of similarities with planted tanks, if the light intensity was the issue.

I'm quite surprised at how fast those bristle stars move - don't they ever try and escape the tank, as I imagine climbing the glass isn't an issue for them?
Thanks mate!

Yeah it seems the the principals are the largely the same, and I think my brain almost wanted to go in thinking it was different, which is a mistake. Also apparently it's not a good idea to add macroalgae to immature systems. I think the topic has a lot of room for debate and discussion but maybe that would have saved me some headache? Glad I did do it this way though because now I've learnt the important lessons.

Yes, everything moves much quicker in saltwater I find 😅 even the snails! I've never seen the brittle stars try to get out. That's the most I've ever seen them venture, normally they are hidden away in the macroalgae.
 
Fanning the flames
I feel like since I started my marine tank, the local fish shops have 'unlocked' entirely like a video game and now I can make use of the whole shop! Previously I would look at the freshwater section, maybe peer at the saltwater but not really take any of it in, because I knew I couldn't keep it.
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Somehow last weekend, a trip to pickup tortillas for a BBQ became a trip to refill my CO2 canisters and also visit one of my LFS 👀.

What better way to beat the heat, than to buy yourself a literal fan? 😂
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Latest tank shot:
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On a visit to my local LFS they mentioned that there is a service that can deliver water on a weekly basis, do you think something like that would be appropriate now that you have been running this for a while? I am still tempted!
 
On a visit to my local LFS they mentioned that there is a service that can deliver water on a weekly basis, do you think something like that would be appropriate now that you have been running this for a while? I am still tempted!
Natural Sea Water supplier based in Croydon also offer that service, I’ve used them plenty and the service is really good. Just drop your containers outside and they’ll fill them up. You don’t even need to be there.
 
@Courtneybst how’s the clown goby? They’re little devils in my experience that may well begin to eat things you’d rather they wouldn’t.

If you could get hold of a Christmas tree rock for that tank you’d be amazed by it for sure.
 
On a visit to my local LFS they mentioned that there is a service that can deliver water on a weekly basis, do you think something like that would be appropriate now that you have been running this for a while? I am still tempted!
There is indeed the Natural Seawater place @seedoubleyou mentioned which would be much less labour intensive. However, I'm still using RO for a few reason.

Main reason being the cost. I was quoted £17.77 for 30L whereas it only costs me £4.30 to make 25L (including salt). Considering how infrequent water changes are, I could spend that money on other things...like plants! 😅

It also means being restricted to the parameters of the sea water which isn't helpful if you want something specific.

Maybe one day when lifting containers gets old, but for now it's keeping me strong.
@Courtneybst how’s the clown goby? They’re little devils in my experience that may well begin to eat things you’d rather they wouldn’t.

If you could get hold of a Christmas tree rock for that tank you’d be amazed by it for sure.
It's getting on ok, not visibly eating much and occasionally does look pale but is still active.

I went to ADC today and picked up some other foods for it to try. Fed it about 10 minutes ago and ironically it showed interest in the 'nano marine' food which I already had lol. It seemed to eat but also spit bits out so I just keep trying. It's probably still getting used to the environment. It looks more yellow again which is good.

What's a Christmas tree rock?
 
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