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Remanso . . .

Part of what I wanted for this tank, that I've admired in many others such as Tom's Bucket O' Mud, Tom's Poco Pozo, and @hitmanx's Celestial Swamp and others is some emersed growth. I think that the above water/below water planting adds a fantastic extra dimension and makes the scape look even more naturalistic, so I'm keen to have a play with the idea for the first time.

As with everything on this tank, I wanted it easy to maintain and adjust as needed, I also needed a system that could be hung on the tank (given there are no raised areas that breach the surface) and easily removed.

I saw these on Amazon that I think @Courtneybst first posted a link to in one of his threads:

Amazon product ASIN B097M74YLF
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Unfortunately the hanging lip on the back isn't wide enough for the 15mm glass on this tank, so I made up some little stainless brackets, which also get the pots a little lower in the water:

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I've drilled out the pots so I get good water circulation through them:

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Then I've lined them with this thin carbon impregnated fibre sheet. The carbon element isn't relevant, I just wanted some thin black woven material to act as a barrier and contain the soil.

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I've 3/4 filled them with some of the Shrimp King active soil, since it has no nutrients to leach, only beneficial acids, then put some plants in.

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I'd no solid idea what plants to use, so I've added a mixture to experiment with. I wanted some long grassy stems, so got some Eleocharis vivipara. I also wanted some fern - initially I was hoping to try and get hold of some Marsh Fern as its the only one I've read does well with wet roots, but it has the availability of rocking horse turd, so I've opted for a Maidenhair Fern. For the other plants I got some Ficus Pumila, Ludwigia Mini Super Red and Hydrocotyle Verticillata,

I was hoping, given that the plants were potted and grown emersed, planting them in my emersed pots wouldn't be too much of an issue. Unfortunately it looks like Horizon has stored them submerged, so a lot of the stems that would typically be quite rigid in an emersed pot, are quite soft now and can't support their own weight. Not an issue if I was planting submerged, but could be as they dry out and have to stand on their own. 🤷‍♀️

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Also try the various HYDROCOTYLE species they do great emersed and will spread into a thick matt of toots once they settle in. And send shoots everywhere

Any specific recommendations @Gill - I've added Hyrdocotyle Verticillata as mentioned above, but it might have more runner based growth, rather than bushy growth which might work better.
 
Tradescantia has done really well for me and you don't even need a pot or substrate, I liberated a small cutting from a shop (I was never paying £15 for tradescantia in this lifetime!) and balanced it on a piece of floating cork bark with the end in the tank water. It roots really fast and drapes over the side nicely.
 
Tradescantia has done really well for me and you don't even need a pot or substrate, I liberated a small cutting from a shop (I was never paying £15 for tradescantia in this lifetime!) and balanced it on a piece of floating cork bark with the end in the tank water. It roots really fast and drapes over the side nicely.
Thanks for the suggestion @Myrtle - my knowledge of terrestrial plants is close to zero, are you referring to this?:

 
The Innovitech X-Filter fleece roller is doing a really good job so far! The tank had a fair bit of initial clouding on first filling, from dust in the sand, but it got filtered out after about 3 days. It's nice not having to worry about cleaning pre-filter sponges:

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I also swapped out the rigid ribbed hose on the two active down-pipes for some more flexible silicone hose, so I can easily move the hoses out of position to remove the fleece roller. I think I just need to shorten them a little though as I seem to be getting air trapped in them resulting in some gurgling noise, particularly the full siphon drain on the bean animal set-up (the closest one in the image). The usual water level in the fleece roller compartment is currently putting the end of the hose about 100mm under the water so they can't purge the air fully during normal flow. If I shorten them so they're about 30-40mm below the surface, hopefully all the air should get blown out making them silent.

I am encountering a couple of technical issues though that I need to find solutions for.

Firstly the ATO tank (shown on the left of the image above) doesn't seem to be filling with fresh water. I basically have this currently set up with a Y-splitter on one of the fresh water inlets into the sump. The idea being that during water change, fresh RO will flow jointly into the ATO tank, and the sump, with the ATO tank stopping once its full due to the float valve installed inside it. Unfortunately though there appears to be more resistance on the inlet to the valve than the simple open piping into the sump, so the water is taking the path of least resistance and the ATO tank isn't filling at all. I have a few ideas to try and fix it. The simplest would be an electronic ball valve on a timer (as I have on the RO unit) to direct the water to the ATO tank for a short period, and then divert to the sump for the remainder. That's not quite as self regulating as I would have liked though, so I might see if I can adapt one of the back pressure release valves that RO units have. Any ideas welcome if anyone has any suggestions?

My second issue is on the waste water tank in the fish room (pic earlier in this thread). So this is set up similarly to the ATO tank in that is has a float valve on the inlet inside the tank. Once the tank is full with the waste water the float valve closes the inlet so the tank can't overfill. The problem is that the Kamoer peristaltic pump transfer volume must slightly mis-aligned with the tank volume, and still keeps trying to pump water though after the valve is closed. This generates a lot of back pressure resulting in the Kamoer making a horrible screeching noise that can't be at all good for it, and then blowing the tubing off the hose barb causing water to flood everywhere. Luckily I saw it happen to stopped the pump straight away. I clearly didn't think this element through well enough, and didn't consider the pressure a peristaltic can generate. The Kamoer does come with a fill level sensor for the waste tank, so I need to get that set up properly, but I may need to install an overflow as a backup on the waste tank and dispense with the float valve. Again, any suggestions welcome?!
 
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I would also recommend creeping jenny. Its a great pond marginal. And comes in a few colours now. Standard green and apple green i have used and they do great. All you need is a bit with an aerial root to do best. and just chuck in it the pots you have resting on the waters edge and it will start creeping out quickly.
Also Marsh marigold is another great plant to use.
 
I would also recommend creeping jenny. Its a great pond marginal. And comes in a few colours now. Standard green and apple green i have used and they do great. All you need is a bit with an aerial root to do best. and just chuck in it the pots you have resting on the waters edge and it will start creeping out quickly.
Also Marsh marigold is another great plant to use.

Thanks Gill, fired in an order on eBay for some of those and a couple of other marginal pond plants in the hopes they'll fair better than the current ones are.
 
Hi all,
Now how on earth did this monstrosity get there?!
It is a Daddy long legs spider (Pholcus phalangioides) <"Daddy long legs spider">, they only live in houses.
And how the hell am I going to get it off!
Carefully in a cupped hand? I usually repatriate ours to one of the bathrooms.

When you approach it she will start vibrating her body, but you can just ignore that.

cheers Darrel
 
About 15 years ago, I had a really blocked, and I mean really blocked nose, but just one side.

I tried to unblock it, but it persisted, this discomfort may have been what woke me up. I had a shower, and I guess the heat helped dislodge whatever was up there.

Getting out of the shower, guided by curiosity I blocked my functioning nostril with the knuckle of a finger and blew air down and into and out of my blocked nostril; into the sink.

In a pool of snot and congealed blood was a very obviously lost, long dead, daddy long legs. Biggest one is ever seen, or its body absorbed some moisture from my nose.

Just figure you’d like to know they can, and do climb into your nose while you’re sleeping.
 
About 15 years ago, I had a really blocked, and I mean really blocked nose, but just one side.

I tried to unblock it, but it persisted, this discomfort may have been what woke me up. I had a shower, and I guess the heat helped dislodge whatever was up there.

Getting out of the shower, guided by curiosity I blocked my functioning nostril with the knuckle of a finger and blew air down and into and out of my blocked nostril; into the sink.

In a pool of snot and congealed blood was a very obviously lost, long dead, daddy long legs. Biggest one is ever seen, or its body absorbed some moisture from my nose.

Just figure you’d like to know they can, and do climb into your nose while you’re sleeping.
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Giant arachnid successfully removed with 12ft piece of paper!

DOOA Terra tape applied to wick up some water, and mosses tied on over the top:

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No idea if it’s going to cope being open to the indoor elements or not, and equally not sure if I like the tree moss randomly stuck in to other moss bed, but as with many things with this tank it’s going to be a case of “suck it and see”!
 
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Just figure you’d like to know they can, and do climb into your nose while you’re sleeping.
That was unfortunate, as the myth that we apparently eat 8 spiders per year in our sleep is just that...a myth. Spiders do not crawl into our mouths - even into those of mouth breathers.
 
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Giant arachnid successfully removed with 12ft piece of paper!

DOOA Terra tape applied to wick up some water, and mosses tied on over the top:

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No idea if it’s going to cope being open to the indoor elements or not, and equally not sure if I like the tree moss randomly stuck in to other moss bed, but as with many things with this tank it’s going to be a case of “suck it and see”!
If you mist it regularly it can. I have a rain system and a fogger to keep my emersed grow moist. Rain every 3hr 1min and fog every half hour 2 min but the again I also grow aquatic moss above the water line..,
 
If you mist it regularly it can. I have a rain system and a fogger to keep my emersed grow moist. Rain every 3hr 1min and fog every half hour 2 min but the again I also grow aquatic moss above the water line.., //emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji849.png

I do keep misting it with some RO, and all but the Tree moss seems to be doing okay so far. The other moss is tied directly onto the Terra tape anyway which constantly wicks water beneath the moss, so that may be helping maintain some internal humidity.

I’d be interested to see how you’ve set up the rain and misting systems though, is it in one of your threads? I did think of setting up something similar myself with a little USB pump but minimising the intrusive look of it has been an obstacle so far.

On @Gill ’s recommendation I did buy a few pond type plants for the emersed planters:

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From left to right; Umbrella Grass (Cyperus alternifolious), Green Creeping Jenny, Dwarf Horsetail and Marsh Marigold.

Some of these may prove to be too large for the planters (such as the Cyperus) as they can get to 1m tall apparently, but again, a bit of experimentation and easy to pull out if need be. I also split a portion of Baby tears amongst all the pots, so that may spread and burst of out the pots at some point hopefully, hiding the edges of the pots. I also added the fourth pots in, as I had so many plants.

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I have the seedling of a plan in my head now of building in a mini platform along the back of the tank for the Creeping Jenny and others to spread out along and populate to try and make the entire back edge of the tank look more like the edge of the river bank, so more to follow . . .
 
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