Beautiful plants I agree, yet far from what we are talking here. Here, I am attaching the description of those pictures. That's a low tech tank. Why would anyone dose EI or similar levels of ferts in a low tech with no CO2 injection? Aren't we implying high tech when we are referring to "lean dosing" ? Just saying.Hi @Hanuman, Well, come on now, I never implied I was convinced by the talking and the recipes... Just to give you an example of what I find compelling:
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From Sudipta's intro post
I am also attaching pictures of all 4 of my current non-CO2 supplemented tanks with similar parameters (largest and the oldest one is 20 gal tank, running since June 16, 2019 and that's the one I primarily presented at TPT). Couple of the plants in the last tank shown here are still under trial and I am not sure if they will survive long term in this environment. I did eventually post the pictures of other tanks in the comment section but unfortunately can't access them anymore. I also provided more details about algae in the comments which is also lost (yes I do get algae in my tanks but I have found that it is relatively easy to tackle them in my non-CO2 systems compared to an imbalanced pressurized CO2 injected tank, so yes I do have a high-tech tank). Although I briefly mentioned about importance of lower temperature (low 70F, 70-74F in my non-CO2 injected tanks but it is certainly possible to get good results at elevated temperatures of 80F or even slightly higher.
That's great and I wish success in your testing. My comment were not aimed as an attack to you but to the wider audience.Yup same here! And that is why I have taken the open-minded approach and made the plunge to try it out myself to see if I can replicate the results to a satisfying extent in one of my tanks. For me personally, that's the final arbiter - and not what the nay-sayers and opponents, who demands all the hard evidence (without an inclination to try it out for themselves), is writing on an Internet forum.
If I can grow more challenging stem-plants in my tanks by making a few tweaks here and there and sort out the wheat from the chaff in terms of what actually makes a difference then I have made progress and that is the only thing that matters to me. I couldn't really care less what label we put on the approach, whether its new or old or whomever came up with the idea or how far behind its trailing... all that is just argumentative vanity in my opinion.
That's it. That's all, specially with all those recipes being thrown around by a someone whose background is pretty much unknown to the public. He also commented (and then deleted it) in his last post that he didn't have time to make a journal.... I find that pretty insulting to anyone following his recipes. You shouldn't be giving people advise if you can't show what you are advising long term. There are literally thousands and thousands of tanks using the opposite regime, so why not with lean dosing on high tech with a diversity of plants in today's standards? Just asking questions.Well, what are we arguing then? That is what I sometimes wonder... In one breath we are asking for large scale evidence over time to prove the viability
EDIT: I realized I talked too fast. That part was not deleted. Yet it is always good to accompany ones word with action, else no much point. He claims he has carried out experiments but reality is I would like to see actual tank pictures through time. Not just some random zoomed picture of a plant. At the end of the day we are talking aquascaping here, not underground experimentation.
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