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IFC Aquarium Fertilizer Calculator

Zeus.

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Thank you for your kind words and great to hear you find it useful 😁
1-What should be the pH value of our all-in-one fertilization?
if you add the ascorbic acid and potassium sorbate to the water first it should reach its optimum pH with it being a weal acid I think its will be about 5pH 😬 @X3NiTH or @dw1305 will correct me if the 5pH is incorrect. But I have never taken the pH of my ferts I just add the ascorbic acid- potassium sorbate
2- How should the mixing order be?

I don't think it matters for Macros, AIO and Micros (when using a premixed micro mix) @X3NiTH will correct me if wrong
When making a DIY trace solutions there is an order which is on the bottom of the DIY Trace page(if you are on latest release)
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dw1305

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Hi all,
But I have never taken the pH of my ferts I just add the ascorbic acid- potassium sorbate
optimum pH with it being a weak acid I think its will be about 5pH
As long as it is well below pH7, then it is pretty much irrelevant even if it is down to pH3, once it is added to the tank you have the dilution effect of the tank water.

cheers Darrel
 

mrtank50

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Thank you for your kind words and great to hear you find it useful 😁

if you add the ascorbic acid and potassium sorbate to the water first it should reach its optimum pH with it being a weal acid I think its will be about 5pH 😬 @X3NiTH or @dw1305 will correct me if the 5pH is incorrect. But I have never taken the pH of my ferts I just add the ascorbic acid- potassium sorbate


I don't think it matters for Macros, AIO and Micros (when using a premixed micro mix) @X3NiTH will correct me if wrong
When making a DIY trace solutions there is an order which is on the bottom of the DIY Trace page(if you are on latest release)
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My tank ph is between 5-5.5.

The pH of the fertilizer I make drops down to 2.
I was wondering if it was limiting some things. Because it drops too much.
 

Hanuman

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Here are PH tests I carried out a year ago.
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@Zeus. With Ascorbic Acid PH should go down to 2.5 prior adding any compound.
It's basically the Fe that ends up bringing PH up, hence why it's best to use higher concentration Fe. In that test I used 7% Fe.

But as @dw1305 said it is pretty much irrelevant.

NOTE to noob reading this. This was merely a test to understand and experiment on PH levels. Don't go around buying those acids. As you can see Ascorbic Acid pretty much does the job.
 
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Hanuman

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The pH of the fertilizer I make drops down to 2.
I was wondering if it was limiting some things. Because it drops too much.
It's normal and expected. That 's the point of adding the Ascorbic Acid so that compounds remain stable and don't interact between each other. Once you add the fertilizer in your tank it will dilute to the point that PH of the fertilizer is pretty much irrelevant.
 

lidz87

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hi all. having trouble with this. when i open the file (tried on both my pc's) I'm greeted with 'excel found unreadable content in ifc-fert-cal-v1.09br do you want to recover the contents of this workbook? if you trust this workbook, click yes'

after clicking yes the program opens but does not work properly. it allows me to enter tank volumes etc but when trying to run the target calculator 'which one' (item 2) the drop down box is blank. then the program crashes.

I'm guessing nobody here is a computer expert but wasn't sure if it had actually become corrupt on here?

I'm using Microsoft excel 2007.

cheers
Martyn
 

Zeus.

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Sorry about the need for another update so soon - the SO4 ppms reported for the various hydrates of Mg SO4: xH2O and CaSO4: xH2O was incorrect :oops:. The Ca, Mg and GH was correct.
Thanks goes to @Happi for spotting the error :clap:
 

aquariumshed

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Hi Everyone
Shameless plug, but I've created a video about this calculator with the kind permission and support of Zeus and Hanuman. Thanks, guys!!

I imagine it won't be quite as useful to more experienced forum members since I've tried to simplify the calculator to make it fairly beginner-friendly (I hope!), but thought it was worth sharing and should be a useful resource for new people exploring dry salts for the first time.
Cheers!

Video here:
 

Zeus.

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Hi everyone. Shameless plug, but I've created a video about this calculator with the kind permission and support of Zeus and Hanuman. Thanks guys!!

I imagine it won't be quite as useful to more experienced forum members since I've tried to simplify the calculator to make it fairly beginner friendly (I hope!), but thought it was worth sharing and should be a useful resource for new people exploring dry salts for the first time. Cheers!

Video here:

Very nice overview of what can be a fairly complex/confusing process, any thing that helps folk start the DIY route is an asset to the hobby - well done :thumbup:
 

aquariumshed

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Very nice overview of what can be a fairly complex/confusing process, any thing that helps folk start the DIY route is an asset to the hobby - well done :thumbup:
Thanks so much, really happy to help in any way I can. So pleased with how everything is going since switching to dry salts. Can't believe I didn't switch sooner! 👍
 

swyftfeet

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Thanks so much, really happy to help in any way I can. So pleased with how everything is going since switching to dry salts. Can't believe I didn't switch sooner! 👍
Dry salts were my first go. I had a little difficulty with the IFC calculator. So I went with what the website from the supplier suggested for weights Post 79 in my journal. Some of the NPK precipitated on me and I was a bit miffed.

I am a very visual learner, your video helped a lot. Im gonna give it a go on the next round, so thank you!
 

Aleman

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Well hello all, I'm the noob :D Have had a 30 year gap from keeping fish, and I took a little bit of time planning my planted tank, having never had much luck with plants in the past, although I grow algae really well 😭. I'm not "new" to water chemistry, as I am a dedicated beer craft brewer, and have advised on water treatment to several fora and commercial microbreweries. I found this place from the Barre Report, and used the Rotala Butterfly calculator to determine my EI dosing levels, then I saw a post from Zeus about the IFC calculator, and here I am :D

From my "Noob" perspective the calculator is pretty easy to use, and, ATM, to my eye, looks damned accurate ... or perhaps I should say, agrees with Rotala Butterfly, and the great thing about the IFC is that I can use it to determine GH/KH levels for remineralising my RODI water.

However I do have a small request, would it be possible to add di potassium phosphate to the calculator?

Keep up the good work :D
 

Hanuman

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Gald the calculator has been of use.
@Zeus. is also working on a specific RemiCalculator sheet for the IFC calculator but he has been busy lately. Once he is done it, it will be my turn to sprinkle some magic powder on it. This said the "BespokeRemi (R)" option in the TargetCalculator can be used as a proxy for that in the meantime.
However I do have a small request, would it be possible to add di potassium phosphate to the calculator?
Well there is Monopotassium Phosphate (also known as monobasic potassium phosphate) already in the calculator. Isn't that what you want?
 
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