Filter Porn - ADA Superjet

[Dutch]

ES 600 was a bit too much flow for me on an ADA 60H - though mine is 60x30x45

Depends on what you’re going for; I also used the spin return and yeah, cool.

Thanks for the replies! So with the spin pipe you could reduce the flow levels to an acceptable level? The 60h tank is 40 liters bigger than the 60x30x45 .. from your experience would that be big enough to have an acceptable flow without the spin pipes? Thanks!

 

[Dutch]

I would love to have one on a full ada set up with a glass stand they are so amazing looking but as it stands now I have a waterbox aquarium, knock off pipes, a chihiros light and eheim classic filter...

One can dream though..

Yes! But the glass stands seem only available for the “standard” P aquariums. Most of the fancy ada equipment don’t fit my H version. So I’m scraping the internet for a suitable table or stand that can hold the weight… the only thing I can find which looks techy are steel butcher / kitchen stands. Big difference in price without the Ada name on it. But there are stickers 😉

 

[Dutch]

Yes! But the glass stands seem only available for the “standard” P aquariums. Most of the fancy ada equipment don’t fit my H version. So I’m scraping the internet for a suitable table or stand that can hold the weight… the only thing I can find which looks techy are steel butcher / kitchen stands. Big difference in price without the Ada name on it. But there are stickers 😉

 

[Aqua sobriquet]

You can buy (or make your own) Aluminium Profile stands.

48" Fish Tank Stands - Fish Tank Stands - Product Ranges

www.aluminium-profile.co.uk

 

[_Maq_]

Never had one, but from what I can tell, you're paying for the build quality, additional extras (ADA lily pipe set, ADA Clear hosing, ADA Bio Rio media, ADA Spring washer etc) and the fact that especially outside of Japan - ADA is a premium brand. Some will see the value - some won't.

I can sense a good deal of snobbery and consumerism in that. "Hey, ADA, get me a stylish piece of furniture - interior decoration. ... Eh, biology? What biology?"
I am not comfortable with this current in our hobby, and this is not what I'm seeking for in a place like UKAPS.

 

[FrozenShivers]

I can sense a good deal of snobbery and consumerism in that. "Hey, ADA, get me a stylish piece of furniture - interior decoration. ... Eh, biology? What biology?"
I am not comfortable with this current in our hobby, and this is not what I'm seeking for in a place like UKAPS.

More choice is a good thing, no? Every hobby I'm a part of has a sub-section which is elitist/snobby etc, that's a human flaw as opposed to an inanimate object flaw. From what I can tell, our hobby is rife with misinformation/dubious scientific claims for us to buy into, I agree this is not a good thing but it seems like many others are doing it also sadly.

 

[dw1305]

Hi all,

More choice is a good thing, no? Every hobby I'm a part of has a sub-section which is elitist/snobby etc, that's a human flaw as opposed to an inanimate object flaw.

I think so. I've got <"no interest in aesthetics"> (or designer labels), but I can see why people might like an ADA Superjet filter and be <"willing to pay a premium"> for a shiny, stainless steel <"pump in a bucket">.

I think we have to remain <"a broad church">, we can have differences about what we think is important, but we need to realise that our views may not always coincide with other forum members.

I am not comfortable with this current in our hobby, and this is not what I'm seeking for in a place like UKAPS.

I'm not personally going to buy an <"ADA Superjet filter">, but if somebody gave me one? <"I'd use it">, I like the <"simple design & iwaki pump"> and I can see it is a thing of beauty.

cheers Darrel

 

[Wookii]

this is not what I'm seeking for in a place like UKAPS.

I'd personally never buy an ADA Superjet, not least because it doesn't contain a number of features I'd look for in a canister filter, but UKAPS is a very diverse collection of different people, with very wide ranging preferences, opinions and objectives - and personally that's exactly what I'm seeking in a place like UKAPS.

 

[Ed Wiser]

There are a ton on knockoff versions out there now of the canister. If cost is an issue for some. The noise is always about how you have a filter sitting in the stand.
I can tell you the iwaki pump on the 1200es is a beast of a pump. As I have ran iwaki pumps for years on reef tanks.

 

[Qwedfg]

I think whether or not you would buy a superjet it’s important stuff like that exists for the health of the hobby as a whole. At least here in the US there is not a lot of interest in planted tanks…especially when compared to reef tanks. A big part of driving interest in a hobby is companies investing in advertisement, putting on conventions and other attention garnering events but they will only do this if they can make a profit.

Like it or not ADA has really been in the drivers seat of developing interest in the hobby world wide and through doing so has made the availability of other products like plants and fish more wide spread even though they were not directly involved in that side of the hobby.

On this side of the pond theres huge amounts of interest being driven by companies innovating new products or creating “luxury” items (all items involved with aquariums are technically a luxury but you get the idea) for reef tanks. This visibility brings more people into the hobby which allows lfs to survive and has made coral available to the average person even in my backwater part of the country. Compare that to plant availability and it’s like night and day even though you can get tissue culture plants that require no special care and corals take 1000s of dollars of investment to keep in your shop. In my case I can’t even find plants locally and need to order everything online.

So this is a long way to say that companies like ADA making a “luxury” item like the super jet is a net positive for the hobby which drives interest and brings new people in which makes everything better for everyone from the average hobbiest not interested in ada products to the lfs who sell fish and plants and maybe even ADA equipment.

Additionally who wouldn’t want a sexy filter in their living room!

 

[VarunA]

I have always had an eye on ADA equipment back from my university days and finally managed to be in a position to afford some of them. It is pretty hard to get ADA equipment here in Canada, but I managed to source mine from trips to the USA. I currently have an ES300 V2, ES600 (on a 90P) and an ES1200 that is waiting in box to be replaced on the 90p. Personally I have only used eheim 2215 filters in the past and I can definitively say that the ES600 pulls much better than the 2215 as it gets clogged. You hardly notice any difference in flow with the ES600 even after 1.5 months post maintenance. Yes! it doesn't mean that you can avoid maintenance... by 1.5months, the glass pipes start to grow BBA and there is green algae in the tubes. I think a ES600 should suffice your purpose on the 60H. I wouldn't bother with the ES900 on that size of a tank unless you plan on upgrading in the future.

 

[_Maq_]

UKAPS is a very diverse collection of different people, with very wide ranging preferences, opinions and objectives - and personally that's exactly what I'm seeking in a place like UKAPS.

I haven't suggested in the least that UKAPS should restrict ADA filters or whatsoever from open discussion. I've only expressed my opinion that ADA promotes our hobby in a direction which does not make me particularly happy, and that there are other fields which I (personally) find more interesting.

Additionally who wouldn’t want a sexy filter in their living room!

If you like beer, it does not mean that you want a sexy brewery in your living room. I mean, I expect a filter (or any piece of technology) to fulfill its purpose, rather than to display. Nobody's getting aquarium to display a fancy stainless filter but the other way round, I suppose.
It's a tank which matters. And I expect the technical stuff to disturb my view as little as possible.
Actually, it's yet another point that annoys me most. People blindly believe the marketing buzz and purchase or build expensive and monstrous filters even in cases which are far from necessary - which is most planted tanks.

 

[Qwedfg]

If you like beer, it does not mean that you want a sexy brewery in your living room.

I would absolutely take a sexy whiskey pot still in my living room and I don’t care what my wife has to say about it!

 

[dw1305]

Hi all,

I mean, I expect a filter (or any piece of technology) to fulfill its purpose, rather than to display ..... Actually, it's yet another point that annoys me most. People blindly believe the marketing buzz and purchase or build expensive and monstrous filters even in cases which are far from necessary - which is most planted tanks

As I've said in other posts <"I'm deeply cynical"> (with traditional apologies to @Miss-Pepper ) about the products and advice offered by the "Aquarium Industry" and I'm pretty sure that their business model aims to keep aquarists constantly staggering from disaster (perceived or real) to disaster, just so that they can <"sell them a product">.

I may have a <"business opportunity"> for you.

cheers Darrel

 

[Wookii]

If you like beer, it does not mean that you want a sexy brewery in your living room.

“Au contraire” 😂

 

[Dutch]

I have always had an eye on ADA equipment back from my university days and finally managed to be in a position to afford some of them. It is pretty hard to get ADA equipment here in Canada, but I managed to source mine from trips to the USA. I currently have an ES300 V2, ES600 (on a 90P) and an ES1200 that is waiting in box to be replaced on the 90p. Personally I have only used eheim 2215 filters in the past and I can definitively say that the ES600 pulls much better than the 2215 as it gets clogged. You hardly notice any difference in flow with the ES600 even after 1.5 months post maintenance. Yes! it doesn't mean that you can avoid maintenance... by 1.5months, the glass pipes start to grow BBA and there is green algae in the tubes. I think a ES600 should suffice your purpose on the 60H. I wouldn't bother with the ES900 on that size of a tank unless you plan on upgrading in the future.

Thanks for the reply! The 600 it will be 🙂 will keep you updated once the filter is installed. A lot of discussion is going on on whether it’s worth it and what this forum should be about. Well I’m new to the hobby and learned about it by reading about the father of the aquascape hobby Takashi Amano. So in that sense I believe him , and so his products, do make the hobby more popular. The reason I purchase it is because of the quality (read it will last a lifetime) performance, and i have to admit the looks. Can’t argue this looks way better than all the plastic filters out there 🙂

 

[_Maq_]

reading about the father of the aquascape hobby Takashi Amano. So in that sense I believe him

So I suppose you're in using activated carbon for the main filter media?

 

[VarunA]

From the newest version of the manual in the ADA superjet, they stopped supplying the ES600 with anthracite (the new stock from Japan). Instead, it now comes with Bio Rio G (their version of ceramic media).
But regardless, I did use anthracite with my ES300 when I set up one of my tanks. It does indeed help with leeching out a lot of tannins and other organic matter during the early period of an aquarium. For my 90p and ES600, I ended up not using any of the anthracite and instead just set it up with Bio Rio + API active carbon alongside a dark start to cut down my water change frequency and establish the tank quickly without the big algae breakout period. I am very happy with the method as it helped me cut down the pain points associated with the original ADA tank start method (water changes every day/other day -> twice/week --> once per week)

 

[Le duke]

If you’re going to pay that amount of money for a filter, it should come with an adjustable rate DC pump.

Iwaki makes a nice pump but they are m inefficient compared to DC pumps and, as stated, not adjustable.


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[Ed Wiser]

If you’re going to pay that amount of money for a filter, it should come with an adjustable rate DC pump.

Iwaki makes a nice pump but they are m inefficient compared to DC pumps and, as stated, not adjustable.


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The pumps are picked for the Aquarium they are made for. I have 120p so I have the 1200es.