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Experiment: Finding optimal conditions for growing aquarium plants 2

Marcel G

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Chapter 2: Growing plants with lean fertilisation in the water column

Introduction


See Chapter 1 for an introduction and more general information about this experiment.
More detailed information and further experiments can be found [if interested] on my website: golias.net/akvaristika/.

Plants

In this experiment I decided to use the following emersion plants (i.e. plants grown in a greenhouse):
  • Alternanthera reineckii 'Mini'
  • Ammannia pedicellata 'Gold' (formerly known as Nesaea sp. Gold)
  • Hygrophila corymbosa
  • Rotala wallichii & Rotala sp. 'Vietnam'
Diagram of plant placement in individual aquariums ↓

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Picture of the fifth aquarium (few days old) ↓

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Light

Lighting interval:
8h/day
Light intensity (PAR) in individual aquariums: 100-230 µM/m2·s (bottom to top)

Substrate

While in the first set (aquaria #1 to #4) a soil substrate was used, in the second set (aquaria #5 to #8) no substrate was used.

1st set → nutrient-rich substrate

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  • I used the ADA Aquasoil Amazonia substrate (in powder version), which I soaked in tap water for two weeks before starting the experiment.
2nd set → no substrate

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  • In aquariums with no substrate, I used M16 stainless steel hex nuts inserted into small size (2") hydroponic net pots to anchor (secure) the plants.
Water

Note: The recipes below were prepared using pure (demineralized/deionized) reverse osmosis water.

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  • Water flow ensured by a surface skimmer (Jingye JY-350)
    • no filtration used
  • Water changes done once a week (with 50% of the water changed) with macro-nutrients replenishment
  • Micro-nutrientsadded every other day
    • Weekly amount of microelements (divided into three doses):
      • Fe/DTPA = 0.04 ppm (+ 0.02 ppm Fe/gluconate)
      • Mn/DTPA = 0.02 ppm
      • B = 0.01 ppm
      • Zn/DTPA = 0.006 ppm
      • Cu/DTPA = 0.002 ppm
      • Co/DTPA = 0.00002 ppm
      • Mo = not added
  • Carbon dioxide:
    • Extra CO₂ added to aquaria #1, #3, #5 and #7 using a simple glass diffuser, the function and parameters of which are described in more detail in a separate article
      • CO₂ concentration in these aquaria: ~11 ppm
    • No extra CO₂added to aquaria #2, #4, #6 and #8
      • CO₂ concentration in these aquaria: ~4 ppm
    • CO₂ concentration measured by Carbon Dioxide Chemical Test Kit (Hanna HI3818), which should give similar results to a professional CO₂ meter (OxyGuard) → see 2hraquarist.com.
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    • Hanna CO2 chemical test kit HI3818
Documentation

planting: 2024-12-18

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week #1: 2024-12-21

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week #2: 2024-12-28

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week #3: 2025-01-04

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  • Some fully grown or dying plants have been removed (so you may not see them in the following pictures).
week #4: 2025-01-10

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week #5: 2025-01-18

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To be continued ...
 
Documentation

Details

Week #3: 2025-01-04


Aquarium #1

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Aquarium #2

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Aquarium #3

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Aquarium #4

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Aquarium #5

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Aquarium #6

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Aquarium #7

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Aquarium #8

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To be continued ...
 
Documentation

Details

Week #4: 2025-01-10

Alternanthera reineckii 'Mini'


Aquarium #1

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Aquarium #3

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Aquarium #5

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To be continued ...
 
Documentation

Details

Week #4: 2025-01-10

Rotala sp. 'Vietnam' (R. wallichii)

  • plants with green stems and red leaves are Rotala wallichii
  • plants with red stems and green leaves are Rotala sp. 'Vietnam'
Aquarium #2

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Aquarium #4

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Aquarium #5

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Aquarium #6

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Aquarium #8

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To be continued ...
 
Documentation

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Week #5: 2025-01-18

Ammannia pedicellata 'Gold'


Aquarium #1

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Aquarium #2

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Aquarium #3

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Aquarium #4

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Aquarium #5

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Aquarium #6


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Aquarium #7

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Aquarium #8

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To be continued ...
 
Documentation

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Week #5: 2025-01-18


Aquarium #1

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Aquarium #2

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Aquarium #3

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Aquarium #4

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Aquarium #5

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Aquarium #6

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Aquarium #7

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Aquarium #8

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To be continued ...
 
Documentation

Details

Week #5: 2025-01-18

Dropchecker


Aquarium #1 → 11.0 ppm CO2

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Aquarium #3 → 13.5 ppm CO2 (outlier)

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Aquarium #5 → 11.5 ppm CO2

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Aquarium #7 → 11.0 ppm CO2

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To be continued ...
 
Results

The following data is a brief description of the visual condition of the plants in each aquarium (1 to 8). Green indicates best condition, blue indicates good condition and red indicates fair condition.

Alternanthera reineckii 'Mini'

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Ammannia pedicellata 'Gold'

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Hygrophila corymbosa

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Rotala sp. 'Vietnam' (R. wallichii)

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To be continued ...
 
Evaluation
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Probable characteristics:

Alternanthera reineckii 'Mini'

The results of this plant seem ambiguous to me. Further tests are definitely needed to verify the following characteristics.
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Ammannia pedicellata 'Gold'
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Hygrophila corymbosa

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Rotala sp. 'Vietnam'

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[End of the record]
 
NOTICE: Given my severely limited ability to communicate with others via social media in today's world in a way that is mutually agreeable and does not lead to conflict (I've tried many times and always failed), I prefer not to participate in any online discussion. If you have any questions or would like to discuss other matters with me, please use the mail channel: golias.net/akvaristika/contact.php.
 
Hi all,
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That looks a pretty conclusive result.
I prefer not to participate in any online discussion
Point taken, I'll still post these observations here for other users, as I think they may be of interest.

I found the root growth in the hydroponically grown plants enlightening. I've often told people that there aren't any plants <"that are strictly root feeders">, but this really reinforces that view.
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Last one, I also am interested in the cyanobacteria, I wouldn't have expected it in the tanks without any substrate, but this strongly suggests that dissolved organic matter (from the substrate) is irrelevant.
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cheers Darrel
 
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Dear Marcel,

Thank you for sharing the results of your experiments. As always, I find them both fascinating and inspiring. I was particularly struck by Setup #7, where you used no soil—only liquid fertilizers—combined with low KH, added CO2, and a low pH. My own setup is quite similar, maintaining a pH of 5–5.5 and a KH of 0–0.5, though I use silica sand as the substrate.

Your findings are an exciting confirmation that aquatic plants can thrive without nutrient-rich soil, provided they receive the necessary nutrients in liquid form. This aligns closely with some of our own observations and parallels the work of other members conducting similar experiments. The similarities in water parameters and fertilization between my setup and Setup #7 make this especially intriguing.

For additional insights from our work, you can explore these links to see how they align with your Setup #7:


Some pictures from my project can be found here: My Project Album.

Additionally, I’d like to share a few observations:
When potassium (K) levels exceeded calcium (Ca) and magnesium (Mg), I noticed frequent Mg deficiency. Many people mistakenly identify this as an iron (Fe) deficiency. My hypothesis is that the interaction between K and Mg might cause K to block Mg absorption to some extent. By adjusting the ratio to increase Ca and Mg while lowering K, the Fe deficiency disappeared, revealing that the issue was actually Mg deficiency caused by K.

Another observation is that K deficiency was rarely seen, even with potassium levels as low as 1-3 ppm. In some cases, plants grew well with K levels below 1 ppm added weekly, reaching heights of 2-3 feet without showing any signs of deficiency in either the stems or leaves. It seems that some plants that suffered during this experiment likely had issues stemming from other factors, such as phosphorus (P), micronutrients, or iron. I’m still working on further evaluating these variables to understand the full picture.

I’d love to hear your thoughts and any additional insights you may have from your experiments. In the near future, you might consider experimenting with higher K relative to Ca and Mg in the same setup #7 to see if you observe similar issues as I have.

Looking forward to hearing from you!

Best regards,
Happi"
 
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Additionally, I’d like to share a few observations:
When potassium (K) levels exceeded calcium (Ca) and magnesium (Mg), I noticed frequent Mg deficiency. Many people mistakenly identify this as an iron (Fe) deficiency. My hypothesis is that the interaction between K and Mg might cause K to block Mg absorption to some extent. By adjusting the ratio to increase Ca and Mg while lowering K, the Fe deficiency disappeared, revealing that the issue was actually Mg deficiency caused by K.

Another observation is that K deficiency was rarely seen, even with potassium levels as low as 1-3 ppm. In some cases, plants grew well with K levels below 1 ppm added weekly, reaching heights of 2-3 feet without showing any signs of deficiency in either the stems or leaves. It seems that some plants that suffered during this experiment likely had issues stemming from other factors, such as phosphorus (P), micronutrients, or iron. I’m still working on further evaluating these variables to understand the full picture.
I can observe the same. I dosed K a little high for a while and there were considerable growth problems. Mg deficiency included. It is then also very difficult to detect a micronutrient deficiency. I try to keep K below or equal to Mg. That always works for me.
 
I’d love to hear your thoughts and any additional insights you may have from your experiments ...
As I tried to explain in my personal thread (here), engaging in online discussions doesn't do me much good. I tend to evaluate most opinions (and many of them negatively if I feel they are wrong). Then, when I add to that negative content my sometimes not-so-gracious way of communicating it, it's a recipe for trouble. Part of it is certainly my problem. I'm trying to learn to get along with people who are very distant in opinion from me. But I confess that I'm not very good at it yet, and I'm not even sure if it's possible with all people. It is possible, of course, until you start evaluating their opinions. 🙂

Anyway, on another forum, where I also posted this experiment of mine, a doubt arose whether it is possible to conclude from my experiment that the nutrient concentrations I used in my experimental aquariums (where I used only a very small number of plants [in terms of absolute numbers] => e.g. only about 40 stems) would feed even maybe ten times the number of plants in a "real planted aquarium". If I were to evaluate this query (as is my habit), the first thing that comes to mind is that the interviewer completely failed to take into account the size of the aquarium. For example, I have "only" about 40 plant stems in my aquarium, whereas he may have about 400, but my aquarium is also only 20L (5 gallons), whereas his might be say 200L (50g). So, after a logical evaluation of his query, I believe that [even] the [very low] nutrient concentrations I used (i.e. 11 ppm CO2, 3 ppm NO3, 0.3 ppm H2PO4, 0.04 ppm Fe, etc. at 100-230 µmol PAR) should support similar plants in almost any planted aquarium.

P.S. As for trying different K:Ca:Mg ratios, that is certainly a good idea that I will be happy to test. Only now I need to take a break for a few months (I have a lot of other things in my life to deal with) and besides that I would like to test the effect of different CO2 levels first (e.g. 5, 10, 20, 40 ppm) in the next experiment.
 
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Anyway, on another forum, where I also posted this experiment of mine, a doubt arose whether it is possible to conclude from my experiment that the nutrient concentrations I used in my experimental aquariums (where I used only a very small number of plants [in terms of absolute numbers] => e.g. only about 40 stems) would feed even maybe ten times the number of plants in a "real planted aquarium". If I were to evaluate this query (as is my habit), the first thing that comes to mind is that the interviewer completely failed to take into account the size of the aquarium. For example, I have "only" about 40 plant stems in my aquarium, whereas he may have about 400, but my aquarium is also only 20L (5 gallons), whereas his might be say 200L (50g). So, after a logical evaluation of his query, I believe that [even] the [very low] nutrient concentrations I used (i.e. 11 ppm CO2, 3 ppm NO3, 0.3 ppm H2PO4, 0.04 ppm Fe, etc. at 100-230 µmol PAR) should support similar plants in almost any planted aquarium.

Marcel, I fully support your hypothesis. I manage a densely planted 50-gallon (200L) aquarium with a variety of plant species, and my nutrient dosing is similar to or even slightly higher than the levels you tested. From my experience, these levels are more than enough for optimal plant growth—sometimes too much. As a result, I often reduce my doses by about half with no negative impact on plant health. I also add more CO2 than in your experiment, which accelerates growth in my tank. If the nutrient levels were insufficient, I would expect to see significant growth problems. The only minor issues I encounter are related to shading when the tank gets overgrown, along with a few other smaller issues that I’m currently addressing. These, however, don’t contradict your findings. In fact, my experience supports your hypothesis, as the results match your experiments.

For anyone dosing between 1-3 ppm N weekly, I think this range works well for a variety of setups, including high-tech tanks with dense plant growth. Your point about tank size is especially relevant. While I have a lot more plants in absolute terms, the key factor is the nutrient concentration per unit of water, not just the total number of plants. My dosing schedule provides 3.5 ppm N, 0.455 ppm P, and 0.1 ppm Fe, and my tank thrives—sometimes even becoming overgrown. In some cases, I reduce the nitrogen dose to 1-2 ppm N weekly, and the plants continue to do well. This further supports your argument that leaner nutrient concentrations, like the ones you tested, should work across a wide range of planted aquariums.

Although I’ve noticed some minor issues with about 1 in 10 plant species (mostly on the lower leaves), these are likely due to shading as the tank becomes dense, also possibly related to nutrient imbalances.

I’m also continuing to review your overall experiments, not just setup #7. There’s so much valuable data that requires careful analysis. I saw that you included Cobalt in your recipe and excluded Molybdenum. I would expect the lack of Mo to slow NO3 uptake, but Cobalt could still aid in nitrogen fixation. Since NH4 bypasses both of these elements, this might explain some of the nutrient dynamics in your experiment. I also noticed the inclusion of Na in your recipe, which is less common in plant nutrient solutions, and I’m curious about how this impacts plant growth and nutrient uptake in your setup.

While I don’t expect a response, I wanted to share my findings and opinion as they strongly support your hypothesis. My experiences align with your work, and I’m excited to continue exploring these nutrient interactions to refine my own setup further.
 
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I try to keep K below or equal to Mg. That always works for me.
I've been doing this for about a year now (K < Mg) - low tech. I can't really say it made a big difference - some difference I think. The biggest benefit for me is that I can dose far less and not adding anything my tank wont benefit from... keeping my uS/cm lower for the benefit of my livestock etc.

As I tried to explain in my personal thread (here), engaging in online discussions doesn't do me much good. I tend to evaluate most opinions (and many of them negatively if I feel they are wrong). Then, when I add to that negative content my sometimes not-so-gracious way of communicating it, it's a recipe for trouble. Part of it is certainly my problem. I'm trying to learn to get along with people who are very distant in opinion from me. But I confess that I'm not very good at it yet, and I'm not even sure if it's possible with all people. It is possible, of course, until you start evaluating their opinions. 🙂
Just keep up the good work and post your findings and don’t feel obligated to entertain further discussions if you want to avoid that. While clarifying QA are often helpful and encouraged there are no rules that suggest that you have to engage in opinionated back and forth if you sense a discussion is going in that direction.

Cheers,
Michael
 
Since Happi has raised some important questions here, I'll try to join the discussion exceptionally to explain a bit my reasons why I decided to use such low concentrations and also sodium (which apparently is not an essential nutrient).

1) I have quite a lot of experience with failure. You could say I am a champion at failing at growing aquarium plants. Because of this, I am constantly asking myself why certain plants fail in my aquariums, what is to blame, while trying to pinpoint the factors that might play the biggest role. Most modern aquarists blame most of the failure on CO2 or various deficiencies, so the EI method has taken hold, which primarily considers CO2 (in combination with unlimited nutrients) as the key factor. I have never been able to confirm this assumption in my experiments. Or, to be more precise, I have managed to confirm that CO2 does play a significant role, but not in high concentrations (= 10-15 ppm is abundantly sufficient for optimal growth). Similarly, I have verified that the plants [which I had the opportunity to test] need much less nutrients for good growth than is generally recommended in plant aquarium science today. These conclusions are perfectly logical and theoretically valid even without any practical verification (just like the theory of relativity was valid before it could be verified in practice => practice will only confirm it, but we don't need practice to know that it is true; logical [theoretical] reasoning is plenty sufficient for that ... though of course I understand that some more practical-minded people just need to see it for themselves before they believe the logical reasoning). In fact, plant growth is not linear, but logarithmic, which means that every slight increase in nutrient concentration leads to a several-fold increase in growth, but the more nutrients we add, the less we get (see the law of diminishing returns). So, it was clear to me from the beginning that no high concentrations of CO2 or other nutrients are necessary (and in fact cannot be optimal in principle). I consider a 50% growth (or photosynthesis) rate to be optimal, which is referred to in the literature as Km or K 1/2 (so-called "half saturation point").

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This picture shows a certain law of nature. If we understand this law, we do not need any practical experiments to know that high nutrient concentrations are not necessary for good plant growth. Practical experiments can only confirm this. There are many similar [theoretical] observations of such laws of nature in physics, chemistry, biology and ecology. We only need to find them, understand them and properly apply them in practice. At least that's what I'm trying to do.

Anyway, if nutrients are not the real problem, what is the problem? I didn't know this, so I wondered how to devise an experiment that would figure this out (or at least help us discover something useful). From the scientific literature, I tried to pick out the various factors that scientists are studying and finding to have a big effect on plants. The factors with the greatest influence are definitely pH (which is overlooked by today's aquarists a lot), redox, bacteria, [dissolved] organic matter, and bicarbonate.

The possible influence of bacteria has been very nicely raised by Sudipta Shaw, but so far we know very little about their influence and it is very difficult to test this experimentally. I must therefore leave this area to someone more qualified. It is similarly difficult to test redox. It is still possible in water, but measuring it in a substrate is a problem. The redox (together with pH) decides which substances are reduced and which are oxidized in the substrate, which significantly influences the (un)availability of nutrients and their possible toxicity (and in turn their possible deficiency in water). Similarly, the content of labile organic matter in the substrate or the dissolved organic matter content in the water can have a significant effect. Both can [under certain circumstances] be toxic to plants. Just use a substrate that has a higher organic content (>15%) and most of your plants can die in it. [BTW, although I have mentioned it elsewhere, even the same two substrates from the same brand, e.g. ADA Amazonia, may not have the same composition, which was quite unpleasant discovery for me. So while Joe's plants may grow beautifully in his ADA Amazonia substrate, Johnny's may stagnate or die in the same-brand substrate.] Aquarists often focus on the water, so they use e.g. activated carbon or Purigen (and similar products) to remove dissolved organic matter from the water. But they completely overlook the same problem in the substrate. If you think of the substrate as an alcohol factory (where the alcohol is the organics, for example), then using activated carbon or Purigen means removing all the bottles of alcohol from the city. But if you don't shut down the distillery, then you are only addressing the effects and ignoring the cause ...

So, since I don't have the proper equipment to examine bacteria, soil redox, or organics, I decided to focus primarily on pH and bicarbonate. Of course, given this limited scope, it is highly likely that I will not be able to detect all the key factors that have a major influence on aquarium plant growth. I take this into account and therefore certainly do not claim that pH and bicarbonate are the most important. Anyway, I believe that these two factors can also provide us with important pieces to the overall mosaic. And as it turns out, I was right => pH and bicarbonate are certainly among those key factors for (un)success (as opposed to high CO2 concentration and non-limiting concentration of other nutrients). So my last two experiments are just a kind of starting point (stepping stone) that can point us in the right direction. This should be kept in mind at all times when evaluating them! In no case can any definite conclusions be drawn from them. It is also good to remember that I have only tested a few plant species in them so far. Other species might turn out differently in them. Still, I'm very happy with how the experiments turned out. I think I was able to select certain model plant species with different preferences. My only regret is that I couldn't get Rotala wallichii for the second experiment. I bought the plants for the experiment before Christmas and most were sold out. And the only dealer who still offered R. wallichii ended up sending me Rotala sp. Vietnam instead (which I only found out at home and there was no time to deal with it). Still, the results provide a number of useful insights => e.g. about the (non)importance of high nutrient concentrations, the (non)importance of the substrate for some plant species, algae growth dynamics, root development vs inhibition etc., and especially the effect of pH and bicarbonate. So much for explaining my motivations and goals.

2) As for why I used sodium (Na) in my recipe, it was mainly because I hadn't tested whether it might be of any use to some of the plants I tested. Sodium is quite common in natural waters, and is quite abundant in tropical waters. Therefore, I didn't want to leave it out completely (even though the literature says it is not essential). In addition, I had planned to have Ammannia pedicellata 'Gold' in my experiment also, not much was known about its preferences. So I didn't want to take the chance that maybe sodium might be important to her, and I didn't figure it out just because I'd missed it. It's certainly better to add it than not. In fact, adding it [in reasonable amounts] can't do any harm, unlike not adding it.

3) As for microelements, don't look for anything special in that. Again, I made the simple assumption that the vast majority of microelements are present either in the tap water, or in the substrate, or [in the form of admixtures] in the bulk chemicals from which I prepare my fertilizer. Cobalt and molybdenum are required by plants in such negligible quantities that it probably doesn't make sense to bother adding them to fertiliser at all. Trying to eliminate them from the aquarium is virtually impossible. You can get enough of them in there from the air (on dust particles, for example). I still prefered to add cobalt, but not molybdenum. The other microelements are already needed by the plants in slightly higher amounts, so I definitely added those. Only now I can see in retrospect that I made a mistake: most of the microelements are chelated with EDTA, only the iron is chelated with DTPA (and I added a smaller part in the form of Fe-gluconate for good measure, because iron has the greatest tendency of the microelements to oxidize and precipitate).

4) As for my own assessment, I don't think all the concentrations I used in the second test (= lean fertilisation) are completely optimal. I would probably add a bit of nitrogen and proportionally some phosphorus. The 3 ppm (split in half between NH4 and NO3) seems a bit low to me, which was a bit evident on the Hygrophila. In future experiments I would probably try to raise it to twice that. Similarly, I might raise the calcium and magnesium to 10 + 3 [just to be safe]. Such concentrations might be optimal. But take it with a grain of salt.

5) A.pedicellata was shedding its lower leaves quite a bit (much more in the first experiment where I used high nutrient concentrations; there even some stems were downright rotting). I don't know the reason for this and I don't dare to guess. I simply have no idea.
 
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The 3 ppm (split in half between NH4 and NO3) seems a bit low to me, which was a bit evident on the Hygrophila. In future experiments I would probably try to raise it to twice that. Similarly, I might raise the calcium and magnesium to 10 + 3 [just to be safe]. Such concentrations might be optimal. But take it with a grain of salt.

I also want to make sure there’s no misunderstanding about Marcel’s statement regarding nitrogen levels. When he mentioned "3 ppm (split in half between NH4 and NO3)," he was referring to the total NO3 if all the NH4NO3 were fully converted into NO3. However, the actual total nitrogen content is 0.676 ppm, which is evenly split between NH4 and NO3. This means that in reality, there is only 1.5 ppm NO3 present, with the other half being NH4. Some may misinterpret the 3 ppm as the total nitrogen if they’re not paying close attention, so it’s an important distinction to clarify.

Setup# 7

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As for why I used sodium (Na) in my recipe, it was mainly because I hadn't tested whether it might be of any use to some of the plants I tested. Sodium is quite common in natural waters, and is quite abundant in tropical waters. Therefore, I didn't want to leave it out completely (even though the literature says it is not essential).
Sodium is now <generally accepted> as an "essential" nutrient for <C4 plants>. This includes the genus Alteranthera, and the familes Cyperaceae (includes Eleocharis etc.) and Hydrocharitaceae - so a lot of aquarium plants. It is used to transport pyruvate into chloroplasts (the bit of plant cells that does the photosynthesis). The genome that codes for this transporter protein (named BASS2 bile acid sodium symporter family protein 2) was identified in all land plants <Reference>, and for many non-C4 plants it is still considered a "beneficial" plant nutrient. Sodium is known to substitute for low potassium levels and maintain the enzyme activity of starch synthesase in certain plants, amongst other things, but it will also affect the osmotic potential across plant tissue which can be an issue sometimes. So the Na : K ratio is a fairly interesting concept. I think sodium is far more vital to animals, so it does need to be present in some form for shrimp, snails, fish and other invertebrates (probably even bacteria and microfauna too).

Great work :thumbup: ... enjoyable and interesting.
 
As for why I used sodium (Na) in my recipe, it was mainly because I hadn't tested whether it might be of any use to some of the plants I tested. Sodium is quite common in natural waters, and is quite abundant in tropical waters. Therefore, I didn't want to leave it out completely (even though the literature says it is not essential). In addition, I had planned to have Ammannia pedicellata 'Gold' in my experiment also, not much was known about its preferences. So I didn't want to take the chance that maybe sodium might be important to her, and I didn't figure it out just because I'd missed it. It's certainly better to add it than not. In fact, adding it [in reasonable amounts] can't do any harm, unlike not adding it.
Same here, I add sea salt to my “RO reminder + macro” mix to make sure Na is in there.

Sodium is now <generally accepted> as an "essential" nutrient for <C4 plants>. This includes the genus Alteranthera, and the familes Cyperaceae (includes Eleocharis etc.) and Hydrocharitaceae - so a lot of aquarium plants. It is used to transport pyruvate into chloroplasts (the bit of plant cells that does the photosynthesis). The genome that codes for this transporter protein (named BASS2 bile acid sodium symporter family protein 2) was identified in all land plants <Reference>, and for many non-C4 plants it is still considered a "beneficial" plant nutrient. Sodium is known to substitute for low potassium levels and maintain the enzyme activity of starch synthesase in certain plants, amongst other things, but it will also affect the osmotic potential across plant tissue which can be an issue sometimes. So the Na : K ratio is a fairly interesting concept. I think sodium is far more vital to animals, so it does need to be present in some form for shrimp, snails, fish and other invertebrates (probably even bacteria and microfauna too).
Interesting addition! Like Marcel, I always found Na is so common, it should not be left out when I remineralise RO water.
 
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