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Where plants go to die

It isn't fair to compare Pets at home with Living Waters, bit like comparing Asda with Morgan cars, .. 🙂

Living Waters is a shop run by a guy that does anything else but aquatic plants and fish, single shop, and Pet's at Home is run as a business with lots and lots of shops.

Even the guys at Maindenhead get it wrong sometimes, so not surprised that Pet's at Home is strugling.

I am sure that they are on the right path, and if they have Tropica's help and advice, then they will suceed surely.
 
ghostsword said:
Tim, they already got the photoperiod, not giving the plants CO2 and ferts is what is creating a mess. CO2 and ferts do not create algae, but the lack of it surely does. 🙂

They get plants weekly, so why not empty the tank weekly as well? 100% water change if needed. Raise the light, or use spot lights instead.. but without giving the plants co2 and ferts, dumping them underwater, when they were all grown emersed, is a bit crazy..
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sorry mate but the lack of it surely doesn't always i run a couple of low techs ppmd once a week water change once a week keep filters clean and no carbon supplement at all rarely any algae issues but obviously these tanks are low light whereas my high tech lots of co2 EI dosing lots of light nothing but algae issues for a good 6 months still im still learning IMO adding co2 and ferts will not solve their problems only speed them up their holding tanks are not high tech planted aquariums surely they would do better by lowering their lighting intensity and changing the water of the tanks more regularly i wouldnt want to buy plants from a high tech holding tank to place into my low tech and watch them disolve just because i dont want to add co2 to my setup as everyone knows almost impossible to go from high to low tech due to taking the carbon source away :thumbup:
 
ghostsword said:
It isn't fair to compare Pets at home with Living Waters, bit like comparing Asda with Morgan cars, .. 🙂

Living Waters is a shop run by a guy that does anything else but aquatic plants and fish, single shop, and Pet's at Home is run as a business with lots and lots of shops.

Even the guys at Maindenhead get it wrong sometimes, so not surprised that Pet's at Home is strugling.

I am sure that they are on the right path, and if they have Tropica's help and advice, then they will suceed surely.
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I'm just comparing the retail of healthy vs languishing plants, it's a specialist trade, so reckon it's valid to highlight an approach that work fine.
 
ghostsword said:
Even the guys at Maindenhead get it wrong sometimes, so not surprised that Pet's at Home is strugling.
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ONLY sometimes?! Come to my local... you are in for a shock.

You make them sound saintly :lol:
 
SmallestFrog said:
ghostsword said:
Even the guys at Maindenhead get it wrong sometimes, so not surprised that Pet's at Home is strugling.
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ONLY sometimes?! Come to my local... you are in for a shock.

You make them sound saintly :lol:
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You should come to MY local. You would be pleasantly surprised. The plants are usually in good condition (albeit half empty because they sell so fast there). The fish are healthy and tanks well looked after and the marine section is one of the best I have seen in the south east. :thumbup:
 
Too many ma have fish in with their plants. I don't like that at all. Bad practice.
 
Thread going slightly of topic with the mention of MA and fish in there ranks BUT I'm interested as to why this is bad practice?
 
I'd have thought the fish in the planted tanks are in the bet place in the shop...the pent house if I may be so bold haha 😀
 
IMO this is better practice, as 1, the plants get shown off in a tank and 2, the fish will often colour up better.
 
Antipofish said:
You should come to MY local. You would be pleasantly surprised. The plants are usually in good condition (albeit half empty because they sell so fast there). The fish are healthy and tanks well looked after and the marine section is one of the best I have seen in the south east. :thumbup:
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Ooh, which one is that? Will have to see if I can pay it a visit!
 
Bad practice because I don't want fish disease. Lingering on plants. Or un hatched eggs etc
 
I think you would be extremely unlikely to find fish eggs on plants, and even if you did I doubt they would survive the trip.

Fish disease is a valid point though. I've never thought about that but then again if the fish lookedhappy in there then is buy, but if the fish was trying to hang itself from the nearest java fern and riddled with white spots I may swerve the purchase tbh
 
darren636 said:
Too many ma have fish in with their plants. I don't like that at all. Bad practice.
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Why ? We all have fish in with plants don't we ?

Ahh replied before seeing your later post. Honestly darren, I doubt that would happen. And as someone else suggested, if the fish look healthy no drama, if they look sick, don't buy. But I would imagine the incidence of fish disease being transported by plants to be highly unlikely.
 
I would just rather do it the aqua essentials way. Plants from fish populated tanks should be quarantined in my opinion.
 
darren636 said:
I would just rather do it the aqua essentials way. Plants from fish populated tanks should be quarantined in my opinion.
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Actually, some people believe that ALL plants should be quarantined. Certainly there was a lot of exposure to plants coming in from Asia causing problems with shrimp tanks. So you are right. If in doubt, regardless of fish or not (incidentally, some of the healthiest plants I have seen around have had fish in their tanks !) quarantine the plants for a few days.

Personally I am happier seeing fish in a nicely kept plant display/sales tank as its much more natural. The only time I imported snails into my tank was from buying potted plants from a display that looked like it needed cleaning out. And having bought plants from at least ten different locations, half of which had fish in, I have never suffered consequential losses or poor fish health. Its more a case of trusting your instincts I believe.
 
Everything that goes into my tank gets quarantined. Plants from ae- 3 days. Plants from ma and on the forum- 7 days
 
nayr88 said:
I think you would be extremely unlikely to find fish eggs on plants, and even if you did I doubt they would survive the trip.

Fish disease is a valid point though. I've never thought about that but then again if the fish lookedhappy in there then is buy, but if the fish was trying to hang itself from the nearest java fern and riddled with white spots I may swerve the purchase tbh
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Do a quick search and you will find huge numbers of threads on various forums about mysterious fry appearing with new plants. Eggs survive in the post very well as long as they stay moist.
 
Fish eggs, whitespot, parasites. All can be transferee via plantage.
 
C'mon guys ease up!

Unless your keeping shrimp then I think it's all abit over kill to turn your nose up at decent kept planted tanks containing fish.

It's simple common sense among us hobbyist that if you see a half dead fish or rotting plants don't buy
Same as walking in to a butchers and seeing one of those huge flies that's hangs around poo grazing on your pork loin and buying it.




Word of the day 'plantage' love it haha!!
 
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