What spec scales - Weighing EI chems

[Nathaniel Whiteside]

Less then a jacks sire.

20 B&H cost more or 4 ltrs of fuel.

Well, here is the thing; This get's a bit deep so don't freak out too much at what I'm about to say. You can either use it or the throw it away. The choice is yours.
On the face of it, it's not really a big deal if someone uses a fancy electronic scale or fancy spoons or whatever contraption vendors choose to sell. Every now and again there is a really good reason for using these implements.

But 99% of us really don't have a good reason. Your reason, at a profound subliminal level is that you are a slave to The Matrix in exactly the same way as the test kit lovers are enslaved. The Matrix is a prison for your mind, and it reaches out to you as if you wore a halter and were held and steered by some unseen rider at the reins. At a very deep level you fear to get the numbers wrong, to stray to far from the magical ppm level beyond which you fear to tread. This is actually the same old test kit syndrome masquerading as a 1/64th spoon.

So although it doesn't really matter physically, psychologically, it means that you are still trapped, still plugged into The Matrix, and that your mind is working along the same irrational path that got us all into trouble in the first place.

When you decide that no spoons are needed and that no scales are needed it will be like removing the halter and reins, and you will have freed your mind. Freeing your mind from spoons and scales although scary at first will allow you to travel wherever you want to go and in the future, your mind will be unfettered from the fears that clog thinking and problem solving. You will be able to learn more easily, troubleshoot problems more easily and you will be more rational in your approach to the tank.

FREE.....YOUR.....MIND....


Cheers,

That was heavy..!

 

[ian_m]

Re: What spec scales - Weighing EL chems

Wooooow....for less price that a set of digital bong scales on Ebay you can get a much more accurate set of 24 finest stainless steel teaspoons for only £3.95 delivered. No need to wash them up afterwards just throw them away. Fantastica accurate bargain.

500g Digital Scales was £4.50 i think (with Batteries included). But spoons might be attractive, as I am certain I will get bored with measuring.

any links for the spoons, did you mean on ebay?

Just Ebay for tea spoons.

 

[CeeJay]

Hi all

Just Ebay for tea spoons.

Or the kitchen drawer

 

[sr20det]

Less then a jacks sire.

20 B&H cost more or 4 ltrs of fuel.

Well, here is the thing; This get's a bit deep so don't freak out too much at what I'm about to say. You can either use it or the throw it away. The choice is yours.
On the face of it, it's not really a big deal if someone uses a fancy electronic scale or fancy spoons or whatever contraption vendors choose to sell. Every now and again there is a really good reason for using these implements.

But 99% of us really don't have a good reason. Your reason, at a profound subliminal level is that you are a slave to The Matrix in exactly the same way as the test kit lovers are enslaved. The Matrix is a prison for your mind, and it reaches out to you as if you wore a halter and were held and steered by some unseen rider at the reins. At a very deep level you fear to get the numbers wrong, to stray to far from the magical ppm level beyond which you fear to tread. This is actually the same old test kit syndrome masquerading as a 1/64th spoon.

So although it doesn't really matter physically, psychologically, it means that you are still trapped, still plugged into The Matrix, and that your mind is working along the same irrational path that got us all into trouble in the first place.

When you decide that no spoons are needed and that no scales are needed it will be like removing the halter and reins, and you will have freed your mind. Freeing your mind from spoons and scales although scary at first will allow you to travel wherever you want to go and in the future, your mind will be unfettered from the fears that clog thinking and problem solving. You will be able to learn more easily, troubleshoot problems more easily and you will be more rational in your approach to the tank.

FREE.....YOUR.....MIND....


Cheers,

gobby neo, that moi

 

[ceg4048]

That was heavy..!

Yeah, I know....it usually freaks people out.
I never said it would be easy Neo, only that it would be the truth... 8)

Cheers,

 

[sr20det]

Thanks bud, got the scales anyway, but will be taking a laid back aprroach with it. Could have just used a teaspoon spoon I guess 🙄

 

[Joecoral]

So basically just bang in a few teaspoons of each as quantity is not relevant as long as the nutrient is in excess?

 

[ian_m]

The specialist equipment I have for mixing EI salts (other than 500ml dosing bottles supplied with my EI kit) are 6 teaspoons and 2 off 39p each Tesco 1litre jugs.

Each bag of salts has a teaspoon in and each jug has a spoon in. Pour in 500ml water into each jug and allow to cool, say whilst doing a water change. Open each bag, spoon out required amount (no searching for spoons, scales etc as in the bag), spoon in to relevant jug and mix with spoon. Pour resulting solution into bottle. Stack jugs and spoons away ready for next time, job done. No dirtying containers whilst weighing, no washing of spoons and containers, all can be done in kitchen sink in case of any spillage and/or mess.

 

[sr20det]

The specialist equipment I have for mixing EI salts (other than 500ml dosing bottles supplied with my EI kit) are 6 teaspoons and 2 off 39p each Tesco 1litre jugs.

Each bag of salts has a teaspoon in and each jug has a spoon in. Pour in 500ml water into each jug and allow to cool, say whilst doing a water change. Open each bag, spoon out required amount (no searching for spoons, scales etc as in the bag), spoon in to relevant jug and mix with spoon. Pour resulting solution into bottle. Stack jugs and spoons away ready for next time, job done. No dirtying containers whilst weighing, no washing of spoons and containers, all can be done in kitchen sink in case of any spillage and/or mess.

Sounds perfect for me, almost low maintenance when you think about it. I may follow the same approach bud

 

[san-ho-zay]

So basically just bang in a few teaspoons of each as quantity is not relevant as long as the nutrient is in excess?

Maybe not quite as lax as that -- there's no point wasting the stuff and an even dosage is recommended.

 

[ian_m]

The specialist equipment I have for mixing EI salts (other than 500ml dosing bottles supplied with my EI kit) are 6 teaspoons and 2 off 39p each Tesco 1litre jugs.

Each bag of salts has a teaspoon in and each jug has a spoon in. Pour in 500ml water into each jug and allow to cool, say whilst doing a water change. Open each bag, spoon out required amount (no searching for spoons, scales etc as in the bag), spoon in to relevant jug and mix with spoon. Pour resulting solution into bottle. Stack jugs and spoons away ready for next time, job done. No dirtying containers whilst weighing, no washing of spoons and containers, all can be done in kitchen sink in case of any spillage and/or mess.

Sounds perfect for me, almost low maintenance when you think about it. I may follow the same approach bud

What would make it quicker would be to pour water into dosing bottles, allow to cool a bit then put the salts straight into the bottle. However spooning salts into the neck of the bottles without spillage is not as easy as dropping into a jug and then pouring into the bottles. Also not too sure the dosing bottles would stand boiling water as well as the jugs do.

 

[sr20det]

The specialist equipment I have for mixing EI salts (other than 500ml dosing bottles supplied with my EI kit) are 6 teaspoons and 2 off 39p each Tesco 1litre jugs.

Each bag of salts has a teaspoon in and each jug has a spoon in. Pour in 500ml water into each jug and allow to cool, say whilst doing a water change. Open each bag, spoon out required amount (no searching for spoons, scales etc as in the bag), spoon in to relevant jug and mix with spoon. Pour resulting solution into bottle. Stack jugs and spoons away ready for next time, job done. No dirtying containers whilst weighing, no washing of spoons and containers, all can be done in kitchen sink in case of any spillage and/or mess.

Sounds perfect for me, almost low maintenance when you think about it. I may follow the same approach bud

What would make it quicker would be to pour water into dosing bottles, allow to cool a bit then put the salts straight into the bottle. However spooning salts into the neck of the bottles without spillage is not as easy as dropping into a jug and then pouring into the bottles. Also not too sure the dosing bottles would stand boiling water as well as the jugs do.

Can I use a glass jug? I wouldnt be too keen in puring hot water into plastic :?

 

[ian_m]

Can I use a glass jug? I wouldnt be too keen in puring hot water into plastic :?

A assume so ? My plastic ones were only 39p from Tesco and are absolutely fine with boiling water. I would be more worried about breakages with glass (and cost).

I just bung my plastic ones in my bucket of fish water changing bits after use, no worry about breakage (or cost).

 

[Aqua sobriquet]

No need for jugs, just use a wide mouth bottle:

 

[sr20det]

No need for jugs, just use a wide mouth bottle:

Even better i guess, I need to get my hands on a dosing bottle mind, i see the doising bottles offered but seeing as I will be doing a nano with all in one liquid solution maybe a small spoon will suffice.

 

[Nathaniel Whiteside]

No need for jugs, just use a wide mouth bottle:

Even better i guess, I need to get my hands on a dosing bottle mind, i see the doising bottles offered but seeing as I will be doing a nano with all in one liquid solution maybe a small spoon will suffice.

Or buy a syringe? Good for all round dosing including accurate Easy carbo?

I have a few 🙂

 

[sr20det]

Or buy a syringe? Good for all round dosing including accurate Easy carbo?

I have a few 🙂

Likewise I already have a few, 5ml and 1ml ones, so should be enough, i may get one 10ml one though. I like the idea of the sqeeze into a 5ml compartment and then pour like the dosing bottle I have seen, but not sure if they are 5ml or more

 

[Nathaniel Whiteside]

You can get them in 250ml which has a 10ml one, or 500ml with a 20ml one.

Im sure thats what my TPN+ and TPN are at home mate.

 

[Aqua sobriquet]

I only use the wide mouth bottles for mixing/storage. I have dosing bottles and bought a pack of mixed syringes on ebay cheap - 1,5,10 and 20Ml.

 

[spyder]

What would make it quicker would be to pour water into dosing bottles, allow to cool a bit then put the salts straight into the bottle. However spooning salts into the neck of the bottles without spillage is not as easy as dropping into a jug and then pouring into the bottles.

Your almost there. How about using a plastic funnel to add your salts to an empty dosing bottle then measuring out water from the tap into a measuring jug, pouring into dosing bottle, cap it and shake it well.