What Remineralisers are you using ?

[MichaelJ]

So I was wrong

Yes. ,,, I weren't entirely sure why @X3NiTH thought he was wrong... as 1 Clarke is 0.798 KH per my calculation above thus 1/0.798 or 1.253 Clarke = 1 KH. (which is in accordance with the table from Wikipedia and also what @X3NiTH said above when stating 1°d = 1.24°e ).

Regards,
Michael

 

[Zeus.]

m guessing theres no way to include the Chloride ions from the one product because we have no idea how much is in there then?

No, not without the data we are guessing, however they have probably use CaCl2:2H2O, like I did to clone it, or MgCl2.6H2O or a mix of what ever salts are cheap and available


Works out a little cheaper as well
here another clone with a bit more Cl and a remineralising solution which makes life easier IMO

Cost went up with the remineralising solution as MgCl2.6H2O was used which cost more than MgSO4.7H2O

 

[X3NiTH]

I got my head turned around there sigh, ah well were all in agreement then!

🙂

 

[MichaelJ]

I got my head turned around there sigh, ah well were all in agreement then!

Yes, and there is absolutely nothing wrong in admitting to be wrong about being wrong - we were both right however

 

[MichaelJ]

Hi all,
Dash of tap water for me and a conductivity (or conductivity proxy) reading.

cheers Darrel

I sort of overlooked this one, but it might just have made my day! 🙂. ... speaking of arcane measurements, a dash... is that like somewhere between a smidgen and a pinch ?

 

[Hanuman]

I sort of overlooked this one, but it might just have made my day! 🙂. ... speaking of arcane measurements, a dash... is that like somewhere between a smidgen and a pinch ?

maybe a bucket load.

 

[Kelvin12]

Another to the list, AZoo. Readily available here in AU.

 

[Hanuman]

Link and/or MSDS please.

 

[MichaelJ]

Another to the list, AZoo. Readily available here in AU.

Hi @Kelvin12 can you post a link to the specific product? ... nothing showed up in a google search.

Cheers,
Michael

 

[Kelvin12]

Should have added here AZoo GH plus. Claims here there is no increase in KH where others do raise K H.

 

[Kelvin12]

Crikey Michael J you do make it hard..... best I can fo for a computer cave man.....lol.

 

[dw1305]

Hi all,

a dash... is that like somewhere between a smidgen and a pinch ?

Yes sort of, but it refers to liquids, so somewhere between "splash" and a "glug".

maybe a bucket load.

That would be if I had softer tap water.

speaking of arcane measurements

You might be interested in <"this thread"> (on Apistogramma forums) and of course there is always <"the Groat">.

cheers Darrel

 

[Zeus.]

Crikey Michael J you do make it hard..... best I can fo for a computer cave man.....lol.

@Kelvin12 what do you pay for the Product and size of bottle you get, we can do maths and convert your currency(bottles of Fosters) to sterling 😉

 

[Kelvin12]

Zeus, we only export Fosters no self respecting Aussie would drink that.......
Azoo comes in 120ml @ $22, 250ml $32. It was recommended by a couple of breeders and a shrimp forum to use.
Haven't been able to find out actually whats in it. Seems pretty potent.
Dirk

 

[MichaelJ]

You might be interested in <"this thread"> (on Apistogramma forums) and of course there is always <"the Groat">.

A Wodge: "it is actually the official SI unit for all moss, moss is measured in "strands" (0.01 of a wodge), "tufts" (0.1 - 0.25 of a wodge), "wodges" (0.5 to x2 of a wodge) and "tankfuls" (~ x10 wodges)." .... I just cant wait to use that measurement

 

[Happi]

Zeus, we only export Fosters no self respecting Aussie would drink that.......
Azoo comes in 120ml @ $22, 250ml $32. It was recommended by a couple of breeders and a shrimp forum to use.
Haven't been able to find out actually whats in it. Seems pretty potent.
Dirk

Most likely they use calcium and magnesium chloride, especially if they say it doesn't raise the kh.

 

[Zeus.]

The 'sands of time' are running low on remineralising agents to be added
List on the IFC database so far is

Once it is released with the remineralising sheet it may be some time before we add more

 

[Hanuman]

The file is now in my hands after @Zeus. did the heavy lifting. I hope to finish before the end of April.

 

[Zeus.]

Due to the uncertainty of what parameters some products produce we have had to remove some products.
The issue to due to some products being unclear or misleading if its Permeant Hardness or Total hardness ( dGH + dKH), typically they give 'total hardness' then a GH :KH ratio which is hard to get to the bottom of with Total hardness and Permeant hardness being used interchangeably. Where the product has a clear details of the dGH and/or dKH or has %w/w for elements/compounds we are happy to have it in the IFC. If it isnt clear we are not happy to give possible incorrect data of a product.

We fully understand that when making remineralising salts/solution the maths will give certain accurate parameters, then if the parameters are measured once added to tank it may show a different parameter. This is due to water being complex and interacts with rocks/aquasoil/ferts etc which can change the parameters being aim for- this is normal, testing parameters is an other minefield in its self all together.

If you are after a certain dGH and/or dKH and a Ca:Mg ratio the new remin sheet hits the make IMO, the cloning feature is just a little bonus.
new revised list

The file is now in my hands after @Zeus. did the heavy lifting. I hope to finish before the end of April.

If I've done the heavy lifting @Hanuman polishes/debugs/triple checks/corrects all my work, plus manages the releases. We both spend many-many hours trying to get it as good and user friendly as possible.

 

[Zeus.]

Just an update the new remineraliser sheet has been release and it in the latest release of the IFC Calculator
(It was release quite a few weeks back but forgot to update this thread 😳)