Seachem Flourish Trace Clone

[Happi]

Some of the chemicals that I use are ACS grade chemicals which cost more money.

Glossary of Common Chemical Grades

 

[dw1305]

Hi all,

I am wondering if the Rubidium, Nickel and Vanadium in Seachem Flourish Trace is just collateral from the water source or impurities in the major elements they are adding

which is like 2.5 Parts Per Trillion .. I'd say shake well before use! 🙂

I'm pretty sure they are impurities. I assume when they ran the sample through an <"ICP / MS"> these came up as "present" so they added them to the label.

cheers Darrel

 

[dw1305]

Hi all,

I use are ACS grade chemicals which cost more money.

They <"certainly do">.

cheers Darrel

 

[medlight]

According to James

 

[X3NiTH]

@X3NiTH might be aware of some places that sell it

I sourced my Nickel Sulphate from eBay, came all the way over from Poland, it was the only cost effective source I found.

🙂

(Originally I posted Nickel Chloride, I forgot it’s the sulphate I’m using so I edited the post)

 

[X3NiTH]

I'm pretty sure they are impurities.

I’ve said the same for a while, it’s a convenient way to differentiate your product with all the others, it’s a plant available nutrient so mention it and it makes your compound ‘more’ than the others and also becomes harder to clone because sourcing these elements individually may be problematical or way too much of an expense.

As a side note Iron Sulphate used to make Iron traces comes with added mercury and arsenic as impurities in the parts per trillion also but nobody is putting that on their packaging even though the content amounts are safe for human consumption!

🙂

 

[MichaelJ]

t’s a convenient way to differentiate your product with all the others, it’s a plant available nutrient so mention it and it makes your compound ‘more’ than the others and also becomes harder to clone because sourcing these elements individually may be problematical or way too much of an expense.

I wonder why they didn't list Gold as well... In freshwater Gold is typically available at around 2-5 parts per trillion (much more in seawater) and have been found in plant leaves ... Imagine a Flourish Trace bottle with Gold lettering

Cheers,
Michael

 

[dw1305]

Hi all,

Imagine a Flourish Trace bottle with Gold lettering

Just don't suggest it to them, pretty soon it will appear, no doubt with the endorsement of several Youtubers.

I wonder why they didn't list Gold as well.

Not gold (Au), but we have been detoured down the <"diamond route before">.

cheers Darrel

 

[Hufsa]

Not gold (Au), but we have been detoured down the <"diamond route before">.

Speaking of diamonds, I once saw a womens shampoo advertising that it contained "real diamond extract"..

They were selling it for about 3.5 pounds a bottle, which I found especially impressive 😏

 

[arcturus]

Speaking of diamonds, I once saw a womens shampoo advertising that it contained "real diamond extract"..

They were selling it for about 3.5 pounds a bottle, which I found especially impressive 😏

You can also get <room sprays infused with gemstones> (whatever that means). But in this case there more than gemstones in the bottle… 😉

 

[John q]

Speaking of diamonds, I once saw a womens shampoo advertising that it contained "real diamond extract"..

They were selling it for about 3.5 pounds a bottle, which I found especially impressive 😏

Was it any good? 🙂

 

[arcturus]

Was it any good? 🙂

It was brilliant.

 

[JacksonL]

I sourced my Nickel Sulphate from eBay, came all the way over from Poland, it was the only cost effective source I found.

🙂

(Originally I posted Nickel Chloride, I forgot it’s the sulphate I’m using so I edited the post)

Good to know it’s not just me that could not find it locally!

 

[JacksonL]

Would ammonium nickel sulfate be useable? it is the only nickel powder I could find available in 100g or less.
Ammonium Nickel Sulfate crystals
(NH4)2Ni(SO4)2·6H2O
I realise the ammonium part could potentially be an issue but wonder if the tiny amounts I would be adding would discount that risk?

 

[Happi]

Would ammonium nickel sulfate be useable? it is the only nickel powder I could find available in 100g or less.
Ammonium Nickel Sulfate crystals
(NH4)2Ni(SO4)2·6H2O
I realise the ammonium part could potentially be an issue but wonder if the tiny amounts I would be adding would discount that risk?

Yes that should be fine as well.
Add 1.114 gram (NH4)2Ni(SO4)2·6H2O into solution #3

 

[JacksonL]

Thanks Happi

 

[X3NiTH]

Yeah Ammonium Nickel Sulphate totally fine to use, at the concentration you will be targeting for the Nickel the Ammonium concentration will be negligible.

🙂