IrvineHimself
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Nitrate Dosing?
In a recent thread on commissioning the Fzone CO2 generator, @Wookii brought up the subject of aquatic plant fertilisers. As I pointed out then, this is a subject for which I have a number of questions that are best answered in a separate thread.
Current Plants, Livestock and Concept:
For many years, I have had this haunting vision [almost a memory] of a dark and mysterious; moss laden aquascape with a solitary Betta slowly appearing from the gloom. While I say 'solitary Betta', I should point out that my goal is that no matter how many times you look at the 'finished tank', there will always be something new in the way of plant & livestock to be discovered.
I started planning the aquascape back in January of this year and received physical possession of my chosen tank at the end of April. At which point I spent the next month using neoprene and cardboard cut-outs to model the layout. It is a hybrid peninsular design with a front or public view and a back or private view. The hardscape forms a network of caves which run the length of the tank, and I want to grow walls of Christmas and Weeping Moss at each end of this reef with a Weeping Moss liana dissecting it. This gives me five areas of habitat [six counting floaters] with a sixth/seventh [newly liberated] area formerly occupied by my heater. (The Christmas moss wall will partially cover this latter area.)
Public view of tank

Private view of tank

Floaters

The aim is for the filter I/O wall, to have table like nodules of Christmas Moss and the outer wall to have similar nodules of Weeping Moss. The reef like structure bisecting the tank is also seeded with Christmas Moss, whereas the para-cord liana bisecting the tank at an angle is seeded with Weeping Moss.
The other plants I currently have are:
I have a long list of other plants and little tiny bits of real estate into which they will fit, but I have now lost over seven Anubis because the rhizomes turned to mush.
With regard to my floaters, as I explained to @Wookii , they have literally been put through the ringer and are in extremely poor condition. Subsequently, I noticed that a couple of leaves of Water Lettuce I got just before I got the Red Root Floaters had survived the commissioning of my new filter in a much better state than the latter. The truth is that the surface agitation with my new powerful filter is too much for floaters. I have made a couple of neoprene booms that allow good surface agitation, but contain the floaters in a calm pond. If it works, I would like to try and add a pond of Frogbit.
Anyway, on my next shopping list I have:
In terms of livestock I have:
I would also like to get small oddballs like Thai Micro Crabs and other very small, weird live stock that are difficult to see. but provoke amazement when spotted. Similarly, I am constantly looking for both small and large unusual plants.
My Tank:
It is a 90 litre (60*40*40cm) tank with a Filtosmart Thermo 200 filter. I am injecting CO2 and currently dose with 'TNC Light', which contains potassium and magnesiumbut no iron (1% K, 0.4% Mg, 0.08% Fe, 0.018% Mn, 0.002% Cu, 0.01% B, 0.01% Zn, 0.001% Mo)
So far, I have not yet dosed with nitrates, but on @Wookii s' suggestion I have added 'TNC Complete' to my next shopping list. Also, I invested in a 'No Spill' water change system which, with my advancing years and mobility issues, makes changing water a breeze. In addition, the system means that water changes are minimally disruptive to both plants and livestock. In other words, I am fully set up to do daily water changes if necessary.
However, during all my planning, I got caught up in the current fashion of balancing livestock with nitrate absorbing plants to minimise water changes. As a result, aesthetically, I would find it very pleasing if I could find the sweet spot where the waste from the livestock provide the plants with the required nitrates.
My Dosing Questions:
Noting my primary plants are the Christmas and Weeping Moss,:
Thanks in advance for your valuable opinions.
Irvine
In a recent thread on commissioning the Fzone CO2 generator, @Wookii brought up the subject of aquatic plant fertilisers. As I pointed out then, this is a subject for which I have a number of questions that are best answered in a separate thread.
Current Plants, Livestock and Concept:
For many years, I have had this haunting vision [almost a memory] of a dark and mysterious; moss laden aquascape with a solitary Betta slowly appearing from the gloom. While I say 'solitary Betta', I should point out that my goal is that no matter how many times you look at the 'finished tank', there will always be something new in the way of plant & livestock to be discovered.
I started planning the aquascape back in January of this year and received physical possession of my chosen tank at the end of April. At which point I spent the next month using neoprene and cardboard cut-outs to model the layout. It is a hybrid peninsular design with a front or public view and a back or private view. The hardscape forms a network of caves which run the length of the tank, and I want to grow walls of Christmas and Weeping Moss at each end of this reef with a Weeping Moss liana dissecting it. This gives me five areas of habitat [six counting floaters] with a sixth/seventh [newly liberated] area formerly occupied by my heater. (The Christmas moss wall will partially cover this latter area.)
Public view of tank

Private view of tank

Floaters

The aim is for the filter I/O wall, to have table like nodules of Christmas Moss and the outer wall to have similar nodules of Weeping Moss. The reef like structure bisecting the tank is also seeded with Christmas Moss, whereas the para-cord liana bisecting the tank at an angle is seeded with Weeping Moss.
The other plants I currently have are:
- Red Root Floaters
- Water Lettuce Floaters
- Dwarf hair grass (new)
- Pygmy Bucephalandra
- Bucephalandra
- Stem Plants (typical starter selection)
- Lobellia
- Two varieties Anubis remain (I lost another last week)
I have a long list of other plants and little tiny bits of real estate into which they will fit, but I have now lost over seven Anubis because the rhizomes turned to mush.
With regard to my floaters, as I explained to @Wookii , they have literally been put through the ringer and are in extremely poor condition. Subsequently, I noticed that a couple of leaves of Water Lettuce I got just before I got the Red Root Floaters had survived the commissioning of my new filter in a much better state than the latter. The truth is that the surface agitation with my new powerful filter is too much for floaters. I have made a couple of neoprene booms that allow good surface agitation, but contain the floaters in a calm pond. If it works, I would like to try and add a pond of Frogbit.
Anyway, on my next shopping list I have:
- More Pygmy Bucephalandra to plant along the gravel bed which will [hopefully] soon to be shaded by tables of Christmas Moss
- Four or five more of the larger Bucephalandra to plant along the reef and hardscape forming the border of the gravel bed. The aim is to create a thick jungle like barrier between the separate habitats.
- Something similar to Lobellia
- Possibly a Banana Plant or Red Tiger Lily, maybe even both.
- Frogbit?
In terms of livestock I have:
- Rock Gobies (3 but want 6)
- Kuhlis (4)
- Zebra loaches (4 but want 8)
- Pygmy Corys (5 but want 9)
- Neocaridina (want to replace with Ghost Shrimp)
- Rabbit snail (1)
- Bladder snails (not as many as I first feared)
- Endlers (10, intend to move to an overflow tank)
- X-ray Tetras (5, also intend to move to an overflow tank)
I would also like to get small oddballs like Thai Micro Crabs and other very small, weird live stock that are difficult to see. but provoke amazement when spotted. Similarly, I am constantly looking for both small and large unusual plants.
My Tank:
It is a 90 litre (60*40*40cm) tank with a Filtosmart Thermo 200 filter. I am injecting CO2 and currently dose with 'TNC Light', which contains potassium and magnesium
So far, I have not yet dosed with nitrates, but on @Wookii s' suggestion I have added 'TNC Complete' to my next shopping list. Also, I invested in a 'No Spill' water change system which, with my advancing years and mobility issues, makes changing water a breeze. In addition, the system means that water changes are minimally disruptive to both plants and livestock. In other words, I am fully set up to do daily water changes if necessary.
However, during all my planning, I got caught up in the current fashion of balancing livestock with nitrate absorbing plants to minimise water changes. As a result, aesthetically, I would find it very pleasing if I could find the sweet spot where the waste from the livestock provide the plants with the required nitrates.
My Dosing Questions:
Noting my primary plants are the Christmas and Weeping Moss,:
- What kind of level of nitrates should I be looking for? (As a noob, I have four test kits: Seachem nitrates, Aquarium Lab, API test strips, and JBL test strips. They all agree that with the new filter, my nitrate levels are hovering between 10 and 15 mg/l.)
- What is the best balance of nitrates between the livestocks' desire for zero nitrates and the plants nutritional requirements?
- Should I be thinking of putting grow tabs in the substrate?
- With time, patience, good observation and careful selection of plants, will it be possible to find the sweet spot where the bio-load provides all the required nitrates?
Thanks in advance for your valuable opinions.
Irvine