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Minerals for Shrimps

Aqua sobriquet

Aqua sobriquet

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Anyone know what the ingredients are for these type of things? Several companies make them and they all seem expensive?

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Shrimps Forever GH+ Mineral Powder 90 Grams | Shrimpland

Shrimps Forever GH+ mineral powder Shrimps Forever GH+ mineral powder has been specially developed for the remineralization of osmosis / rainwater for Caridina shrimps. By adding GH+ mineral powder to the new water, only the GH is increased, without affecting the kH and pH. In combination with a...
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We did a reminering sheet in the IFC calculator, which makes it very easy to make you own or clone a commercial product.

heres the list of the products you can clone
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Or just set your own parameters
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Heres the list of salts you can use
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Gives all the parameters, gH,kH,TDS, ppm etc and a cost breakdown and cost compare if cloning. Does solutions and dry dosing

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Any of the remineralising powders aimed at remineralising RO water to replicate the conditions required for Caridina shrimp raise only the GH and not the KH and ideally should be Carbonate and Bicarbonate free, that means some blend of Sulphates and/or Chlorides of Calcium and Magnesium.

Making your own remineraliser is dirt cheap, making a commercial remineralising product in branded packaging is also dirt cheap as your buying the salts at bulk prices and packaging and labelling likely becomes the largest expense.

Great for those that are starting out and learning and want ease of use or they may not want to stock up a ‘Potions’ cabinet!

🙂
 
Zeus. said:
We did a reminering sheet in the IFC calculator, which makes it very easy to make you own or clone a commercial product.

heres the list of the products you can clone
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Or just set your own parameters
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Heres the list of salts you can use
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Gives all the parameters, gH,kH,TDS, ppm etc and a cost breakdown and cost compare if cloning. Does solutions and dry dosing

View attachment 223671
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Not much help to me as I don’t use Excel, only Free Office.
 
X3NiTH said:
Any of the remineralising powders aimed at remineralising RO water to replicate the conditions required for Caridina shrimp raise only the GH and not the KH and ideally should be Carbonate and Bicarbonate free, that means some blend of Sulphates and/or Chlorides of Calcium and Magnesium.

Making your own remineraliser is dirt cheap, making a commercial remineralising product in branded packaging is also dirt cheap as your buying the salts at bulk prices and packaging and labelling likely becomes the largest expense.
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I don’t doubt, but without knowing what to buy and how much to use I don’t have the option.

I do use my own chemicals for plant fertiliser, as conveniently it’s written down on James’ Planted Tank.
Sadly no one seems to have done something similar for shrimp minerals.
 
From a thread of mine

[UWSL]MichaelJ[/UWSL] ​

He's a clued up chap who keeps shrimps ..
You don't need expensive salts. Considering the cherry shrimps only, you just need CaSO4 and MgSO4 to target ~27 ppm of Ca and ~9 ppm of Mg - this will yield a GH of ~6.0. The amount you need to add depends of course on the constituent of your tap water - its far easier to dose if you use RO water - if not you need to measure your GH and help from a reliable water report to make sure especially your Mg levels are not very low.

Cheers,
Michael
 
Aqua sobriquet said:
My tap water goes through a filter
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Hi, I noticed you posted the above on another thread today. Do you mind elaborating as to what type of filter you use as it might (or might not) have a large bearing on what you need to add to your water for shrimp and in some cases the filter itself might make the water unsuitable. Ion exchange resin can potentially be a problem, for example. I remember some other discussion about mixing tap and RO water and you said you had tried this but it was not very successful for shrimp in your case and wondered if it might be related?
 
Maf 2500 said:
Hi, I noticed you posted the above on another thread today. Do you mind elaborating as to what type of filter you use as it might (or might not) have a large bearing on what you need to add to your water for shrimp and in some cases the filter itself might make the water unsuitable. Ion exchange resin can potentially be a problem, for example. I remember some other discussion about mixing tap and RO water and you said you had tried this but it was not very successful for shrimp in your case and wondered if it might be related?
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It’s a Brita under sink filter.
I’ve been using the same regime of rain/tap water for years. Then some months ago the shrimp in one tank started dying off, but not in the other tank with the same mix of water.
I wasn’t bothered at the time as they were all natural coloured shrimp. I’d now like to get some Red Rili’s to replace them so don’t want them dying off. I’m not normally one for checking water but I’ve ordered a GH/KH test kit.

Edit: I’ve just suddenly realised the big change I made some time back. I switched from using Carbon to Purigen for removing the tannins from the bog wood. Could this be the reason?
 
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Purigen should not affect the shrimp.

Some of the Brita filters use ion exchange resin to strip out the hardness and heavy metals and replace them with sodium. That includes calcium and magnesium. It is worth checking which type of cartridge you use and whether it does this so you can plan accordingly.

It is also worth mentioning that most of the shrimp minerals you can buy are targeted at Caradina shrimp which require soft water. Rili's and other Neocaradina shrimp generally like it a bit harder and are usually fine in medium and hard tap water. Some types of rocks, such as Seiryu stone can also add hardness to the water, so it is possible for two tanks that receive the same water to have different water chemistry. The KH/GH test kit is a good idea.
 
Aqua sobriquet said:
Sadly no one seems to have done something similar for shrimp minerals.
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I have posted before -

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One recipe for remin agent Ca:Mg ratio 3:1
add
16 grams of Magnesium Sulphate Hepta aka -Epsom salts
and 17 Grams Calcium Chloride
To 1 litre of RO water
add 1ml of remin agent solution for every 1.0Litre added during WC will increase GH 1.0
If after a 3GH add 3ml per litre ...................

After a different Ca:Mg ratio -ask 😉
 
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