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I saw an interview the other day and it was suggested that mRNA technology is a solution for a problem that doesn’t exist. Existing, well proven and tested vaccine production has been more than adequate up until now and is still used for other vaccines. I won’t be having any more Covid vaccinations but what worries me is that there is now talk of using the same mRNA production method for other vaccines like Influenza and Shingles. Two vaccines that I would normally accept. I’m most definitely not anti vaccine, but I am sceptical of mRNA until it’s proven safe.
I'm genuinely not an anti vaxxer myself but I've lost count of how many times I've been accused of being one just by virtue of having been hospitalised by the covid mrna injections. I'm medically exempt now anyway but I wouldn't take another mrna shot under any circumstances.
 
Little, I don't think we should remove our comments, though I've also thought of doing so. There is a small minority of people who use the chit chat in this way, I suppose because they feel this is their place. It's only these posts that cause friction. Concerns are valid, given it comes a few weeks after the forum nearly collapsed due to conflicts that were personal and bitter. It's mostly the same few people causing these issues, out of a need to share their views. Why they don't share them in other places and stick to fish keeping and plants here I am unsure, but I doubt the off-topic channel was invented for this kind of 'debate'. For sure, sometimes the points are interesting, or valid, and it's perfectly true to say that any forum can be a place where people debate, but these threads are also the one place discord comes into this forum. That will continue to happen. It is off-putting. There's a balance to be struck between people who happen to feel they have a need or right to have debates, in whatever forum they happen to feel invested, and people who would like to ensure the forum thrives. It is a fact that sometimes it is damaging to our comradely discussions when people push forward their opinions about irrelevant topics. It's absolutely fine to insist on that freedom, but disingenuous to pretend damage will not be done.
 
Also, just to add, my impression is these threads make the most work for the volunteers who manage the forum. It's no easy task to decide which comment goes too far and personally I think that it puts them in an invidious position.
 
@AlecF It’s been months not weeks since I stepped down, and the forum is doing fine. And I seem to remember it was your post in a similar thread that had to be deleted for being offensive.

So it’s your line of reasoning that causes friction and extra work for the mods. I should know.

And furthermore, you’re ruining a perfectly good conversation by going down this route.

Please will you stop this, and I mean once and for all, it’s counterproductive. It would perhaps be nice to get the conversation back on topic.
 
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As of the time of writing the petition stands at 2,926,626
I suspect the majority of people signing the petition voted Labour in the 2024 GE and who feel betrayed.

Hi Tim, I'm not sure we can make that assumption just from the figure alone. There is a map on the petition which shows how each constituency has contributed to the total and although I haven't checked, it's been mentioned it's the tory leaning places that have higher percentages signing the petition. I think therefore it is more likely just an anti government backlash from the usual suspects.
 
I will just say as a bit of an outsider, having been away from the forum for quite some time and then returning to find a lot of things, seemingly beyond my knowledge, have taken place, I will just say the vibe has noticeably changed. It used to be a great place for heated discussion but it always seemed civil, more like a pub chat with the odd nutter in the background, but now it seems more ferocious which is worrying. The forum was the best because everyone respected each other but that seems to be eroding and personal vendettas are becoming more evident.

I was part of another forum that collapsed because the members disregarded the warnings of the team who ran the forum and caused so much work that they just deleted the whole thing. It would be a shame for this forum to even begin on that path.
 
Hi Tim, I'm not sure we can make that assumption just from the figure alone. There is a map on the petition which shows how each constituency has contributed to the total and although I haven't checked, it's been mentioned it's the tory leaning places that have higher percentages signing the petition. I think therefore it is more likely just an anti government backlash from the usual suspects.
Absolutely Mort, you could be right. Just thought I’d chuck it in for debate. Either way I’m looking forward to the actual debate on Jan 6
 
I worry that we have already lost some good contributors to the discussion of plants and fish keeping from the forum. People like Maq whose ideas were interesting and provocative in what I myself consider the right way.
 
Just stumbled on this election petition tracker on facebook.


Breakdown by constituency party, Labour 1,662,063 (57.59%) signatures and climbing.
Looks like the majority of those signing the petition are disgruntled Labour voters after all.

Next highest is Conservative with
697,063 (24.15%).
 
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