Oldguy
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Do insectivorous plants need to catch insects (& other small critters) to prosper?
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Does anyone have an indoor carnivorous plant garden?
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Hi all,
cheers Darrel
Varies a bit, Venus Fly trap (Dionaea muscipula) only eats live food, but most of the others can be fed with fish food flakes etc if they don't get any insects.
cheers Darrel
Robbie X
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I’m just browsing the Hampshire website and looking at the compost etc. I was under the impression there should be a gravel layer under the compost and moss.
I don’t see any gravel on the site so I’m assuming I am mistaken?
I don’t see any gravel on the site so I’m assuming I am mistaken?
Robbie X
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Love the flowers on this. I’ll try to avoid the more complex species until I can care for them properl.Hi all,
They are easy to grow for a CP. They don't need acid growing conditions and they are much more forgiving of <"less than perfect growing conditions">. I started with one leaf (they will grow from a leaf cutting) and have quite a few now. One is just beginning to flower now.
Some of the <"epiphytic Utricularia spp. are really orchid like">, unfortunately they are difficult to grow. I think Marcel (@zozo ) has his eye on <"U. alpina"> which maybe more amenable to careful cultivation.
This one is the gorgeous U. campbelliana
cheers Darrel
zozo
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I've had it a while back. it grew well for about 1.5 years in my Paludarium setup among several others, but for some reason, they slowly died. My best guess is it doesn't like mineralized water. Even placed rather high above the water level, it seems minerals are simply soaked up into their soil if it has contact. I also notice salt deposits on the emerging driftwood. It soaks up into the wood and it builds up to its surface. In the picture, you can see a white stain on the wood under the Bromelia. That's how it starts and get more to worse, that Bromelia also did not survive it.
The one with some yellowish leaves at the left is U. Alpina, it's a rather large Utricularia compared to the rest of them. It also grows fat bladders above the soil.
The Utricularia sp. I'm still growing today is all in a Wardian case and in another terrarium setup and solely fed with demineralized water. I've kept a few outside the case on the window sill for a while. But also this is rather tricky and sensitive the slightest neglect whit not sufficiently watering for a few days and it's over. Thus indeed they all require very careful cultivation.
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Greengeek
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ive never used a gravel layer, the water table in my cp collections are always so high it make them obsolet, plus you would need to make sure you had a inert, mineral free gravel.
gravel is used in some houseplants to raise humidity but as most cps like to sit in a inch (or more) of water like a bog the gravel would be submersed.
Greengeek
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Been searching my photo archives and I found photos of my 300l tropical carnivorous plant paludarium from 2016/2018. I had growlights, cool mist, fans. I remember it was a lot of trial and error and many of species I kept loved high light, high humidity, but really good ventilation and cool conditions which was not easy to replicate.
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Robbie X
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I’m struggling to find really shallow tank. I need something around 100cm length 20cm wide and 10cm high.
Anyone know where I could get something with these sort of dimension?
Anyone know where I could get something with these sort of dimension?
NatalieHurrell
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Closest I know of is 79 x 29.7 x 24.5cm (Ciano 80 Tartarium), but guess that's not much help!
Have you contacted custom tank builders for a quote?
Also, humidity being a key factor in terrariums is something to consider
zozo
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Mr Aqua 12 Gallon long maybe?
Mr Aqua 12 gallon long rimless aquarium review - Aquatic Magazine
Mr Aqua 12 Gallon Long Aquarium With rimless aquariums becoming the main trend, Mr Aqua introduced to the market a unique dimensional rimless aquarium that is 12 gallons long. Now I personally ordered one to see what the rave was all about and if it’s even worth my time aquascaping it. The...
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Serene (12 GAL) Rimless Glass Aquarium - Mr. Aqua
Description Features: Non-tempered glass panels Extra fine silicone finish 1 year manufacturer's warranty on craftsmanship Serene Specifications: Dimensions: 35.4" x 8.3" x 9.4". 12 Gallons Float Glass v. Low-Iron Float glass is standard glass, whereas low-iron composition softens the typical...
Actually, no idea where to source them in Europe. I believe ADA has a 12G long too in their collection. Find an ADA dealer.
Or as a custom build... 🙂 Or DIY it... The main issue you will run into with these dimensions is the cabinet you're going to put it on. It needs to be perfectly flat. Glass, even tho it feels hard it's still extremely flexible in long narrow and shallow dimensions, and the smallest contortion will put constant strain on the joints. Leaving you with the risk that they will rip open one day. Thus the cabinet is equally important as the tank construction it needs to be spot on.
I once did build a tank in 120x30x20cm but missing the cabinet for it and solved the issue by using a 25mm thick plywood bottom panel. And gave it 4 corner feet and 6 adjustable feet with threaded inserts in the wood divided in between the corners. Then it can be placed on any surface and levelled.
Bottoms bottom with adjustable feed.
At the bottom panels top, I made slots 2mm wider than the glass thickness and as deep as the glass thickness. Thus if the glass is 6mm the slot should be at least 8mm wide and 6mm deep. This is all-around the edge of the wooden panel about 10mm from the side. Then cover the plywood with a sufficient layer of epoxy coating.
The topside of bottom panel, slotted and coated with the glass panels in as a first fit.
Sealed and filled with water.
Epoxy after 7 days curring is 100% waterproof and strong as glass... To protect it from any scratching from the substrate place a piece of pond foil over the bottom. You will not see when the substrate is in.
You could go easier on yourself by using 3 panels of slotted epoxy coated plywood and it will be even stronger.
Then put in a glass front and back panel sealed in the slots.
You can go any dimension with this and is extremely durable and relatively cheap and easy to DIY.
That last one I made in 2017 for outdoor use and still is in use today... 🙂
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zozo
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That would be the ADA -F Serie...
120-F x 30 x 20 cm
90-F x 30 x 20 cm
60-F x 30 x18 cm
Not sure if it's still made and available. But at one time they were rather popular and something new.
www.aquariumgardens.co.uk
James Findley used this shallow tanks quite a few times
Both ADA 120F
www.thegreenmachineonline.com
www.thegreenmachineonline.com
ADA 60F
www.ukaps.org
Fire Aqua 1500 x 210 x 240
www.ukaps.org
120-F x 30 x 20 cm
90-F x 30 x 20 cm
60-F x 30 x18 cm
Not sure if it's still made and available. But at one time they were rather popular and something new.
Glass Aquarium Aquascaping Tanks from Aquarium Gardens - Dennerle, Clearseal Edgeline
ekm location ekm location Available for store collection we have a selection of aquariums that are perfect for planted aquariums and aquascaping We
James Findley used this shallow tanks quite a few times
Both ADA 120F
Crimson Sky Aquascape by James Findley- Journal
This is one of James’ shallow display aquariums for The Green Machine. Note James’ pioneering use of terrestrial moss on the fossilised wood above the surface of the water. Full details…
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Aquascape Tutorial Video: Simplicity by James Findley
In this article you’ll find a photo and video step-by-step tutorial for a shallow format aquascape, along with a setup specification detailing all of the aquarium plants, hardscape and equipm…
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ADA 60F
ADA 60F, Matura Trail
Hello, figured I would show my little shallow scape. For a bit of context, I helped my Dad set up a big planted tank, which has been a learning process and still takes a lot of time to maintain. Excuse the external link...
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Fire Aqua 1500 x 210 x 240
5ft Bookshelf Aquarium - River Scape
I am in the planing stage of creating a High flow river scape, some details below, still planning, if any one has advice on creating high flow river scape please post, this is new to me, its very interesting to learn about a new aspect of this hobby. Tank - Fire Aqua 1500 x 210 x 240, 10mm low...
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mort
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Since its such a low volume it would simple enough to diy from acrylic if you are up for it. You could go for glass which is what I've always built my tanks from but people seem more comfortable with acrylic as you simply stick it together and don't have to worry about neatness as much. You should be able to get a quote for the cut pieces of either material and then just get a quote from an aquarium manufacturer to see if it's worth the hassle of building it yourself.
Robbie X
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Many thanks. I had seen these when I searched for shallow aquarium. It’s a shame the width is to wide as I like that little partial lid to elevate a species that has low hanging tubers🙁
Robbie X
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Tank builder was next if I could not find one off the shelf. Good point about humidity. Maybe a couple of small sheets of glass so I could get it just right?
Robbie X
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I’m afraid diy would be a last resort. I have just moved house and my new place was a hell of a mess so I’m doing one room at the time. Living room and hall are done but I still have upstairs landing, 2 bedroom, 2 bathrooms and a kitchen to do. It’s a shame the mr Aqua and the other tank are not available in the uk. A bit shorter in length than I wanted but otherwise perfect.Mr Aqua 12 Gallon long maybe?
Mr Aqua 12 gallon long rimless aquarium review - Aquatic Magazine
Mr Aqua 12 Gallon Long Aquarium With rimless aquariums becoming the main trend, Mr Aqua introduced to the market a unique dimensional rimless aquarium that is 12 gallons long. Now I personally ordered one to see what the rave was all about and if it’s even worth my time aquascaping it. The...
Serene (12 GAL) Rimless Glass Aquarium - Mr. Aqua
Description Features: Non-tempered glass panels Extra fine silicone finish 1 year manufacturer's warranty on craftsmanship Serene Specifications: Dimensions: 35.4" x 8.3" x 9.4". 12 Gallons Float Glass v. Low-Iron Float glass is standard glass, whereas low-iron composition softens the typical...aqualabaquaria.com
Actually, no idea where to source them in Europe. I believe ADA has a 12G long too in their collection. Find an ADA dealer.
Or as a custom build... 🙂 Or DIY it... The main issue you will run into with these dimensions is the cabinet you're going to put it on. It needs to be perfectly flat. Glass, even tho it feels hard it's still extremely flexible in long narrow and shallow dimensions, and the smallest contortion will put constant strain on the joints. Leaving you with the risk that they will rip open one day. Thus the cabinet is equally important as the tank construction it needs to be spot on.
I once did build a tank in 120x30x20cm but missing the cabinet for it and solved the issue by using a 25mm thick plywood bottom panel. And gave it 4 corner feet and 6 adjustable feet with threaded inserts in the wood divided in between the corners. Then it can be placed on any surface and levelled.
Bottoms bottom with adjustable feed.
At the bottom panels top, I made slots 2mm wider than the glass thickness and as deep as the glass thickness. Thus if the glass is 6mm the slot should be at least 8mm wide and 6mm deep. This is all-around the edge of the wooden panel about 10mm from the side. Then cover the plywood with a sufficient layer of epoxy coating.
The topside of bottom panel, slotted and coated with the glass panels in as a first fit.
Sealed and filled with water.
Epoxy after 7 days curring is 100% waterproof and strong as glass... To protect it from any scratching from the substrate place a piece of pond foil over the bottom. You will not see when the substrate is in.
You could go easier on yourself by using 3 panels of slotted epoxy coated plywood and it will be even stronger.
Then put in a glass front and back panel sealed in the slots.
You can go any dimension with this and is extremely durable and relatively cheap and easy to DIY.
That last one I made in 2017 for outdoor use and still is in use today... 🙂
Robbie X
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Good idea. I’ll price up the cut glass and compare to any quotes I get from tank builders.
Robbie X
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Does the Paludarium help with humidity or is it to enable a gradient?
Garuf
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Krueger akvaristic (spelling) the German seller has their own versions of 45 60 90 and 120f that might nearly fit the bill?
www.krueger-aquaristik.de
Clear Garden 45F, Weißglasaquarium flach 45 x 30 x 20 cm
Weißglasaquarium in Poolbauweise, aus Opti-White Glas, Stärke 6 mm, transparent verklebt, ohne Stege. Volumen ca. 24 Liter
www.krueger-aquaristik.de
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Robbie X
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Many thanks. I’ll check them out 🙏
