DaveWatkin
Member
That's good to know, the one I have mentioned above is garbage. Currently just using the regulator to control.
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CO2 Needle Valve Recommendation . . .
- Thread starter Wookii
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This is literally the exact information I needed. I am having the same experience with my co2 art needle valve. If you so much as LOOK at it too hard, the bubble rate shifts into ridiculously low or dangerously high levels. It also creeps up and down when nobody's looking, which I find extremely disturbing, considering the time effort and money in that tank.
So, I took your advice and bought this Camozzi one off Co2 Supermarket https://www.co2supermarket.co.uk/precision-camozzi-flow-controller-customiser-p331.html
I went for configuration B-A, hope that's right...!
It arrives tomorrow. I'm sure this will be a great help and all thanks to UKAPS!
(I'm especially pleased about the locking nut feature, so when it's set, it's set...)
I'll report back with my findings for future people in the same situation.
Thanks guys!
So, I took your advice and bought this Camozzi one off Co2 Supermarket https://www.co2supermarket.co.uk/precision-camozzi-flow-controller-customiser-p331.html
I went for configuration B-A, hope that's right...!
It arrives tomorrow. I'm sure this will be a great help and all thanks to UKAPS!
(I'm especially pleased about the locking nut feature, so when it's set, it's set...)
I'll report back with my findings for future people in the same situation.
Thanks guys!
Naturescapes-Rocco
New Member
Did you end up setting this up? How did it work for you? Thanks!
MrClockOff
Member
I ended up using BARSTOCK METERING VALVE. code VM1-BB-6A bought from Home - Cache which is actually the same as VM1-BB-6A : Aalborg
It costed about £100 but it is worth every penny. 3 years in service and no faults so far. Tried Camozzi prior the above one but wasn’t impressed with precision - returned for refund.
It costed about £100 but it is worth every penny. 3 years in service and no faults so far. Tried Camozzi prior the above one but wasn’t impressed with precision - returned for refund.
Interesting thread. I have a CO2 art regulator and also have the issue of fine adjustment. It can also be very temperamental in that i can set a bubble rate which I'm happy with and when its turned off overnight via the solenoid, it comes back on at a very different rate!
Bradders
Member
Does it settle down after 10 mins to the normal rate?
Nope. Very annoying. At times i've set the rate to what i think on one day, come back the next and its either overdoing or barely bubbling at all! I now switch it off and on a few times over a few hours to confirm the rate before i leave it unattended
Bradders
Member
That is annoying - and worrying. I use a dual stage Strideways and its pretty solid.
FrozenShivers
Member
Might be worth contacting CO2Art and seeing if they’ll help out at all.
It has a better needle valve for sure.
MrClockOff
Member
This usually mean you have a leak.
When I was using original needle valve I found that once it warms up from solenoid it releases more gas. Metal expansion from the heat?
Another thumbs up here for Strideways, pretty solid and the needle valve is superior
I have but it was some way out of warantee. They did offer about 20% off one of they new generation regulators but i figured i'll just work with it.
I have bad experience with CO2Art too, just bought Pro-Elite regulator and can't have stable bubble rate from day to day.
I tried to push needle valve knob (no turn!) and it closes CO2 almost completely and sometimes stays at that position, sometimes returns back. video
When I try to pull it (after push) it makes sound and jumps like 1 mm out and bubble rate goes crazy.
Is it normal??? It is loose and just has too much space to travel!
Each time solenoid goes on needle valve "opens" at random point and I have different CO2 bps
First answer from CO2 support:
I want to assure you that everything is okay. Regarding the needle valve, it is designed to be turned to adjust your bubble rate. If you push it with your finger, you are manually forcing the needle to close the CO2 flow, but the needle valve is not meant to be pushed.
I tried to push needle valve knob (no turn!) and it closes CO2 almost completely and sometimes stays at that position, sometimes returns back. video
When I try to pull it (after push) it makes sound and jumps like 1 mm out and bubble rate goes crazy.
Is it normal??? It is loose and just has too much space to travel!
Each time solenoid goes on needle valve "opens" at random point and I have different CO2 bps
First answer from CO2 support:
I want to assure you that everything is okay. Regarding the needle valve, it is designed to be turned to adjust your bubble rate. If you push it with your finger, you are manually forcing the needle to close the CO2 flow, but the needle valve is not meant to be pushed.
Yes ..don't push it ..I have bad experience with CO2Art too, just bought Pro-Elite regulator and can't have stable bubble rate from day to day.
I tried to push needle valve knob (no turn!) and it closes CO2 almost completely and sometimes stays at that position, sometimes returns back. video
When I try to pull it (after push) it makes sound and jumps like 1 mm out and bubble rate goes crazy.
Is it normal??? It is loose and just has too much space to travel!
Each time solenoid goes on needle valve "opens" at random point and I have different CO2 bps
First answer from CO2 support:
I want to assure you that everything is okay. Regarding the needle valve, it is designed to be turned to adjust your bubble rate. If you push it with your finger, you are manually forcing the needle to close the CO2 flow, but the needle valve is not meant to be pushed.
Anyways that may be slop in the thread. Pressure pushes it to on side of the land ..your finger the opposite side..
Anyways ..no don't push it.
Nor screw it in tight either. Generally not designed as a shutoff valve.
You want zero bubbles ..solenoid or main valve.
The SMC AS-1000-M5's ( used in line with hose barbs) are highly regarded on my side of the pond.
That said they are no Swagloc, Hoke, or Aalborg. Or whatever equiv you have over here.
I'm trying to remember if I have a Cammozi somewhere.
One thing I did that made me feel better ( since each was under $10US) was run 2 in series.
Seemed to add a bit more " finesse" to the control.
Granted it's odd and not sure there is any real world benefit but....worked for me.
Note though my CO2 usage on that tank was quite low..
Under 1bps.
That said they are no Swagloc, Hoke, or Aalborg. Or whatever equiv you have over here.
I'm trying to remember if I have a Cammozi somewhere.
One thing I did that made me feel better ( since each was under $10US) was run 2 in series.
Seemed to add a bit more " finesse" to the control.
Granted it's odd and not sure there is any real world benefit but....worked for me.
Note though my CO2 usage on that tank was quite low..
Under 1bps.
Aqua sobriquet
Member
That’s an interesting idea. Can you post a picture of your setup for others to see.
Shouldn't it be rock solid, without any space to travel? Now I'm even afraid to take out CO2 cylinder as any vibration can affect floating needle valve.
Such a disappointment for 200€
Also added Camozzi, but to dial in like 3bps, you need to damage it by force closing over it's limits (min flow rate 3L/min) not even talking about fine tuning
