It wasn't pretty big but it was pretty full hahaha I will eventually have plenty for forum members also once its starts growing, just didn't want to destry the wall in my main tank to do this one, wouldn't be enough anyway. Just ask Ed and I am sure next time he has some more he will send you some for a donation 😉aaronnorth said:how big was the envolope? Jus ased him if he would put me down on the lists?