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Stocking Help Please?

Yes they should be fine with corydoras.
Ok, good. I still need to see if I can source some in the dead of winter lol.

And, do you think the Espeis will leave the Amanos alone? I picked them as they are supposed to be very mellow/non-aggressive and they are great with the Corys so, I assume it will be ok?
For keeping moss clean I'd blast them out with a turkey baster at Water change every week. That seems to do the trick. Amanos will help as well.
Yes, I do my best but as you likely know, moss is really easy to damage, especially when it is freshly tied or glued to something so I'd like to have the cleaning crew do more of the biofilm and moss cleanup. I hate when I just get some beautiful growth formed and then I damage it or break it free from its spot trying to clean it and have to tie it on and start all over. Hopefully a small team of Amanos or something else can help keep the moss and plants pristine without me messing it up all of the time lol.
 
And, do you think the Espeis will leave the Amanos alone? I picked them as they are supposed to be very mellow/non-aggressive and they are great with the Corys so, I assume it will be ok?
Should be fine, amanos are massive! My biggest got to almost 2 inches.
 
Should be fine, amanos are massive! My biggest got to almost 2 inches.
Ok, good to know. Thanks👍.

Just to explore some other options, how would Siamese Algae Eaters and Otocinclus compare to Amanos as a member of my cleanup crew to target mainly plant/moss biofilm and algae/diatoms?
 
Ok, good to know. Thanks👍.

Just to explore some other options, how would Siamese Algae Eaters and Otocinclus compare to Amanos as a member of my cleanup crew to target mainly plant/moss biofilm and algae/diatoms?
I wouldn't recommend otos, they are quite finnicky and hard to feed. Siamese algae eaters do get a bit too big Imo and it wouldn't be fair to keep one that you know will outgrow the tank.

That being said I do love my school of otoconclus in my low tech, they feed on zucchini, spinach, algae wafers, and even just regular flake. I would still recommend amano over them due to the fact that they often carry parasites.
 
I wouldn't recommend otos, they are quite finnicky and hard to feed. Siamese algae eaters do get a bit too big Imo and it wouldn't be fair to keep one that you know will outgrow the tank.
Ok, good to know thanks.
That being said I do love my school of otoconclus in my low tech, they feed on zucchini, spinach, algae wafers, and even just regular flake. I would still recommend amano over them due to the fact that they often carry parasites.
Ok, thanks for the recommendation and added info👍.

Is there anything else I should be considering? What about just throwing a bunch of Neocaridina Davidi in there? I am attempting to breed some Blue Velvets in my plant propagation tank as we speak. If they take off I should have plenty to add.
 
Ok, good to know thanks.

Ok, thanks for the recommendation and added info👍.

Is there anything else I should be considering? What about just throwing a bunch of Neocaridina Davidi in there? I am attempting to breed some Blue Velvets in my plant propagation tank as we speak. If they take off I should have plenty to add.
Small neocaridina shrimp will eat algae, but in my experience they only eat it before it takes hold, kind of like a preventative measure.to actually get rid of algae that's already existing amanos are your best bet.
 
I’ve found Amano’s to be pretty robust and at full growth are as big or bigger than most of my fish. 😂 so unless you get teeny tiny youngsters, I should think they will be just fine.

They are fairly long lived for a shrimp (2-3yrs) so, although they won’t breed, you don’t have to worry about replacing them too often.

Neocaridina will breed if your parameters are good for them and, if you set up a colony in another tank and then add slightly larger adult/sub adults to your main tank, you can worry less about predation. (Even if you subsequently lose a percentage of their offspring) As PND says, however, they are less effective at removing algae once it’s in growth.

I have around 20 Amano’s and probably 150 Cherry’s in the same tank, without iddues, so one doesn’t necessarily preclude the other, but, tbf, it is a much larger tank!
 
Small neocaridina shrimp will eat algae, but in my experience they only eat it before it takes hold, kind of like a preventative measure.to actually get rid of algae that's already existing amanos are your best bet.
Copy that. I have never had algae "take hold" or at least not to any degree in any of my tanks so they are more planned as a preventative measure and just for general plant health(I have way, way too many leaves to ever clean biofilm reliably off of them and a metric tonne of moss too, 5 different types just in this tank). I have some filamentous diatoms growing in some of my Christmas Moss too that I would like to stay on top of even though I know they will likely get better as the tank seasons(it's only 1.5 months old at this point). The Blue Velvet's are just easy as I already have them in stock.

Ok, I'm going to try and find some Amanos I think then. I am a little worried though as there are so many imposters sold as the real deal apparently. Any suggestions to avoid getting sold counterfeit Amanos lol?
 
I’ve found Amano’s to be pretty robust and at full growth are as big or bigger than most of my fish. 😂 so unless you get teeny tiny youngsters, I should think they will be just fine.
Yeah, I don't think there will be an issue. My tiny little Espeis are the only real concern and they seam pretty docile(they hang out with the Cory's when they are eating lol).
They are fairly long lived for a shrimp (2-3yrs) so, although they won’t breed, you don’t have to worry about replacing them too often.
That's good to know.
Neocaridina will breed if your parameters are good for them and, if you set up a colony in another tank and then add slightly larger adult/sub adults to your main tank, you can worry less about predation. (Even if you subsequently lose a percentage of their offspring) As PND says, however, they are less effective at removing algae once it’s in growth.
Copy that, thanks for the added info👍.
I have around 20 Amano’s and probably 150 Cherry’s in the same tank, without iddues, so one doesn’t necessarily preclude the other, but, tbf, it is a much larger tank!
Also good to know. I am considering adding some Amanos to my plant propagation/Neocaridina Davidi breeding tank as well.

Thanks for your help Kristy👍.
 
No probs. The Amano’s are greedy beggars so if you add them to your shrimp tank, I would advise multiple ‘small’ food as a staple. ie shrimp pellets or dice your veggies. If you put just one or two pieces of veg in, they will be the only ones sitting on them!!

Mine will happily nick a whole catfish pellet from pretty much under the catfish’s nose and run off with it. 😂
 
No probs. The Amano’s are greedy beggars so if you add them to your shrimp tank, I would advise multiple ‘small’ food as a staple. ie shrimp pellets or dice your veggies. If you put just one or two pieces of veg in, they will be the only ones sitting on them!!
Ok, thanks for the advice. I hear they are a bit feisty. Shouldn't be a problem as I feed a very diverse diet and have 2 different feeding locations in the tank as well as add a Glassgarten Shrimp Baby dusting to another area.
Mine will happily nick a whole catfish pellet from pretty much under the catfish’s nose and run off with it. 😂
Lol, those buggers. I love my Cory's so they better leave em alone or will get a blast of water from the coral feeder😂...
 
I wouldn't worry about the espei with amano at all. Ime they are really great tankmates for even tiny shrimp and I've never witnessed them predating any (not to say they won't be opportunistic though). I have seen normal harlequins attack and kill neo's though on more than one occasion.

Siamese algae eaters get quite big, can be aggressive and get very lazy as they age, so I wouldnt add them to this tank. They are much better in large aquaria.
 
Ok, I think I am going to try some Amanos. So, how small of a minimum group size should I keep them in to give them a good life? I'm thinking of adding some to both my 20 & 16 US Gallon community tanks so I would only like to add a small number to each if possible since they get so big.
 
I’ve found the advice on this to be pretty varied but, 2 - 3 gallons per shrimp seems to be around the number and they do better in a small group so……10 gallons - 4 or less, 20 gallons - 6 or less, might be a reasonable place to start.

I’ve tended to have bigger tanks (30 gallons min) though, so can’t say that’s based on personal experience per se!
 
I’ve found the advice on this to be pretty varied but, 2 - 3 gallons per shrimp seems to be around the number and they do better in a small group so……10 gallons - 4 or less, 20 gallons - 6 or less, might be a reasonable place to start.

I’ve tended to have bigger tanks (30 gallons min) though, so can’t say that’s based on personal experience per se!

Oh gosh, @KirstyF don't tell that to my cheery (mostly) shrimps :lol: - at the rate they have been propagating there must be hundreds of varying sizes in my 40 Gallon tank - they do seem to have slowed down a bit though... 😉

That wont happen with Amanos as the larvae will need brackish/salty water shortly after birth in order to survive and grow.

Cheers,
Michael
 
Oh gosh, @KirstyF don't tell that to my cheery (mostly) shrimps :lol: - at the rate they have been propagating there must be hundreds of varying sizes in my 40 Gallon tank - they do seem to have slowed down a bit though... 😉

That wont happen with Amanos as the larvae will need brackish/salty water shortly after birth in order to survive and grow.

Cheers,
Michael

😂 Yeah, cherries are certainly prolific. I suspect I likely hit 200 in my 30 gallon before I decide to scoop out some of the more mature ones and move them on to the giant tank. Did my second transfer of around 50 last weekend and they just keep on breeding!! No idea how many are in the big tank now. They breed there too but in lower numbers due to predation of babies I’m sure.

Amano’s I think are a bit more bullish as adults if you have too many.
 
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