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Sedona - 20L (Liza's Tank - Update)
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Re: Liza's 20L Nano Tank
superb stone and great tank ebfore as I hadnt seen this thread before.
first layout for me 🙂
superb stone and great tank ebfore as I hadnt seen this thread before.
first layout for me 🙂
aaronnorth
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Re: Liza's 20L Nano Tank
wow, impressive layout, #1 for me as it i like the rocks in the background which are like distant mountains
wow, impressive layout, #1 for me as it i like the rocks in the background which are like distant mountains
taylsimon
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Re: Liza's 20L Nano Tank
Totally agreee #1 for me, the look like a mountain range in the distance, beautiful rocks.
Simon.
Totally agreee #1 for me, the look like a mountain range in the distance, beautiful rocks.
Simon.
keymaker
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Re: Liza's 20L Nano Tank
Thank you all! I like no. 1 too, so here's the deal:
(Stu, I have your 60cm as desktop background on my 24" - stunning!)
Thank you all! I like no. 1 too, so here's the deal:
(Stu, I have your 60cm as desktop background on my 24" - stunning!)
Fred Dulley
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Re: Liza's 20L Nano Tank
Fantastic hardscape. A rocky mountain landscape in a tank. 8)
Fantastic hardscape. A rocky mountain landscape in a tank. 8)
Re: Liza's 20L Nano Tank
wow! cheers keymaker 😀
Should have an update on that one soon. its had a big chop as it was getting too overgrown causing a lack of flow
keymaker said:
wow! cheers keymaker 😀
Should have an update on that one soon. its had a big chop as it was getting too overgrown causing a lack of flow
flygja
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Re: Liza's 20L Nano Tank
Those are some really nice rocks. My only comment is on the smallest 2 rocks, one in the front middle and one on the left. They're too small. They look good now, but once the plants have grown in, they will be totally covered. Even a HC carpet will cover it unless you meticulously trim trim trim all the time and keep it thin.
Carrying fish from another country in a thermos, now that is something
Those are some really nice rocks. My only comment is on the smallest 2 rocks, one in the front middle and one on the left. They're too small. They look good now, but once the plants have grown in, they will be totally covered. Even a HC carpet will cover it unless you meticulously trim trim trim all the time and keep it thin.
Carrying fish from another country in a thermos, now that is something
Themuleous
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Re: Liza's 20L Nano Tank
Nice scape, the big bold rocks should look cool once planted up 🙂
Sam
Nice scape, the big bold rocks should look cool once planted up 🙂
Sam
keymaker
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Re: Liza's 20L Nano Tank
Exactly! I was actually thinking of replacing them with slightly bigger ones as the FG fills in. I only used these particular pebbles to accentuate those points in the empty scape. I have about 30 kg of Hanko stones available for this 3-4 kg. scape. 😉flygja said:
zig
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Re: Liza's 20L Nano Tank
Great rocks, exceptionally good. Nice work on the hardscape so far. I will be interested to see it planted/finished. One to watch for sure.
Great rocks, exceptionally good. Nice work on the hardscape so far. I will be interested to see it planted/finished. One to watch for sure.
Superman
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Re: Liza's 20L Nano Tank
Wowaweewa, some stonking rocks there.
Where did you get the hanko stones from?
Wowaweewa, some stonking rocks there.
Where did you get the hanko stones from?
LondonDragon
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Re: Liza's 20L Nano Tank
Now were can I get rocks like those??? hehe truly amazing rock work 🙂 congrats
Now were can I get rocks like those??? hehe truly amazing rock work 🙂 congrats
keymaker
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Re: Liza's 20L Nano Tank
Cheers guys, thanks!
Here's the deal with Hanko stones: I just got into my car and drove about 10 hours (no, actually 12-13 hours, two days) east to the Carphatians in Romania. I spent 8 days there to visit some really remote locations recommended by some exceptionally dedicated local geologists. I was looking for some stones that would be volcanic but also rugged and interesting shape - which is a very rare thing.
Problem is that nature (wind and water) forms the most interesting shapes out of loose-structured rock. Like chalk. This is mostly unusable for our purposes for it hardens the water too much. Even Seiryu stones are chalky - just not that much.
The other problem is that most volcanic rocks just erode to dull shapes. Not the Hanko stones though. They have some narrow chalky veins that were mostly washed away in time and that gives a most interesting look. Believe me - it's very rare. I was extremely lucky to find them in the distant forests of Romania - far away from civilization.
So I took some 50 kg-s back in my car - hoping customs will not consider it "theft of national resources" or something. My second fishkeeping-related "crime" in a year - where does that take me? Backsliding? 😀
I plan to get the permits and start selling them later in our webshop. Difficulty is that the location (I can only find it with GPS) is really far away even from the nearest dirt-roads. Plus I have to carefully hand-pick these from a larger area - covering several hills. So it's gonna take some time, money and sherpas to get it - but it'll happen eventually and will be available for anybody who is inspired by the Hanko style. 🙂
Here's the the huge 33 kg and 45 cm high stone that I've been carrying and dragging down sweating for ages. You can see the actual color when wet. It's gonna go into my future 180 cm optiwhite tank. If I live to see it 🙂.
Cheers guys, thanks!
Here's the deal with Hanko stones: I just got into my car and drove about 10 hours (no, actually 12-13 hours, two days) east to the Carphatians in Romania. I spent 8 days there to visit some really remote locations recommended by some exceptionally dedicated local geologists. I was looking for some stones that would be volcanic but also rugged and interesting shape - which is a very rare thing.
Problem is that nature (wind and water) forms the most interesting shapes out of loose-structured rock. Like chalk. This is mostly unusable for our purposes for it hardens the water too much. Even Seiryu stones are chalky - just not that much.
The other problem is that most volcanic rocks just erode to dull shapes. Not the Hanko stones though. They have some narrow chalky veins that were mostly washed away in time and that gives a most interesting look. Believe me - it's very rare. I was extremely lucky to find them in the distant forests of Romania - far away from civilization.
keymaker said:
SuperColey1 said:
So I took some 50 kg-s back in my car - hoping customs will not consider it "theft of national resources" or something. My second fishkeeping-related "crime" in a year - where does that take me? Backsliding? 😀
I plan to get the permits and start selling them later in our webshop. Difficulty is that the location (I can only find it with GPS) is really far away even from the nearest dirt-roads. Plus I have to carefully hand-pick these from a larger area - covering several hills. So it's gonna take some time, money and sherpas to get it - but it'll happen eventually and will be available for anybody who is inspired by the Hanko style. 🙂
Here's the the huge 33 kg and 45 cm high stone that I've been carrying and dragging down sweating for ages. You can see the actual color when wet. It's gonna go into my future 180 cm optiwhite tank. If I live to see it 🙂.
JamesM
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Re: Liza's 20L Nano Tank
Wow 😀 That's some stunning stone!
Wow 😀 That's some stunning stone!
aaronnorth
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Re: Liza's 20L Nano Tank
wow,
wow,
keymaker
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Re: Liza's 20L Nano Tank
OK, so I've never ever dedicated so much thought and DIY skills-practice to any tank component as to aeration lately.
Looks like I'm stuck here:
There is no technology in the tank except the glass in- and outflow. This obviously means I have to introduce air through the external filter hosing. Let me tell you what my problems are:
1. Air pumps are too noisy. I tried Tetra, Ferplast, Schego (on timer at night). The later is the best of all, but still too noisy for my daughter sleeping right next to the tank. An 50 lph Ferplast would be ok soundwise, but the filter pressure is too strong for this size of an airpump and no bubbles enter through the Tee on the filter hose.
2. The AquaMedic 12/16 and 4/6 Tee is garbage. The 4/6 end is made of soft plastic, I already broke 2 Tees in the process of dealing with hose changes - so I gave this up. Plus it produces bigger bubbles that make too much noise when entering into the tank and coming to the surface.
3. Tried a normal 12/16 Tee with an airstone glued to one end - same result: bubbles too big - too much noise.
4. I tried many products and there is no way to use an air-pump with a CO2 diffuser (internal or external of any kind) to produce smaller bubbles. They are obviously designed for bigger pressures.
Silence is the most important issue here.
Any ideas? Any products you recommend (like an external O2 reactor)?
OK, so I've never ever dedicated so much thought and DIY skills-practice to any tank component as to aeration lately.
Looks like I'm stuck here:
There is no technology in the tank except the glass in- and outflow. This obviously means I have to introduce air through the external filter hosing. Let me tell you what my problems are:
1. Air pumps are too noisy. I tried Tetra, Ferplast, Schego (on timer at night). The later is the best of all, but still too noisy for my daughter sleeping right next to the tank. An 50 lph Ferplast would be ok soundwise, but the filter pressure is too strong for this size of an airpump and no bubbles enter through the Tee on the filter hose.
2. The AquaMedic 12/16 and 4/6 Tee is garbage. The 4/6 end is made of soft plastic, I already broke 2 Tees in the process of dealing with hose changes - so I gave this up. Plus it produces bigger bubbles that make too much noise when entering into the tank and coming to the surface.
3. Tried a normal 12/16 Tee with an airstone glued to one end - same result: bubbles too big - too much noise.
4. I tried many products and there is no way to use an air-pump with a CO2 diffuser (internal or external of any kind) to produce smaller bubbles. They are obviously designed for bigger pressures.
Silence is the most important issue here.
Any ideas? Any products you recommend (like an external O2 reactor)?
keymaker
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Re: Liza's 20L Nano Tank
It looks like there is no solution on the market for this......
I did not mean silence on this forum. 😀keymaker said:
It looks like there is no solution on the market for this......
