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Programmable led floodlights

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Hi guys, just wondering if anyone has ever managed to add a programmable controller (possibly WiFi/smartphone compatible) to standard dimmable led floodlights?
Been looking at floodlights for my big tank (6x2x2) and hoping to get some control over their schedule.
Cheers
 
So after hours of searching, this seems to be the most suitable I have been able to find for now
Pros;
• Dimmable 0-10V
• 50/75/100W output (switchable)
• CRI 82
• 5700K colour temp
• 5 year warranty
Cons;
•120 degree lens angle (however, my current light is only 150mm above water line)
•Unit is 150mm tall which may not go down well with the wife!!

Anyone see anything glaringly (no pun intended!!) obvious I may have missed??

Also, would I get better colour rendition by mixing colour temps? Or am I selling myself short by not having dedicated blue & red leds in the mix?
Cheers again!!!
 
I have one of those high-bay UFO lights. Tested it and found it was as bright as the sun. It's been in the box ever since. Even the ambient light blinded me.
I think you are both selling yourself short and investing in abysmal light, so I think you should get a proper deep-aquarium RGB unit.
Even if you were happy with the awful light quality and could moderate the glare, and managed to wire it up, you might then need a motorised pulley or some way of distributing the light evenly.
 
I have one of those high-bay UFO lights. Tested it and found it was as bright as the sun. It's been in the box ever since. Even the ambient light blinded me.
I think you are both selling yourself short and investing in abysmal light, so I think you should get a proper deep-aquarium RGB unit.
Even if you were happy with the awful light quality and could moderate the glare, and managed to wire it up, you might then need a motorised pulley or some way of distributing the light evenly.
Back to the drawing board then!!! 🤦‍♂️😆
Out of curiosity, what was the output power on the ufo you tried?
Cheers
 
No. It was the next thing on my list. I got the rail and motor, but then I needed to build a shade and attach it to the rail. Overall it was a massive waste of time and money.
I had a go with the Viparspectra XS1500 pro and that didn't float my boat either. I did a bit more research on LEDs and found that most COBs or white non-RGB types really looked awful (dingy yellow). I got a couple of Twinstars S and B models and realised that was the way to go, but I didn't come up with many options for bigger tanks. I have even got a load of the cheap Hygger, AQQA and Seaoura LEDs, and I quite like some of them, but again, they do not come in the right size.
I might opt for T5 HO fluorescent tubes. I really liked the <vibrancy and flexibility> of T5s, but there is now a far more limited selection of tubes available. Still it makes sense for me because I would rather do other things with my money and I don't like faffing around - I would rather just get on and enjoy the hobby. I really loved the Fluval T5 HO Quad Fluorescent Light - the reflector and build was fantastic and some models could be hung, but they are now discontinued. I still have two in the garage for 3ft tanks. I have also had a play around with LUMii and Omega T5 lights. They do come in quad tube arrangements and at 4ft length. The reflectors are a little bit more dispersed than the old Fluvals, but overall, they are a very cheap way to get resonably intense lighting. With a good mix of tubes I know they would give outstanding results. Plus you do not need to worry about going blind if you accidentally look into the light. So I am the kina guy who has adopted most of the latest technology and is happy to spend large sums of money upgrading lighting, but in spite of this, I cannot hand on my heart recommend another budget option, as suprisingly I still come back to T5s. That is just my experience though.
Now if I was you. I would get <this> for £85. Then I would swap two of the "cool white" tubes: one red/pink (<tropical aquarium-type>) and one orange (Osram extra warm white).
If you go for two red/pink tubes, one orange, and one extra cool white - then the colour rendition is on another level. Plus you can turn two tubes off if you need to reduce the intensity, or raise the light up on a pulley.
 
No. It was the next thing on my list. I got the rail and motor, but then I needed to build a shade and attach it to the rail. Overall it was a massive waste of time and money.
I had a go with the Viparspectra XS1500 pro and that didn't float my boat either. I did a bit more research on LEDs and found that most COBs or white non-RGB types really looked awful (dingy yellow). I got a couple of Twinstars S and B models and realised that was the way to go, but I didn't come up with many options for bigger tanks. I have even got a load of the cheap Hygger, AQQA and Seaoura LEDs, and I quite like some of them, but again, they do not come in the right size.
I might opt for T5 HO fluorescent tubes. I really liked the <vibrancy and flexibility> of T5s, but there is now a far more limited selection of tubes available. Still it makes sense for me because I would rather do other things with my money and I don't like faffing around - I would rather just get on and enjoy the hobby. I really loved the Fluval T5 HO Quad Fluorescent Light - the reflector and build was fantastic and some models could be hung, but they are now discontinued. I still have two in the garage for 3ft tanks. I have also had a play around with LUMii and Omega T5 lights. They do come in quad tube arrangements and at 4ft length. The reflectors are a little bit more dispersed than the old Fluvals, but overall, they are a very cheap way to get resonably intense lighting. With a good mix of tubes I know they would give outstanding results. Plus you do not need to worry about going blind if you accidentally look into the light. So I am the kina guy who has adopted most of the latest technology and is happy to spend large sums of money upgrading lighting, but in spite of this, I cannot hand on my heart recommend another budget option, as suprisingly I still come back to T5s. That is just my experience though.
Now if I was you. I would get <this> for £85. Then I would swap two of the "cool white" tubes: one red/pink (<tropical aquarium-type>) and one orange (Osram extra warm white).
If you go for two red/pink tubes, one orange, and one extra cool white - then the colour rendition is on another level. Plus you can turn two tubes off if you need to reduce the intensity, or raise the light up on a pulley.
Interesting take on it, and I really appreciate your insight and experiences.
My current light is reef spec led that k have full control ability over 4 channels. Problem is, 2 are blue, 1 is blue & green and the last is white. I only use the white channel (after trying various combos with the others to no avail) and the colour rendition I get is below par for aesthetics.
Plants and fish look washed out and it’s made me lose interest, hence looking for an update!
After doing some more research, it seems that I need something with WRGB to keep my eyes happy!
I actually have some T5 units that i used with my led as a hybrid for my reef tank. But I’m not overly keen on having to replace t5 bulbs every 12 months or less, plus the lack of control over them.
But I do like the sound of next level colour rendition. But I also love the utility of leds and their flexibility.
Back once again to the drawing board 🤦‍♂️
 
The other issue with T5’s is id need 80W bulbs to give good coverage, and with 4 bulbs and no controllability, I’d me running at 320W daily. LED should have a smaller pull - have been looking at Chihiros as (apart from costing more than I was wanting to fork out), they seem to tick all other boxes . . .
 
No. It was the next thing on my list. I got the rail and motor, but then I needed to build a shade and attach it to the rail. Overall it was a massive waste of time and money.
I had a go with the Viparspectra XS1500 pro and that didn't float my boat either. I did a bit more research on LEDs and found that most COBs or white non-RGB types really looked awful (dingy yellow). I got a couple of Twinstars S and B models and realised that was the way to go, but I didn't come up with many options for bigger tanks. I have even got a load of the cheap Hygger, AQQA and Seaoura LEDs, and I quite like some of them, but again, they do not come in the right size.
I might opt for T5 HO fluorescent tubes. I really liked the <vibrancy and flexibility> of T5s, but there is now a far more limited selection of tubes available. Still it makes sense for me because I would rather do other things with my money and I don't like faffing around - I would rather just get on and enjoy the hobby. I really loved the Fluval T5 HO Quad Fluorescent Light - the reflector and build was fantastic and some models could be hung, but they are now discontinued. I still have two in the garage for 3ft tanks. I have also had a play around with LUMii and Omega T5 lights. They do come in quad tube arrangements and at 4ft length. The reflectors are a little bit more dispersed than the old Fluvals, but overall, they are a very cheap way to get resonably intense lighting. With a good mix of tubes I know they would give outstanding results. Plus you do not need to worry about going blind if you accidentally look into the light. So I am the kina guy who has adopted most of the latest technology and is happy to spend large sums of money upgrading lighting, but in spite of this, I cannot hand on my heart recommend another budget option, as suprisingly I still come back to T5s. That is just my experience though.
Now if I was you. I would get <this> for £85. Then I would swap two of the "cool white" tubes: one red/pink (<tropical aquarium-type>) and one orange (Osram extra warm white).
If you go for two red/pink tubes, one orange, and one extra cool white - then the colour rendition is on another level. Plus you can turn two tubes off if you need to reduce the intensity, or raise the light up on a pulley.
You may have just swayed me toward T5’s!!!
I have 2 Aqualumi double controllers (which would require a DIY fixture) and have seen they also do a 6’ 4X bulb (1450mm / 80W bulbs) fixture for under £200
Add to that they throw in 4 free bulbs (albeit either pink or 14K white as I’m guessing the blue or purple wouldn’t be great). And I just need to look for orange bulbs. Would a standard orange bulb work or are there tropical specific orange bulbs available? I haven’t come across any yet!
As a cost basis, Chihiros WRGB pro 2 would cost around £750, AI prime would be around £800, T5 fixture is £180 plus 2 extra bulbs (around £50) to start then 4 bulbs a year so I’d break even with LED after 5 years!!!
 
I’m guessing the blue or purple wouldn’t be great
Depends whether you are growing Bucephalandra "Brownie Ghost 2011", Bacopa Salzmannii "Purple" or Rotala ramosior "Florida" etc.
Read <this article>, and <this one>. You can see purple was very popular.
What you want is a selection that you can swap around depending upon your plant selection.
As a cost basis, Chihiros WRGB pro 2 would cost around £750, AI prime would be around £800
That is how I see it, and I expect you would might several of those fittings to get good coverage. When I looked at this for you, I just thought - hold on that's thousands of pounds.
You should get 24,000 hours from a flourescent T5, so that is about 8.2 years lifespan. There is less that can go wrong and components can be fixed or replaced. Get some tubes cheap and put them away in the garage or the loft and you are sorted for years to come. I did a life-cycle analysis once and the research showed that they are roughly equal in terms of intensity per Watt. Obviously, it is lens technology with LEDs or the quality of reflectors with flourescents that makes the biggest difference when it comes to light distribution - but get this sorted and they are great. The only thing I would say is that you forgo the shadowy-dark areas, so they are not ideal for diorama tanks. But for anything neo-dutch they really blow my socks off. Plus I think dioramas are great for photographs but quite unlivable as a domestic aesthetic. There are also T5 LEDs, some of which I suspect might be addressable if you felt dioramical.
And I just need to look for orange bulbs.
The orange bulbs I used were colour temperature 827, coming in at around 2700 Kelvin. You can find them <here>. The seller I have used before and they are good. The only problem was that once the box was a bit bent, so it might be worth discussing the packaging upfront. But they are a professional T5 tube company and I expect you would get a replacement. Usually the boxes/strong carboard tubes are very sturdy from them. I would still use them again.
I would not underestimate the value of orange light. And pink too. What I liked best was one pink, one very cool white, one more neutral white, and another as orange as I could get it. The carpet was screaming and the whole room lit up. The colour temperatures were so good that you could go outside and look in and it seemed better than the naff daylight we get in the summer. Artwork and even jumpers and blankets in the room really popped.
All this talk of T5s has actually got me a bit anxious for something like what you are getting. I have an AquaLumi Universal with the reflectors in the garage, and we used it on a Juwel Rio 125. I felt it was let down by reflectors that were too shallow and no option for high-output bulbs - in fact, I am not sure they offer universal bulb sizes so you might be locked-into to their tube selection (check this) ...so I would go for the DIY route. Plus it's a bit more versatile if you build it yourself because you can have hanging plants, somewhere to put your coffee, etc., and build it how you would like... or I would look at something like this <LUMii> and a pulley.
 
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The drawing board has coughed up another potential solution - adding a supplemental red light bar to the existing led fixture. I will start a new thread as this is now going off topic from where I started!!!
 
Depends whether you are growing Bucephalandra "Brownie Ghost 2011", Bacopa Salzmannii "Purple" or Rotala ramosior "Florida" etc.
Read <this article>, and <this one>. You can see purple was very popular.
What you want is a selection that you can swap around depending upon your plant selection.

That is how I see it, and I expect you would might several of those fittings to get good coverage. When I looked at this for you, I just thought - hold on that's thousands of pounds.
You should get 24,000 hours from a flourescent T5, so that is about 8.2 years lifespan. There is less that can go wrong and components can be fixed or replaced. Get some tubes cheap and put them away in the garage or the loft and you are sorted for years to come. I did a life-cycle analysis once and the research showed that they are roughly equal in terms of intensity per Watt. Obviously, it is lens technology with LEDs or the quality of reflectors with flourescents that makes the biggest difference when it comes to light distribution - but get this sorted and they are great. The only thing I would say is that you forgo the shadowy-dark areas, so they are not ideal for diorama tanks. But for anything neo-dutch they really blow my socks off. Plus I think dioramas are great for photographs but quite unlivable as a domestic aesthetic. There are also T5 LEDs, some of which I suspect might be addressable if you felt dioramical.

The orange bulbs I used were colour temperature 827, coming in at around 2700 Kelvin. You can find them <here>. The seller I have used before and they are good. The only problem was that once the box was a bit bent, so it might be worth discussing the packaging upfront. But they are a professional T5 tube company and I expect you would get a replacement. Usually the boxes/strong carboard tubes are very sturdy from them. I would still use them again.
I would not underestimate the value of orange light. And pink too. What I liked best was one pink, one very cool white, one more neutral white, and another as orange as I could get it. The carpet was screaming and the whole room lit up. The colour temperatures were so good that you could go outside and look in and it seemed better than the naff daylight we get in the summer. Artwork and even jumpers and blankets in the room really popped.
All this talk of T5s has actually got me a bit anxious for something like what you are getting. I have an AquaLumi Universal with the reflectors in the garage, and we used it on a Juwel Rio 125. I felt it was let down by reflectors that were too shallow and no option for high-output bulbs - in fact, I am not sure they offer universal bulb sizes so you might be locked-into to their tube selection (check this) ...so I would go for the DIY route. Plus it's a bit more versatile if you build it yourself because you can have hanging plants, somewhere to put your coffee, etc., and build it how you would like... or I would look at something like this <LUMii> and a pulley.
I was able to use Geisemann tubes for the Aqualumi controller, how might they not be suitable for high output tubes (I thought all tubes had universal pins/end caps)?
The pulley option would be a non-starter with living room supervisor!!!!! So I’d need to be able to have some control over what tubes are running and when (Aqualumi fixture has 2 plugs so can run bulbs on 2 different schedules)
 
how might they not be suitable for high output tubes (I thought all tubes had universal pins/end caps)?
That's right. The major differences are in tube length and wattage. If the bulbs have a higher wattage then this could draw more power across the controller circuitry than it was designed to accomodate. It would depend a bit upon the starter fuse.
 
That's right. The major differences are in tube length and wattage. If the bulbs have a higher wattage then this could draw more power across the controller circuitry than it was designed to accomodate. It would depend a bit upon the starter fuse.
Fixture I was looking at is specifically for 5 foot tubes which come in @ 80W for aquarium spec.
Would I be right in assuming I can run lower wattage bulbs if needed as the starter fuse will run up to 80W?
 
So just a quick update. Totally changed my mind from the start of this thread and went with the T5 4x 80w bulb unit.
Colour rendition is awesome, only downside is the controllability. But the tank is more colourful than it’s ever been. Hopefully the plants will enjoy the lights!!!
 
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