http://www.fish-keeper.net/Forum/index.php?/topic/7318-aquarium-algae/
Edit: Fixed that horrid URL
-SteveUK.
Edit: Fixed that horrid URL
-SteveUK.
ceg4048 said:Why comb the web slaking a thirst for self delusional propaganda?
chris1004 said:Hi
Because I was bored I actually read the whole article and I think your a bit harsh when judging it there Clive. Ok the first paragraph is slightly flawed but is only in referance to non planted tanks and generally very good advice for that type of tank. The rest of the article is preaching exactly the same ethos as is advised on here.
Regards, Chris.
Actually it makes a massive difference. Have high NO3 and PO4 in a fish tank with no plants and with lots of light can cause massive algae problems. Limiting PO4 and NO3 along with excellent filtering are the way to reduce the algae. Also light makes a large difference. Planted tanks on the other hand need PO4 and NO3 to reduce algae.Jack middleton said:Whether its a planted tank or not is irrelevant, nitrates and phosphates do not cause algal growth
JamesC said:Planted tanks on the other hand need PO4 and NO3 to reduce algae.
James
ceg4048 said:Which is fine, but have you noticed that those with the "other views" are the ones who constantly have algae?
ceg4048 said:I mean, tell me truly, do you really think that excess NO3/PO4 causes algae?
Cheers,
JamesC said:Actually it makes a massive difference. Have high NO3 and PO4 in a fish tank with no plants and with lots of light can cause massive algae problems. Limiting PO4 and NO3 along with excellent filtering are the way to reduce the algae. Also light makes a large difference. Planted tanks on the other hand need PO4 and NO3 to reduce algae.Jack middleton said:Whether its a planted tank or not is irrelevant, nitrates and phosphates do not cause algal growth
I only briefly skimmed the above mentioned article but found it very good.
James
ceg4048 said:Which is fine, but have you noticed that those with the "other views" are the ones who constantly have algaue quote]
actually,. I have not noticed.
Midnight said:ceg4048 said:I mean, tell me truly, do you really think that excess NO3/PO4 causes algae?
Cheers,
Actually, I have no idea but It just could be that ithose principles work for Niko. If they do, then I'm open-minded on the subject. I have read similar views elsewhere so presumably these have been formulated out of experience too.
JamesC said:The article was talking about NON PLANTED TANKS.
James
Well, OK, I guess I'm suffering from hair trigger response syndrome (HTRS). In any case, I can absolutely guarantee that at no point would I ever have said that anyone should be blind. Actually I would say that I preach just the opposite. In fact, I'd say that the vast majority have been blindly following the faith being preached that nutrients are a causality of algae. What we are saying here is to break that faith by realizing, and by learning the truth. And we can demonstrate breaking that particular blind faith consistently and repeatedly results in healthier plants. Algae control in the planted tank used to be a very speculative affair (and still is in some circles), but now we understand the basics a bit better. The difficulty arises in that there are a multitude of optical illusions which one may easily interpret as a different situation, perhaps requiring a different approach, however, the same principles are at work. Additionally, algae has a variety of causes. So it's very easy for someone to claim that unilateral limiting of nutrients prevents algae and to have it appear to be true. The idea of nutrient limiting seems so intuitive, while the unlimited concept seems counter intuitive. Without understanding and committing to the fundamental principles though, we stray further from the path.Midnight said:Does it say somewhere that Niko has algae problems?ceg4048 said:Which is fine, but have you noticed that those with the "other views" are the ones who constantly have algae?
Actually, I have no idea but It just could be that ithose principles work for Niko. If they do, then I'm open-minded on the subject. I have read similar views elsewhere so presumably these have been formulated out of experience too.ceg4048 said:I mean, tell me truly, do you really think that excess NO3/PO4 causes algae?
Cheers,
Some of us mere mortals of the aquatic following do listen to what you have to say but don't neccesarily wish to become blind followers of your faith. Every situation is different so different views should be respected, even by gods!
Thanks for clearing that up mate. HTRS is a killer...JamesC said:The article was talking about NON PLANTED TANKS.