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Marsilea Hirsuta "burnt" leaves

cdavman

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Hi all,
I've had my first planted tank set up for around 5 to 6 months now. It's a 90 litre tank, low tech setup.

I planted some Marsilea Hirsuta in vitro during the initial setup, among a number of other plants. It has spread considerably in the time it's been in there, and I'm happy with the growth rate. However, some of the leaves seem to develop dark brown, almost black, patches on them, as shown in the pictures. They look almost burnt.

It seems to only affect some of the leaves, and it doesn't actually seem to kill the leaves off - some of the affected leaves have been that way for months. It's just a bit unsightly.

As far as dosing is concerned, I just use the Colombo Flora Gro fertiliser (primarily because it came with the tank and I saw good results, so have continued to use it). I did have some root tabs in the substrate on initial setup, but haven't "topped those up" recently. I've also used the Colombo Flora Gro Carbo, but I only dose this at less than half the recommended dose - it seemed to help keep the initial algae blooms at bay.

I'm assuming it's a nutrient deficiency of some kind? Could it be the Flora Gro Carbo having a negative effect? I've done a bit of googling but can't seem to find any pictures that quite match what I'm seeing, and as I say it only seems to affect some of the leaves.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Hi all,
Welcome to UKAPS.
I've had my first planted tank set up for around 5 to 6 months now.
I'd be really happy with that.
It seems to only affect some of the leaves, and it doesn't actually seem to kill the leaves off - some of the affected leaves have been that way for months.
The plant look pretty healthy, I think it is just the older leaves senescing and it isn't a deficiency of anything.
It's just a bit unsightly.
I'd just remove them if they bother you. Take the whole frond "stem" off at substrate level, rather than just pinching the leaflet off and leaving a stem sticking up.
As far as dosing is concerned, I just use the Colombo Flora Gro fertiliser (primarily because it came with the tank and I saw good results, so have continued to use it). I did have some root tabs in the substrate on initial setup, but haven't "topped those up" recently.
We have a thread <"Has anyone tried Colombo ferts?">.
I've used the Colombo range a few times with good results. Good price too. Very similar to Tropica Premium and Specialised. I always use their "Pro Special" version with NP added.
<"Deciding on whether to start with APT Zero Or APT 3">.

cheers Darrel
 
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Thanks, that's definitely encouraging. Perhaps I'll give it a tidy up during my next clean up session.

I'll also have a read around the discussions regarding additional NPK dosing. Is that something that would benefit me? I'm getting good growth otherwise.
 
Hi all,
I'll also have a read around the discussions regarding additional NPK dosing. Is that something that would benefit me? I'm getting good growth otherwise.
It is very much matter of personal choice. At some point you probably will <"need to add a fertiliser">.

Personally I wait until the plants show deficiency symptoms and / or <"growth slows"> to a very low level <"What is the “Duckweed Index” all about?">, but others will add nutrients on a more regular basis, to ensure that mineral nutrient availability doesn't limit plant growth.

There isn't a wrong or right answer, it is <"just a balance"> (between plant growth and maintenance) that you feel happy with.

cheers Darrel
 
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