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In need of advice for new tank.

Do you think I would get away with easy plants and no co2 with those?

Depends on Scape OFC and pretty deep tank also. But if you keep clear of doing a carpet, say do rocks with sand like beaches with transitional gravel of different size rocks/gravel to sandy areas and make it look natural. Yes should look good. Plus if you build up the back of the Scape so less water for the light to penitrate or attach plants to wood or rocks you might even get some medium plants to work.
 
It is just going to be various vallis along the back, shorter varieties towards the middle, thinking maybe an echinodorus infront of the vallis in one corner and Hydrocotyle leucocephala in the other corner by the filter, a mixture of crypts in front with an open space just to the left center at the front, maybe put some Sagittaria scattered around that area.

Probably gonna go with sand and bulky gravel for the top layer with some capsules thrown in.

I was even tampted to just buy one of the jungle packs on aquarium gardens website but decided I would like to pick the plants myself.
 
Would you put that under the sand and gravel on top of the plant growth stuff?
 
I think the Juwel Rio 180 would be fine, just plant heavily from the start

The Eheim will likely be fine as well given the lower water column depth though I'd prefer their power LED's over the "classic" - I suspect with the "classic", you'd likely need to stay with lower light plants
Check Tropica plant details as some "Easy" plants may prefer "medium" light - if you try any of these, make sure they're not shaded (especially during startup)

You might check if you can add a second classic LED or switch for the power LED, when ordering
Note that only the Eheim powerLED+ is compatible with their Lighting Controller, though there is a dimmer available for the powerLED

If tank is placed in an open area with good amount of ambient light, this will benefit plants

Visually I prefer the style of the Eheim cabinet over the Juwel "floating" platform (I'm surprised Juwel hasn't changed this)
 
Pretty much sold on the vision 180 now, gonna have a trip to maidenhead aquatics in Ayr to have a look at some tanks in person before we make a final decision though.

I will probably create a journal once the tank is ordered.
 
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I think the Juwel Rio 180 would be fine, just plant heavily from the start

The Eheim will likely be fine as well given the lower water column depth though I'd prefer their power LED's over the "classic" - I suspect with the "classic", you'd likely need to stay with lower light plants
Check Tropica plant details as some "Easy" plants may prefer "medium" light - if you try any of these, make sure they're not shaded (especially during startup)

You might check if you can add a second classic LED or switch for the power LED, when ordering
Note that only the Eheim powerLED+ is compatible with their Lighting Controller, though there is a dimmer available for the powerLED

If tank is placed in an open area with good amount of ambient light, this will benefit plants

Visually I prefer the style of the Eheim cabinet over the Juwel "floating" platform (I'm surprised Juwel hasn't changed this)

The vision does not use the floating platform anymore
 
Definitely look at tanks in real life!
Call around & check what's on display, where ... sometimes the garden centres have more (Juwel) tanks than the aquarium shops 🙂

Vision line does the curved glass which definitely affects visual perception, hopefully you can find a shop with rectangular & curved glass displays - easier to observe the impact on fish shape
(you'll love it or hate it 😉)
 
Definitely look at tanks in real life!
Call around & check what's on display, where ... sometimes the garden centres have more (Juwel) tanks than the aquarium shops 🙂

Vision line does the curved glass which definitely affects visual perception, hopefully you can find a shop with rectangular & curved glass displays - easier to observe the impact on fish shape
(you'll love it or hate it 😉)

My choices for viewing are limited, only pets @ home and maidenhead around.
 
I have a maidenhead aquatics near me which I think is one of the better chains outlets been in others that wasn't as good.
I always shop around then barter prices in any outlet. Getting them to match online prices and discounts for bulk numbers of fish/shrimp. Always prepared to walk out empty handed.
 
In another twist a local pet shop who don't actually stock much aquarium stuff at all where I get my tap safe from said he could get me a fluval roma 240 for £499, I have sent fluval an email to find out the lumens etc.
 
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You'd need to upgrade the lighting for plants

Check whether shop can order in other brands as well, much easier to deal with your local shop in case of any issues

(though if it's a one off for the shop, maybe not ... at the least, there'd likely be longer delays in getting anything resolved - versus an aquarium shop that deals frequently with aquatic suppliers)
 
So decided on the roma 200, great price, missus likes the oak, longer than the vision with more volume.

light is weaker but that just means slower growth I suppose.

Not sure on the filter, if plant growth hides it I will keep it running, if not I will just buy an external filter later.
 
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Yeah those filters are among my least favourite (prone to slowing, then temperamental to restart) but should work well enough to get tank going

55cm tall tank, I'd not start plants without upgrading the lighting - substrate PAR will be very low
 
What would be ideal low tech lighting for a tank like that?, only really vallis and crypts I will grow.

I'm growing cryps under a single 4.4w 4000k GU10 LED downlighter in a 68L. I also have them in my high tech 155L with 150W high power LEDs. They really don't mind where they are as long as there's something.
 
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