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Eheim Electronic Filter Discussion

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George Farmer said:
Just cleaned my G6 today. It took 23 seconds. 😀
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Know of anyone selling a nice used one George ? Im well keen on them (fancy that !!! lol). Out of interest, why are the pumps rated at about 2400lph but the output is only 1000lph ? Do you use the twin jet outlets or spraybar setup ?
 
Antipofish said:
Out of interest, why are the pumps rated at about 2400lph but the output is only 1000lph ? Do you use the twin jet outlets or spraybar setup ?
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I reckon most external filters have a similar drop off in flow due to the head height, media, hoses etc. Hagen have just let folk know. When you see the prefilter and how tight the mesh is it's no wonder there's such loss. They do an even tighter-pore prefilter for polishing the water even further but I've never used one.

I have used the directable twin nozzles before but now use glassware.
 
George Farmer said:
Antipofish said:
Out of interest, why are the pumps rated at about 2400lph but the output is only 1000lph ? Do you use the twin jet outlets or spraybar setup ?
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I reckon most external filters have a similar drop off in flow due to the head height, media, hoses etc. Hagen have just let folk know. When you see the prefilter and how tight the mesh is it's no wonder there's such loss. They do an even tighter-pore prefilter for polishing the water even further but I've never used one.

I have used the directable twin nozzles before but now use glassware.
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Any chance of a pic of your current setup you are using the G6 on mate? I have seen some lily pipes from Hong Kong. Is there any reason to assume they wont work as well as the more expensive options available in the UK ? I am considering buying some, especially now I have just ditched the black background I had on the back of my tank. The tank already looks much more natural ... I'm well chuffed.
 
The cheap lily pipes work fine but the glass can be much thinner so they are even more fragile. The finish is not as nice either. But at 30% or so cost of ADA, Cal Aqua etc. then I guess one can afford to replace them more often.

Judging by your posts on here I would get the best you can afford now rather than getting cheaper models, then replacing them a few days later.... 😉
 
George Farmer said:
The cheap lily pipes work fine but the glass can be much thinner so they are even more fragile. The finish is not as nice either. But at 30% or so cost of ADA, Cal Aqua etc. then I guess one can afford to replace them more often.

Judging by your posts on here I would get the best you can afford now rather than getting cheaper models, then replacing them a few days later.... 😉
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LOL. I am FAST running out of money George ! Can you only get ADA and Cal Aqua stuff from the few specialist shops we already know of or are they more widely available ?
 
Glassware filter pipes in the UK are only available from specialist outlets, although I believe TMC are releasing some soon or may have already. These will likely be an inbetween the cheap eBay stuff and premium brands, both in terms of cost and quality. Ask your local TMC stockist.
 
George Farmer said:
Glassware filter pipes in the UK are only available from specialist outlets, although I believe TMC are releasing some soon or may have already. These will likely be an inbetween the cheap eBay stuff and premium brands, both in terms of cost and quality. Ask your local TMC stockist.
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Cheers Im looking at TGM page and there are several different shaped outlets. The standard ADA, then Cal aqua have one called efflux and another type called do! aqua poppy and do! aqua jet (that one is obvious) and another called violet glass thats the same shape as the ADA. What on earth is the difference between them all ? The cal aqua seems to be an inverted version of the ADA
 
They move the water differently. You can guess how they're going to perform by the shape of the outlet.

The 17mm Cal Aqua provides minimal surface agitation but good water column movement, for instance. The ADA Poppy has the opposite effect - loads of surface movement but little water column circulation. The others are basically in-between.

I am actually using 12mm gUSH glassware from UKAPS sponsor APFUK. I love it but it's too small for your tank.
 
George Farmer said:
They move the water differently. You can guess how they're going to perform by the shape of the outlet.

The 17mm Cal Aqua provides minimal surface agitation but good water column movement, for instance. The ADA Poppy has the opposite effect - loads of surface movement but little water column circulation. The others are basically in-between.

I am actually using 12mm gUSH glassware from UKAPS sponsor APFUK. I love it but it's too small for your tank.
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Ahh so not using it on the same tank you have your G6 on then ?
 
I understand that the reason the electronic filter has reduced flow in electronic mode is so that is has room to automatically increase flow as it detects reduced flow from blockage, thereby keeping flow constant.

So is this filter any good? - I am looking to buy one today.
 
I was speaking to an owner of one of these recently.

The default flow rate setting is not maximum and a PC is required to adjust it higher. Not good news for Mac owners.
 
George Farmer said:
I was speaking to an owner of one of these recently.

The default flow rate setting is not maximum and a PC is required to adjust it higher. Not good news for Mac owners.
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Hi George, I recall Alastair saying you can take it out of electronic mode and just increase and decrease the flow rate on the control buttons on the unit, in order to gain maximum flow. It could be that the person you were talking to does not realise this, OR that Alastair is not aware that he is getting full turbo (though from the noise he said it makes on full whack, it sounds like he was getting the top flow rate).

Also, most newer Mac's have 'bootcamp' so if you have a version of windows OS you can boot up in either OSX or WIN. This ought to overcome that problem, but it is nevertheless remiss of Eheim not to include Mac based software.
 
George Farmer said:
Cool. Thanks. 🙂
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No worries. Sometimes the operation of a filter can be a little confusing and Eheim's translation can occasionally sound odd, so the person you were chatting to might have misunderstood it. Having said that, the comment I gave was only anecdotal too so I could equally be wrong. I missed out on a little 2074 for peanuts at the weekend, which I was thinking of using as a supplementary flow filter/purely mechanical. Glad I did, as now I have the primer flaps sorted on mine the flow is awesome. I am well pleased with it. Just gotta get some lily pipes now 😳
 
sWozzAres said:
It looks like you still have to buy the "interface" seperately to be able to use the software.

http://www.charterhouse-aquatics.co.uk/ ... -4673.html

I don't like the idea of it making noise though! Can anyone recommend a filter that is quiet and outputs somewhere in the range of 2000lph? I won't be using media, just purigen and carbon.
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A silent filter that outputs 2000lph ? Erm..... :jawdrop If you find it let me know, lol.

When I mention noise, its not really NOISE noise its more like NOISE noise. The unit concerned was only turned down at night (possibly in their bedroom?) but otherwise was not really "noisy" per se.

I had an Eheim 2075 Pro3 and it was as close to silent as you could want for. Rather than one filter that did 2000lph I would consider two that are rated a bit less, but thats my preference. I now have a Fluval G6, and it is definitely louder than the Eheim but not enough to stop me sleeping. Its actually very quiet still, but I have very acute hearing.
 
sWozzAres said:
It looks like you still have to buy the "interface" seperately to be able to use the software.

http://www.charterhouse-aquatics.co.uk/ ... -4673.html

I don't like the idea of it making noise though! Can anyone recommend a filter that is quiet and outputs somewhere in the range of 2000lph? I won't be using media, just purigen and carbon.
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And yes, along with having to buy the media separately you have to buy the interface (IF you want to use it, though the filter will work without). So, already an expensive filter, Eheim have made it even more so, LOL. Still reckon it would be a cracking filter to have.
 
Well I now have this filter and it is very quiet. There is no real noise difference between min and max flow settings, if you have your ear next to the filter you do notice it speeding up but from say a metre away, or with the cabinet doors closed there is effectively no noise at all!

There is also no vibration which is good because being inside the cabinet is effectively like being inside a hifi speaker, it seems to amplify noise/vibration.

I am not using any media (except for a bag of purigen and a bag of carbon).
 
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