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nijat11

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Hello dear members.
Soon I will setup a new aquarium with size 250x70x80(70 water level). It will be heavly planted high tech aquarium. I need advice regarding the substrate.My plant is:
3cm high Dennerle Denponix Mix 10 in 1 as base layer. The base will capped with aquasoil around 5cm high and on top around 2-3cm very fine gravel.
Im planning to run this setup for a long time. Do you think is good enough, not enough or redundant?
Thanks in advance
 
nijat11 said:
Hello dear members.
Soon I will setup a new aquarium with size 250x70x80(70 water level). It will be heavly planted high tech aquarium. I need advice regarding the substrate.My plant is:
3cm high Dennerle Denponix Mix 10 in 1 as base layer. The base will capped with aquasoil around 5cm high and on top around 2-3cm very fine gravel.
Im planning to run this setup for a long time. Do you think is good enough, not enough or redundant?
Thanks in advance
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If I recall correctly this is you upgrading from the 180cm tank? You like your nano tanks 😄 Any reason to not just use the same substrate system as your previous tank if it worked well for you?

Edit - Only active substrate I have experience with is Tropical Soil, which I've had good experience with. Not sure how cost effective it would be in a tank that size though!
 
FrozenShivers said:
If I recall correctly this is you upgrading from the 180cm tank? You like your nano tanks 😄 Any reason to not just use the same substrate system as your previous tank if it worked well for you?

Edit - Only active substrate I have experience with is Tropical Soil, which I've had good experience with. Not sure how cost effective it would be in a tank that size though!
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Hello! Yes it is upgrade. Actually I did not had much success with my 180 (it was my first one) I need to do a lot of adjusments, especially with root tabs. So now I would like to avoid mistakes as much as possible. But for this size tanks it gonna cost money 😀 So I dont want to do something redundant or miss something.
 
nijat11 said:
Hello! Yes it is upgrade. Actually I did not had much success with my 180 (it was my first one) I need to do a lot of adjusments, especially with root tabs. So now I would like to avoid mistakes as much as possible. But for this size tanks it gonna cost money 😀 So I dont want to do something redundant or miss something.
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I will soon be doing the substrate for a 120x50x50cm tank, I'm going to be using small layer of Tropica Substrate on the bottom (since I have a spare bag), then main layer of Tropica Soil, then a thin layer of Tropica Sand on the top (same as soil but just smaller particles), I may add some crushed lava rock at the back for height and to help with aeration in the soil. I will also use root tabs as I plan to use a lot of crypts and echinidorus. For a more simple version of what I'm doing, you could just do Tropica Soil throughout, some crushed lava rock in the back if required and root tabs, or something similar by another brand? 🙂
 
FrozenShivers said:
I will soon be doing the substrate for a 120x50x50cm tank, I'm going to be using small layer of Tropica Substrate on the bottom (since I have a spare bag), then main layer of Tropica Soil, then a thin layer of Tropica Sand on the top (same as soil but just smaller particles), I may add some crushed lava rock at the back for height and to help with aeration in the soil. I will also use root tabs as I plan to use a lot of crypts and echinidorus. For a more simple version of what I'm doing, you could just do Tropica Soil throughout, some crushed lava rock in the back if required and root tabs, or something similar by another brand? 🙂
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I`m not sure, but according to some Green Aqua tutorisal, it is really good to have base layer fertilization substrate. Which brand crushed lava are you using?
 
nijat11 said:
I`m not sure, but according to some Green Aqua tutorisal, it is really good to have base layer fertilization substrate. Which brand crushed lava are you using?
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I love Green Aqua's content, but remember that they are also a store and it's in their interest to push premium goods, I'll let you make up your own mind. I am using JBL volcano mineral for crushed lava.
 
FrozenShivers said:
I love Green Aqua's content, but remember that they are also a store and it's in their interest to push premium goods, I'll let you make up your own mind. I am using JBL volcano mineral for crushed lava.
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I agree. The fact that they say things like "you should throw away cheap biomedia such as foam, and replace with BIOMAX" speaks volumes.
 
FrozenShivers said:
I will soon be doing the substrate for a 120x50x50cm tank, I'm going to be using small layer of Tropica Substrate on the bottom (since I have a spare bag), then main layer of Tropica Soil, then a thin layer of Tropica Sand on the top (same as soil but just smaller particles), I may add some crushed lava rock at the back for height and to help with aeration in the soil. I will also use root tabs as I plan to use a lot of crypts and echinidorus. For a more simple version of what I'm doing, you could just do Tropica Soil throughout, some crushed lava rock in the back if required and root tabs, or something similar by another brand? 🙂
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I put tropica sand ontop of tropica soil at the front of my aquarium, as I planted a carpet and thought that it would grip the small plants better. I now have cyanobacteria in that area. I understand that cyanobacteria can start in the substrate when there is a lack of oxygen (happy to be corrected on that). Now I wonder if adding the tropica sand ontop has ‘suffocated’ the substrate causing issues. This is pure speculation though.

I have used Tropica substrate with tropica soil ontop with great success and no cyanobacteria.
 
Ehcosbie said:
I put tropica sand ontop of tropica soil at the front of my aquarium, as I planted a carpet and thought that it would grip the small plants better. I now have cyanobacteria in that area. I understand that cyanobacteria can start in the substrate when there is a lack of oxygen (happy to be corrected on that). Now I wonder if adding the tropica sand ontop has ‘suffocated’ the substrate causing issues. This is pure speculation though.

I have used Tropica substrate with tropica soil ontop with great success and no cyanobacteria.
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MTS is your solution.
 
Ehcosbie said:
I put tropica sand ontop of tropica soil at the front of my aquarium, as I planted a carpet and thought that it would grip the small plants better. I now have cyanobacteria in that area. I understand that cyanobacteria can start in the substrate when there is a lack of oxygen (happy to be corrected on that). Now I wonder if adding the tropica sand ontop has ‘suffocated’ the substrate causing issues. This is pure speculation though.

I have used Tropica substrate with tropica soil ontop with great success and no cyanobacteria.
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I think it’s oxygen related but I’ve only ever had it once, in my inert sand tank.

nijat11 said:
MTS is your solution.
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I use them also, they do help oxygenate the substrate with their burrowing 🙂
 
Okay guys, regarding soil. I will need around 10 bags and they fckn expenssive. I was thinking between Dennerle Scaper Soil and ADA Amazonia v2. Bud ada way too expenssive. Any thoughts?
 
nijat11 said:
Okay guys, regarding soil. I will need around 10 bags and they fckn expenssive. I was thinking between Dennerle Scaper Soil and ADA Amazonia v2. Bud ada way too expenssive. Any thoughts?
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Is Dennerle Soil well priced in the Netherlands? If so that could be worthwhile? Sorry, I've not lived there for best part of 20 years and I wasn't a fish keeper back then so no idea on what the best value good brands are.
 
nijat11 said:
30 euro per bag and ada 42 euro per bag
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Is Tropica Aquairum Soil no good? I am fairly new to planted tanks but seems to helping things grow nicely for me!
 
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