A couple of natives

[mr._luke]

Thought id share my minor success with native mosses and liverworts. Plenty more on the go at the minute but not started growing yet.


Native on the left and pellia on the right


This shouldnt be growing but its sending out tiny shoots through the substrate

 

[dean]

Very cool
Where did you find them

 

[mr. luke]

2 of them are from the edge of a nature pond in my mums padock and one was from some woodland nearby.

 

[banthaman.jm]

Cool, i like the idea of natives..
Jim

 

[mr. luke]

Riccardia is a native, a lot of people dont realise that you can scrape handfulls off river banks 🙂

 

[SandstoneSturgeon]

This is really cool! I've wanted to try this with my tank, but the desert where I live offers little in the way of plants. I want to add some lava rock to my tanks (It is EVERYWHERE here) and there is a very dense plant that grows in the river near my house. I will identify the plant first, but are there any risks or certain methods that I should be aware of if I try to introduce native plants/rocks? I've heard it's very risky and has a low success rate.

 

[mr. luke]

I try growing the, away from livestock first to see if they will actually grow and make sure they wont mutate and eat my fish.....
I can almost guarantee that your river will have some kind of moss or liverwort in or around it that you can try 🙂
Found a fissidens species today. Also found a Jungermannia species growing on damp rocks and some Plagiomnium affine 🙂
Its deffinately worth a search guys.

Riccia fluitans and Fissidens fontanus also grow native to the uk. I apreciate most people wont go out of the way for those but you do see a lot more of nature when you look closer.



The top one i have identified as our aquarium 'millimeter moss' which saved me £5 over buying it 🙂

 

[dw1305]

Hi all,
Great thread.

The top one i have identified as our aquarium 'millimeter moss'

I should start by saying I don't know what your moss is, but it a "pleurocarpous" moss, which means that it isn't a Barbula or Micromitrium species (these are "acrocarpous"). I don't know what the moss labelled as Micromitrium or "Millimetre moss" is on Polish forums, but I don't think that is a Micromitrium either.

The top moss looks closer to Drepanocladus aduncus (below), but the "leaf" on your is fatter, so it is probably something else. (from <http://www.biolib.cz/en/image/id223849/>.


The moss sold as Stringy moss or "Leptodictyum riparium" isn't L. riparium, but your moss may actually be.

Have a look at <http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/forumapc/plant-id/56199-what-i-think-need-help.html>

cheers Darrel

 

[mr. luke]

I was hoping youd comment dw 🙂
Ive become somewhat of a geek recently. I spent my 4 days of scouring various environments for moss....
ill tryvand get a clearer picture tonight as its grown a little since I posted

 

[mr. luke]

Also, Amblystegia serpens (id to the best of my knowledge) is what I believe to be 'stringy moss'. Submerged growth is identicle to my eye

 

[dw1305]

Hi all,

Amblystegium serpens

I've got, what I think is, this one as well.

It has a very fine leaf, and maybe the plant they sell as "Stringy Moss" or "Leptodictyum riparium". It grew from a bit of dry tufa, and it definitely likes lime.

If it is Amblystegium serpens, it is a <"really common one"> in the UK.

I'll scan it later today.

cheers Darrel

 

[mr. luke]

Striny moss seems like a minefield to me. So many have very similar growth patterns submerged and i dont have a microscope 🙁
Nonetheless, ill keep collecting and keep updating 🙂
Thinking of traveling to hope valley for a gander and a day out.

 

[SandstoneSturgeon]

I've had some success growing Java Ferns on my rocks. Is the Stringy Moss significantly harder to get going than Javas?

 

[SandstoneSturgeon]

Sorry, yesterday's post wasn't worded very well. What I was trying to ask was if mosses are more difficult than ferns to grow?

 

[mr. luke]

I find mosses in general to be easier than ferns.
In my shrimp tank with a very low tds and no ferts the mosses (and 'pellia') are taking over 🙂
My pellia needs retying every 2 weeks With no co2 or ferts. My java fern is surviving but not thriving