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I don't think anyone can predict fish behaviour, it depends on the fish. Having said that, at 6cm they aren't large fish and small Rainbowfish aren't known for eating shrimp. I think you'll be ok, but you can only try it and see what happens. I've never kept them though.

As long as the gravel is fine enough and not sharp or anything, then they'll be fine. I'm pretty sure they'll be okay with those rainbows too.

Thanks for the advice guys! i have seen those two sites. I've got some TetraMin, TetraPrima and a bunch of other foods, micro pellets, micro wafers, tetra crisps, algae wafers. I'll also get some of the above that I linked.

Ok, so something like this? http://www.aquaessentials.co.uk/index.p ... ts_id=1782 Thanks for the advice, I'll probably get Bronze to start off with, they seem the easiest to keep.

I've never kept Cories, and want to get some this weekend. Having never kept them (or any bottom-feeder for that matter) I'm not too sure on what to feed them! Could anyone who has eperience with Cories recommend a food for them? Something that AE sell would be good. :D

I doube it, I think they're too small and those snails have thicker shells.

I think a comfortable shoal for this tank would be 20 fish around 5cm. For the larger fish, I don't know about Silver Dollars. You might have problems with the Angelfish/Tetras if you go for that option but have you thought about a Dwarf Cichlid? Something like Rams or Apistos.

Ok, maybe I should have re-phrased what I said, I didn't mean to give misleading advice if that's how it seemed. ;)

Just to clarify, I wasn't suggesting you just buy some random treatment, dose it and hope that it works. That's why I said I wasn't really sure what to do and to go to Maidenhead for further advice on that.

I think the best thing to do would be to dose something to help the little guys out. You might also want to do a water change. MA are usually quite helpful and can advise you on what the best product would be to use. ;)

Do you have any sort of treatments at all that you could dose? If you inject CO2, is that looking ok? If your tank is open-top then you might have sprayed deoderant near the tank or something and that has effected it. Either way, I don't really know what to do but I thought I'd help out anyway...

In the hundreds, you don't have anything to worry about unless you get too overpopulated.

The way I work it out, is if you're dealing with fish such as Tetras, Rasbras etc then 1cm of fish per 1l of water. So... (approx) 1 Platy = 5cm 1 Silvertip Tetra = 5cm 6 Rummynose Tetra = 5cm each = 30cm 6 Neon Blue Tetras = 5cm each = 30cm = around 70cm = 70l so you've got a bit of room...

Not at all. ;)

I echo the more mid-water than bottom. I've also heard that they can be more timid and prefer to be in larger shoals.

At the end of the day, even of Otos are quite unhardy or whatever in the first stages, it still died. You should take it back and get a replacement (maybe get a few more as Otos like to be in groups aswell).

Ahh that's such a shame!

I think you'll be fine overall. The WCMM might jump a little, as might the Barbs and Platies but they're not known by any means to be prolific jumpers, just once in a blue moon. As Steve said, Apple snails do exit the water to breed. I've never kept them and don't know that much about them...

I think smallish Plecs are alright with shrimp, but I'm not 100%. I would imagine they might eat a few but not actually hunt them down.

Drop some flakes in, and then just grab 'em while they're at the surface? :P

Yeah, they would. Lampeye Kilifish?

All seems good to me. I would personally just get a pair of Keholes, one male and one female, just to balance things out a bit and maybe get another BN - one of each sex maybe.

Just to throw my two pence in regarding experience: I had six of these, not for very long. A few months tops. They were nice fish, I never saw them being aggressive though. They would have some squabbles between themselves, but that's it. If anything, they were timid. They used to swim very...

SEVEN TANKS!?!! when can i move in? :lol:

I like how jungly the tank is, I'm sure the fish will be fine for a few months. Instead of getting a completely new tank, you could alwasy get a smallish one and put some of the existing smaller fish in there ;)

Re: Cherry Barbs Maybe get rid of some of the Tetras/Cories? e.g. 3 neon tetras must be a bit lonely

Thanks for that, I'm not too sure where Wolverhampton is, but too far away from Enfield nonetheless. :lol: Thanks again anyway ;) I'm sure Wildwoods could sort something out, they are always rated good with PFK and everyone else and I'm always in there.

Cool, thanks Ed ;) I thought you'd be they guy to ask! I'll check out the Borelli you mentioned. Are they quite hard to get hold of?

I have a 30l tank and am thinking of stocking ideas. There's currently a small shoal of Ember Tetras, so not full stocking by any means. It's densely planted in a 'jungle' style, lots of cover. The approx measurements of the tank are 30x30x30, or thereabouts. Would it be possible to keep one...

Re: Cherry Barbs 60cm/70l or so

Re: Cherry Barbs I've never kept them but they're really nice fish. They get to about 5cm and breed easily. The males tend to set up territories but it's nothing too aggresive.

That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

I agree about the fish suggestions. I'd also say to just get six of one type of Cory, both to be fair to the fish and aesthetically etc.

angelfish would be a good alternatie, not as colourful but you can keep less of them and in a smaller tank.

i'm not a discus expert by any means, but i do know that they are quite social fish so keeping one wouldn't really be fair. i don't think keeping one of any fish is fair to be honest, unless it is required. you then need to think about your tank size... 125l isn't that big. i'm sure someone will...

i think setting up a larger setup would be better. that way, you can cram it full ow moss, dump all the cpd's in there and let them spawn naturally so that none of the other fish can eat the eggs, and there'll be extra cover because its a spawning tank. it'll also probably be easier because...

nice one, they're most probably rainbows ;) the tank they're in does have a cycled filter and heater, right?

i think the best thing to do is experiment for yourself and see what works for you. it's good to follow advice though, but at the end of the day each fish is different. i know what you mean about looking out for eggs, though. just little small round white things i guess :lol:

what a shame... are you sure you need to use two males? still feeding live food?

i don't think an otto is suitable for a 10l to be honest with you. 10l is nothing, and although ottos aren't exactly big fish, they're not the smallest of things. they are also very social fish, so keeping one or even two on their own wouldn't be fair, especially in such a small tank.

Hmm... I'e never actually bred fish like this in practise, but have read a lot about it. I'm not sure how large or visible the eggs will be if/when they are laid, but I think the most obvious way to tell if it's all gone to plan is when the female is smaller in size.

I'm not sure... How will you know when/if they've done the deed?

I know Mark (saintly) has kept them and seems to have had good experiences with them. They are one of th emore aggresive tetras, so keep in good sized groups with no small, long-finned etc fish such as Guppies. Like jay said, they also grow quite large for a tetra (about 7-8cm maybe) so a tank...

if all goes badly, you could always swap for cardinals i suppose, not the same i know but a similar fish all the same and quite a bit bigger.

That's great news, get rid of the pensilfish and harlequins!

I would take the neons out and just set up like a 30l tank to grow them out a bit. The angels still might eat them when you put them back in the main tank afterwards, but its worth a try.

I'm not sure about your other questions, but I find with fish and behaviour it's a kind of balancing act. If you remove one fish, or add a few more, change their suggoundings - anything like that and they could change their behaviour. They can also change their behaviour over time, but I would...

I've never kept these, but I would say more aggression/territory marking or whatever. When fish are showing breeding behaviour, their colouration usually gets much brighter, not duller.

she looks like a nice healthy fish with good colouring - nice selection! hope all goes well, as you can see i'm pretty interested in this topic :)

yeah, take them out just to be on the safe side

woo so excitinggg :D post lots of pics and keep us posted

They'll most likely get eaten then... In saying that, I have had Guppy fry survive with just a little bit of plant cover/surface cover in a tank with Danios, Gouramis and such. I personally wouldn't put them in there yet even though they are eating the shrimp. You might be able to just setup...

How large are they now? That's the thing that'll determine whether they're food or not for the parents.

at least he did it why you was watching. THIS IS WHY I HAVE A HOOD :D

I would say the best thing to do is just have the two species - more Cardinals though because they tend to spread out mroe and then have fewer Rummies and they'll form a tight shoal and swim amoungst the Cardinals.

What do you mean Danios are too similar in character to Rummy-nose Tetras? If anything, I'd say Harlequins are more similar, Harlequins tend to stick more to the middle strata of the water column, whereas Danios at the top.

I think this can be a common thing, especially amoungs small groups of tetras. The five or so neons in my sister's tank are always having a go at each other when I look in there. How big is the tank? I would make sure you have plenty of hiding places, and you could also add a few more o stir...

I agree you should give them time to settle in, they'll come out when they're ready. I know this sounds really weird, but I find when it comes to being timid it's a bit of a balancing act with fish. Sometimes if you add a few fish, take some away, add another species (even to take out again)...

This should be interesting! You might want to add some more cover to the tank, as the museum advised. It looks pretty open at the moment. I have heard that when breeding fish like this Cabomba works well too, you might also want to use some floating plants.

^ 10 is a lot of rams, considering I think each pair usually takes up a territory of about 60 x 30cm

Yeah, definately snails.

Are you using one of those little opti-whites from Aqua Essentials? You might not even need a heater to be honest. CPD's don't need their water that hot to begin with, and it's such a small tank that it'll probably be warm enough with the tank light on and the room heat. You should probably...

If they do decide to breed in your main tank, it's pretty well-planted. You'd be surprised what can survive amoungst a few plants, Clark!

I've heard with Danios you should feed them live food/freeze dried for a couple of weeks and then select the biggest female and two males, then put them in the breeding tank overnight. The tank could have cabomba, moss, mesh, marbles on the tank floor - anhting for the eggs to fall through/stick...

maybe try thickets of cabomba, then half moss bottom and half mesh bottom, also marbles for the eggs to fall through

There's a million topics on UKAPS about this, you could have searched the forums first. If you're snails aren't under control, then you're probably feeding your fish too much. Botia Strata seems to be the best choice as a snail-eating fish. I've also heard that Dwarf Puffers will eat snails...

I would say it's the stuff below the sand, whatever it is. I think both of those need to be capped because they are toxic or something, but I doubt that could make a Cory loose a barbel. Just add another inch of sand maybe? I've never kept Corys but I doubt they can dig that far.

That's well amazing - two months?! Wow, maybe we should just keep our fish in our filters from now on!

Cool, thanks for sharing! :D I've also read that Mollies tend to be good algae eaters, you could always give them a go too.

I've seen these fish before and they seem nice enough. It's suprising to hear that they are good algae eaters though! How do you find them apart fr their algae-eating ablilities? What size tank?

Looks like y ou've got this problem sorted, just wanted to say what nice fish they seem! Are they easy to breed? What type of conditions (tank pics!) do you have? Thanks :D

Re: Unidentified fry?!?!?!? It would be great if they were Rainbows... Keep us posted LD!

Re: Unidentified fry?!?!?!? They are the cutest thing! I would have said it's the Harlequins but Garuf seems to have sorted this.

Killifish Gourami Danios Minnows Guppies (and probably other livebearers)

With Cichlids, it depends more on dimensions to be honest, but I would say two pairs is fine in a 200l unless you've got some real messed up dimensions going on. I'm not sure about Apistos - I've never kept them. Regarding other Cichlids, as long as you don't mix South Americans and Africans...

If I had to gues... the loaches.

I didn't realise until a few weeks ago just how tiny Pygmy Cories are! They're so tiny but from what I've seen/heard are great little fish. You've got quite the colection there!

Re: ember tetras and golden rams shrimp = food. they are less than 5cm.

Re: ember tetras and golden rams yeah, both would be okay because they are more than 5cm in length. ember tetras are about 3cm fully grown, and angels view anything that size as food.

I'm assuming your tank is cycled? Any fish that you buy and put into your tank will be scared and stressed. They've just been put into a cramped plasic bag and dumped in a strange tank with different water parameters. Just make sure you have plenty of hiding places and keep the lights off...

Re: ember tetras and golden rams Yeah, embers will soon be food as far as angels are concerned. Anything above 5cm will be okay. Don't get rams. You are already pushing it a bit with four angels, so adding another pair of rams wouldn't be a good idea.

Re: ember tetras and golden rams I think they'll be fine with Rams just as long as you get quite a lot of them and you give them a few months to settle in.

Re: ember tetras and golden rams Yeah, I just meant 20 as a good minimum. :D 30/40 is better because Embers are very nervous. I would say put them in the tank first so that they are confident before adding the Rams.

Re: ember tetras and golden rams I don't see why not. Just have plenty of hiding places, which there will be if it's a planted tank. Also make sure you get a decent amount of embers, I'd say about 20 or so.

Yeah, I secomd that RE: the angels. Cories sounds good too. I would also get some medium sized fish, but make sure they are above 5cm or they'll soon be food when the angels grow up. A shoal of about 10-15 Cardinals, Rummynoses, Bleeding Hearts etc.

I've learned a couple of techniques in feeding timid fish: 1. Crush a pinch of flakes into a small pot. 2 Add about 20ml of water or so. 3 Suck up the stuff with a syringe. 4 Syringe it in the general direction of the fish. This always seems to work for me. :D

I would normally say try increasing the shoal but 20 is ample. How long ago did you get them? The only other thing that I can think of is the lighting, but looks like you've got that covered. Lots of plant cover is always good. Any other tankmates? Some shoalers are just naturally quite shy I...

I've kept Zebra Danios with Honey Gouramis before (when I first started out) and they got on fine if that's anything to go by.

I've always used good ol' TetraMin but I know there are others that people must use. Just interested to know what food you use, why you like it/don't like it and for what fish.

Embers are by far the best option. How big is the tank? I think small rasboras like Garuf mentioned would be treat too.

Thanks for that. Where did you get your Microrasboras from? Was it that website that used to be called Tropical Fish 4 U? I can't think of the new name of it now.

Hmm... That's okay then, I thought maybe you bought a stupid number like three but you obviously know your stuff. They'll probably be okay in a week or so. They could just be timid because of tankmates (or lack of), flow, bright lighting, the tank is in a busy room, loud noises, carbon. It...

Oh I get ya. I think the Chocolate Gouramis are a good idea, although you could consider the Yellow or Red ones (Dwarf?). I reckon they would look pretty good too. Or, instead of that you could have another shoal of say Pentazona Barbs or Ember Tetras which would complement the Harlequins well...

how many do you have?

Are you looking for a species to complement the Harlequins that will replace the Gouramis? Or just another species as well as the Harlequins and Gouramis?

There's pretty mixed opinions on Harlequins. Some people say they don't shoal at all, and other say they shoal brilliantly. Either way, I will still consider them. I think they will go great with the 'feel' of the scape I have in mind, although they aren't one of my favourite fish.

Hah, no not yet. The tank isn't even set up yet and won't be for months. I just wanted to get an idea of what's out there and what I liked. I'm in the process of setting up my 35l to get the hang of things now. It's called 'Forest' in the journals section. It was originally going to be for...

ooh, those rasboras look and sound really interesting. SuperColey, I've seen those from your Journal and have to say I really like them. I think Microrasboras is the way to go! I just like the fact that they are small because I like to give my fish a lot of room to swim, so a shoal of these will...

What about Zebra Danios? I think they are really under-reated in the planted aquarium scene and probably prefer then rather than WCMM.

Yeah, I love the red ones. They're like the ones in SteveUK's livebearer tank. Hah, my opinion keeps cnanging on Rummies Matt, one minute I'm all for getting them and the next I'm back to hating them. I can't see myself actually getting them though... (but don't hold your breath :D).