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Will UVC lights in Fluval 207 kill beneficial bacteria?

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I am planning to buy Fluval 207 for this tank…



But I was shocked to discover that it’s has UVC inline clarifier. I know many users in this form are using Fluval 207. Will the Ultra Violet kill the beneficial bacteria?
 
But I was shocked to discover that it’s has UVC inline clarifier. I know many users in this form are using Fluval 207. Will the Ultra Violet kill the beneficial bacteria?
UV will not kill/weaken BB as long as it’s AFTER the filter unit. I.e. attached to the outflow after the water has passed through the main filter media
 
UV will not kill/weaken BB as long as it’s AFTER the filter unit. I.e. attached to the outflow after the water has passed through the main filter media
But eventually the water comes from inflow, passes through the filter media before exiting through the outflow, carrying beneficial bacteria in the whole process? Unless the filter can distinguish between the beneficial and harmful bacteria and avoid letting beneficial bacteria pass through the filter media.
 
But eventually the water comes from inflow, passes through the filter media before exiting through the outflow, carrying beneficial bacteria in the whole process? Unless the filter can distinguish between the beneficial and harmful bacteria and avoid letting beneficial bacteria pass through the filter media.
UV kills all - but there are more than enough bacteria in filter and the substrate and on the surfaces to ensure that a healthy population is maintained, bacteria in the water column will be kept down to low numbers.
 
But eventually the water comes from inflow, passes through the filter media before exiting through the outflow, carrying beneficial bacteria in the whole process?
UV only weakens what passes through it. If the water passes through your media first, then it colonises there, and the rest gets exposed to UV light on the way out. This is why its best to have the UV AFTER the filtration.
 
You need to remember that once BB attaches to the media, that is where it reproduces and 'eats' things that pass over it. That is why you get gunk (or biofilm) on your biomedia - that gunk is very much alive with goodness!
 
UV only weakens what passes through it. If the water passes through your media first, then it colonises there, and the rest gets exposed to UV light on the way out. This is why its best to have the UV AFTER the filtration.

Thanks for clarification.
How do I find out if the filter I am planning or buy will use UV after filtration or do those filters contain some mechanism to use UV before or after?

I know it’s a dumb question but I am still new into the world of aquascape.
 
If you are buying Fluval don’t worry. If they have integrated a UV they will optimise the usage.

Failing that, you will need to read the manufacturing website and look at how the flow moves within the filter to assess.
 
If you are buying Fluval don’t worry. If they have integrated a UV they will optimise the usage.

Failing that, you will need to read the manufacturing website and look at how the flow moves within the filter to assess.
I run a Fluval 407 with an in-inline Fluval UV on the return to the tank. I am not sure Fluval does sell filters with integrated UVs. Many UV systems built-in to the filter are a bit of pain because UV bulbs need to be changed, and over time plastic clips, etc., perish and break, I run a fairly effective UV combined filter in my goldfish pond, but next time the bulb blows it is a new filter for me, the passage of time in a watery world has made maintenance now too difficult. It works a treat to stop green water in the Spring. My UV on my main tank works a treat to protect my surprisingly sensitive black mollies. A friend now uses UV to protect his Discus, my suggestion and has had no disease issues since. Most fish diseases are parasites of some sort and have a free swimming stage, knocked out, or, massively reduced in numbers by UV. Here in the UK, All Ponds Solutions sells pretty effective smallish combined internal filter UVs for aquariums, the bulb is easily changed for at least a few years before the inevitable brittle plastic issue. The filter bit, however, is very modest and needs to be cleaned regularly. I hope that clarifies things, pun intended! Happy Christmas to all.
 
I just looked at the fluval website https://fluvalaquatics.com/uk/shop/product/207-canister-filter-20-45-us-gal-60-220-l and the 207 doesn't seem to have an integrated uv, unless there is a new model I didn't find, so it sounds as though it's just an inline addition and probably part of a package. If it is then I would just buy the filter and not bother with the uv.

Uv filters are always best on any filter after the water has been passed though it. They need the cleanest and most particle free water to work correctly.
 
But I was shocked to discover that it’s has UVC inline clarifier. I know many users in this form are using Fluval 207. Will the Ultra Violet kill the beneficial bacteria?
Regarding beneficial bacteria, it doesn't matter if the UV filter is on the inlet or outlet of the filter. Traditionally the UV unit is positioned after the filtration to reduce the maintenance and increase its performance. You want crystal clear water to reach the UV, so you don't have to clean it, and the UV light can kill stuff more efficiently.
 
Regarding beneficial bacteria, it doesn't matter if the UV filter is on the inlet or outlet of the filter.
In a new setup, you won't want to pass the water through the UV before getting to the filter. The UV light does not discriminate against what it weakens - BB or pathogen.
 
It's exactly the same, doesn't matter where you put it, before or after.
In a new setup, you want to ensure all the column water passes over the biomedia so bacteria can colonise efficiently. If you place a UV before this, it weakens (or mutates) what gets to the biomedia. Some beneficial bacteria require a surface, and once they cling to the biomedia, they won't (on the whole) pass through the UV light again, thus limiting the loop you describe above.
 
A UVC filter is a nice addition to a functioning filter. Nothing more. And where you place it is largely irrelevant. Whether at the inlet or outlet of the filter does not play a significant role.

Otherwise, of course, you have to be careful that such a UVC filter doesn't destroy the universe and all the rest.

Perhaps I should read less Douglas Adams. And also do without Monty Python. But that's hard.

Sorry for that posting.
 
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