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Why is a spin pipe clearing my algae?

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Hi all, this is my first post here!

On one of my scapes (photo below following a recent trim) I have been experimenting switching between the pictured spin pipe and a standard lily pipe. EVERY time I switch to the standard lily pipe I begin getting staghorn algae and some bba, particularly on areas in the flow - the cyperus helferi suffers the worst but it also appears on the trident fern, the mosses and the hygrophila pinnatifida.

However, when I use the spin pipe, the algae's largely clear up, whilst the scape is not entirely algae-free (I still get some staghorn in the moss-covered black lava rocks which I suspect are trapping detritus), it seems to almost disappear elsewhere - the cyperus is a well known algae magnet on older leaves, yet mine is now spotless and in great health.

But when I then change back to the lily pipe I start getting algae again? I've adjusted the position of the CO2 accordingly with the change of pipes and ensure the dropchecker reads appropriate levels. I maintain the same fertilisation and maintenance routine each time.

The tank is only 60cm x 30cm x 30cm (54 litres) for reference.

It really confuses me, my understanding is that sufficient flow is a key factor in algae prevention and yet it seems to be a direct trigger for me?
Any suggestions on why this is would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks!

Scape september 2024.JPG
 
Hi all,
Welcome to UKAPS, that is a good looking tank.
I have been experimenting switching between the pictured spin pipe and a standard lily pipe. EVERY time I switch to the standard lily pipe I begin getting staghorn algae and some bba, particularly on areas in the flow
A strange question but do you have snails? and an even stranger question what filter media do you have?
my understanding is that sufficient flow is a key factor in algae prevention and yet it seems to be a direct trigger for me?
We have a thread <"Algae after vacation ! Need to revive">

cheers Darrel
 
Welcome to UKAPS, that is a good looking tank.
Thanks Darrel, appreciate it. I think I am familiar with your apisto expertise from apistogramma.com which I have been on for a while.

A strange question but do you have snails? and an even stranger question what filter media do you have?
I do have snails but only some that have come in on plants etc - bladder and malaysian trumpet snails.
Filter media is the stock contents of the oase thermo cannister filters - roughly 1/3 to 1/2 biomedia and the rest sponge. Is this something that you'd suggest upgrading to more biomedia?

Thanks for this, interesting about the ramshorn snails and grazing areas. I am not averse to snails and if they can help out with BBA grazing that would be great - I tend to just get small tufts appearing now and then which might be more manageable for them?
 
Hi all,
I am familiar with your apisto expertise from apistogramma.com which I have been on for a while.
I actually <"arrived at UKAPS"> via <"apistogramma.com">. I think I'm generally better with plants than fish, although I've killed plenty of both.
Filter media is the stock contents of the oase thermo cannister filters - roughly 1/3 to 1/2 biomedia and the rest sponge. Is this something that you'd suggest upgrading to more biomedia?
No, <"not particularly">. Personally <"I don't like fine sponge">, but the pre-filter on the OASE filter should negate problems with clogging.

We don't know <"what causes BBA">, or Staghorn, <"outbreaks">, but there is a suggestion that high levels of Dissolved Organic Matter (DOM) may be a trigger. The reason for the filter question is that if you have a lot of <"thick and sticky biofilm"> in the filter it may be the <"source of the DOM">.
about the ramshorn snails and grazing areas. I am not averse to snails and if they can help out with BBA grazing that would be great - I tend to just get small tufts appearing now and then which might be more manageable for them?
We think they work over time by non-selectively grazing the biofilm, including any new growth of BBA. They don't eat the mature tufts, but they will eventually detach naturally, due to their <"complex life cycle"> - <"BBA disappeared over night?">.

cheers Darrel
 
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Hi all,
I only seem to get BBA in high flow areas, and I know plenty of others have noticed the same thing in their tanks.

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cheers Darrel
 
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