JMorgan
Member
Hi Gill, very sorry to hear about everything you've gone through.
I receive the lower rate of PIP while my severely disabled wife receives higher rate PIP
I'm absolutely not trying to put you off applying, but in the sense that fore-warned is fore-armed, just be aware that the whole process can be a pretty huge source of stress in its own right. The crucial thing is therefore how you approach the whole process and the most important thing in that context is to get support in place BEFORE you start even thinking very hard about it.
I have M.E. which is well known for being an automatic rejection for PIP, with most cases going to tribunal. Knowing that in advance would have helped me measure my expectations rather than going through the fairly hellish process of repeated rejection and appeal until, 18 months later, I was finally treated like a human being at the tribunal hearing. By far the most valuable source of guidance and support came from an online forum specifically focused on supporting people with M.E. - they were able to tell me (I only found out about them very late in the process) what to expect and what supporting evidence would carry most weight. By contrast the CAB 'specialist' in supporting PIP applications was almost useless because she had zero understanding of my health condition. YMMV of course.
For example, I was shocked to learn that the DWP pretty much discounts evidence presented by your G.P. because they assume that your G.P. has very little insight into how your condition affects your life day by day and also that your G.P. will be biased in your favour. This was a huge blow as my G.P. at the time was exceptionally well-informed, having been our family doctor for over 15 years.
By contrast a half an hour conversation with an occupational therapist which resulted in a letter I could present as evidence, seems to have carried infinitely more weight. That's totally absurd, but it's a broken system being run by people who are incentivised to reject as many applications as possible. Knowing that in advance would have been helpful - and possibly allowed me to take the rejections a bit less personally.
That said, my wife's disabilities, extensive and detailed medical history and the evidence that was immediately available from a broad range of medical and health professionals, made her application relatively straightforward - though that was now many years ago.
My point is that whatever your health conditions are, in the first place, seek out and connect with others who have already been through this process. Then treat it as much as possible as an administrative exercise, detaching and de-personalising wherever possible, because that is ALL it is as far as the DWP is concerned, no matter how 'nice', 'understanding' and 'sympathetic' the person on the end of the phone might appear or sound. They are not the ones making the decision!
In other words, the DWP will treat you like a number, so armour yourself with cynicism and gather your resources and support system so you have a solid foundation, before you even bother picking up the phone to apply. That said, remember that when you are awarded PIP, it's the date of that application that the award will be back-dated to. With the benefit of hindsight I can say with perfect honesty that they managed to intimidate me into NOT applying for about 5 years during which time I was eligible for PIP, which represents many thousands of pounds of support I will never receive. Senior management at DWP will see that as a successful disincentive strategy, not the utter failure to support people with disabilities it really is.
I receive the lower rate of PIP while my severely disabled wife receives higher rate PIP
I'm absolutely not trying to put you off applying, but in the sense that fore-warned is fore-armed, just be aware that the whole process can be a pretty huge source of stress in its own right. The crucial thing is therefore how you approach the whole process and the most important thing in that context is to get support in place BEFORE you start even thinking very hard about it.
I have M.E. which is well known for being an automatic rejection for PIP, with most cases going to tribunal. Knowing that in advance would have helped me measure my expectations rather than going through the fairly hellish process of repeated rejection and appeal until, 18 months later, I was finally treated like a human being at the tribunal hearing. By far the most valuable source of guidance and support came from an online forum specifically focused on supporting people with M.E. - they were able to tell me (I only found out about them very late in the process) what to expect and what supporting evidence would carry most weight. By contrast the CAB 'specialist' in supporting PIP applications was almost useless because she had zero understanding of my health condition. YMMV of course.
For example, I was shocked to learn that the DWP pretty much discounts evidence presented by your G.P. because they assume that your G.P. has very little insight into how your condition affects your life day by day and also that your G.P. will be biased in your favour. This was a huge blow as my G.P. at the time was exceptionally well-informed, having been our family doctor for over 15 years.
By contrast a half an hour conversation with an occupational therapist which resulted in a letter I could present as evidence, seems to have carried infinitely more weight. That's totally absurd, but it's a broken system being run by people who are incentivised to reject as many applications as possible. Knowing that in advance would have been helpful - and possibly allowed me to take the rejections a bit less personally.
That said, my wife's disabilities, extensive and detailed medical history and the evidence that was immediately available from a broad range of medical and health professionals, made her application relatively straightforward - though that was now many years ago.
My point is that whatever your health conditions are, in the first place, seek out and connect with others who have already been through this process. Then treat it as much as possible as an administrative exercise, detaching and de-personalising wherever possible, because that is ALL it is as far as the DWP is concerned, no matter how 'nice', 'understanding' and 'sympathetic' the person on the end of the phone might appear or sound. They are not the ones making the decision!
In other words, the DWP will treat you like a number, so armour yourself with cynicism and gather your resources and support system so you have a solid foundation, before you even bother picking up the phone to apply. That said, remember that when you are awarded PIP, it's the date of that application that the award will be back-dated to. With the benefit of hindsight I can say with perfect honesty that they managed to intimidate me into NOT applying for about 5 years during which time I was eligible for PIP, which represents many thousands of pounds of support I will never receive. Senior management at DWP will see that as a successful disincentive strategy, not the utter failure to support people with disabilities it really is.