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George Farmer breaks down the cost of High Tech...50 gallons@$5,000.

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George usually steers away from asking people "How much?"..most people kind of shrug and say "Enough" or the like. But he did get that figure for this almost all ADA set up. So,for those who want a quick figure of "All the best"..this tells you.
 

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This is just a Wabi Sabi thought. "Are ADA Iwagumi maximum investment for minimum scape material?" Not that I said it the best way..but really,If you are using TwinStar,Stainless steel canister and low lead glass to keep Monte Carlo low and no other plants just rocks, that's super Wabi Sabi.
Of course if you have a few or many scapes in the home,one for that is so different,I see the fun in I suppose.
 

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"Are ADA Iwagumi maximum investment for minimum scape material?"
Hi, perhaps yes, however aquascaping means different things to different people. High end equipment is an investment in research, development and increased aesthetic design. You can certainly achieve results with less high end equipment, but the overall aesthetic of what surrounds the aquascape can be equally as important to some hobbyists.
More expensive equipment tends to have better design and is built to last. It is completely subjective and a personal choice, wether that be a choice in value for money, design or functionality…..or a mix of all three.
For me, how an aquascape as a whole fits into the home is important, the external equipment being as important as the scape within. Fortunately we are spoiled for choice now with many specialist stores, multiple manufacturers and endless equipment variations and there is something to suit every hobbyists wants and needs.
As an aside, Toms scape is a beauty, at 18 years old with this set up and knowledge imagine the future……
 
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I had an Eheim canister from the 70's until 15 years ago or so. The motor still pumped but in those days,70-100 gph was the going rate and then it would slow to less as the filter filled.
It's kind of funny that 10 years ago I bought a shop light for fluorescents and it was by far the best budget quality fixture I ever bought..the ballast is still working and it has a heavy duty flat cord. Only,getting the bulbs is near impossible. Irony,it's going to outlast the world of 40 watt bulbs.
 

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I told you there is something in the air about going to less high tech and still wanting that high tech look. It's even reverting to no filter for larger sized aquariums. I think what the world is seeing is that if you are going to keep a light fish load of small fish?..you don't need a fancy filter and sump. Also that quality lighting will grow fine plants in low tech also. It's a slower pace for sure. Much slower. But that also means you are not dunking your arm to trim plants every week with no end in sight-lol. I think that's what made MD go low and slow.
Soon,air stones for plant tanks will make a comeback as people realize they too make misty bubbles of atmosphere Co2 AND more oxygen too for plants and fish.
 

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Soon,air stones for plant tanks will make a comeback as people realize they too make misty bubbles of atmosphere Co2 AND more oxygen too for plants and fish.
You lost me with this one :) Air stones are sometimes used in planted tanks to increase O2 levels up to atmospheric equilibrium outside the photoperiod to offset plant respiration. During the photoperiod, an air stone or whatever method you use for surface agitation and gaseous exchange, will not increase CO2 levels above the 2-3ppm of atmospheric equilibrium...
 

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No,not above- but that 3ppm helps. The side effect too is that the bio media bacteria love aerated water. If you are doing filtered aquariums. This new natural way seems just to need light,food,warmth. I won't ever go that far with Rainbows short of winning the lotto and putting them in a 5,000 gallon aquarium.
 
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I credit the hi tech people for showing that you can have beautiful aquarium without fish stocked like Sardines and 2: The beauty of smaller fish in large aquariums. Nobody did that before. If they had a large aquarium? They put in large fish that lived a life of cramped quarters for years.
The middle ground now seems- keep the quality lighting,the enriched soil substrate, skip the Co2,but the fish are not putting any strain on the filter low or high tech if its something like 20 Cardinal tetras in 30 gallons and various tiny cleaning crew fish.
Now with the hardest to grow plants? Co2 might still be the only way. So,hi tech will always be around.
 
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