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Aquatic CAM plants question

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Hello all,

I’d like to know if there is any advantages of using CO2 at night in a tank with CAM plants; Sagittaria, Vallisneria, Isoetes?
 
Crassulacean acid metabolism (CAM) has mostly been studied in xerophytic plants. In these plants it's an adaptation to arid conditions, allowing the plant to photosynthesise during the day and exchange gases at night with minimal water loss. In aquatic plants the mechanism allows CO2 uptake at night when it is most abundant.

It would be an advantage to continue CO2 injection through the night if aquatic CAM species were exclusively limited to nocturnal CO2 uptake, but I doubt they are. As an aside, folk who inject CO2 24/7 regardless, have apparently observed better and healthier plant growth in species not known to utilise CAM. Either way, you could give it a go and see for yourself. But you'll need ensure the tank water remains well oxygenated at night.

 
It would be an advantage to use CO2 at night if aquatic CAM species were exclusively limited to nocturnal CO2 uptake, but I doubt they are.
The scientific evidence would agree with you Tim.

Quote.

"Furthermore, daytime inorganic carbon uptake is generally not inhibited and therefore CAM is considered to be a carbon-conserving mechanism. CAM in aquatic plants is a plastic mechanism regulated by environmental variables and is generally downregulated when inorganic carbon does not limit photosynthesis. "


Also found this.

Comparison of rates of underwater photosynthesis (PN) in the C3 and CAM isoetids​

The benefit of CAM in Littorella uniflora was evident in the data on underwater PN. Leaf tissues of L. uniflora sampled at the end of the dark period showed significantly higher rates of PN compared with leaves from the C3 plant but only when external CO2 supply was low and limiting (Fig. 4C); high external CO2 masked the benefit of CAM (Fig. 4D). This finding confirms previous studies of L. uniflora and other aquatic CAM plants that strongly indicate that CAM is of benefit only when environmental CO2 is scarce (Madsen, 1987; Keeley, 1998; Klavsen and Madsen, 2012).

 
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Thanks for the answer Tim and John, I’ll have a read through the link.

I have one more question; speaking about the global warming, I would like to know how many % of CO2 has been release out of the tank during both day and night time?
 
Thanks for the answer Tim and John, I’ll have a read through the link.

I have one more question; speaking about the global warming, I would like to know how many % of CO2 has been release out of the tank during both day and night time?
Ball Park figure 90 to 95 %
 
Goodness gracious! I might have to manually close my citric acid CO2 then…
I'm not sure how the bicarbonate used in the reaction is created, but if you are really worried about this, you could switch to sugar and yeast. Sugar comes from plants, which absorb their carbon from the atmosphere, therefore forming a closed carbon cycle where you release CO2 to the atmosphere, the plants absorb it and create sugar. There are, of course, CO2 "losses" with transportation and production processes, like heating.
 
Guys relax and enjoy the hobby guilt free, it's a force for good in a world gone insane. CO2 from planted tanks isn't going to cause an existential global crisis or contribute to one: even if the worst case apocalyptical claims about anthropogenic climate change are true, which I very much doubt 😉
 
Also when you appreciate that the average human breathes out around 1kg of CO2 each day, it puts in context the relatively tiny amount we use in the average CO2 injected tank where a kilo of CO2 lasts several weeks or months.
 
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