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One small Bristlenose pleco could clean the glass in photo, in under a week.lol As they grow larger though,they do tend to rasp on broad leaf plants if sufficient vegetable matter isn't available. I used to raise long finned albino bristlenose and trade the fry at local fish shop for store credit.

I would change 50% of water once a week.Sorry I don't know what fertilizer you are using or what directions call for, but 2 ml a day is not much more than a drop or two. I might try 5ml every day just before lights on if I could.

I were it me,knock light back to 5 hours, and get busy cleaning. Would take scissors to brown dead area in photo and use old tooth brush on wood,clean glass,Rake out what algae I could with old comb,tooth bush,bottle brush. Clean diffuser, and check to make sure CO2 is being distributed...

I sometimes see small patches of Cyano such as OP describes and pluck it off hard scape or substrate areas where it might appear. If it grows back,i repeat process. If however the stuff begins to appear all over,then bigger issues are at play me thinks. I run relatively low light and cooler...

The vallisneria being taller, closer to the light (assuming it has grown,)and possible CO2/nutrient deficiency,will be first to be affected. I have done as much while trying to provide enough light for carpet plant with No CO2,limited nutrient's. Taller plant's such as the vals,and crypt's,tips...

Helps to keep filters cleaned monthly rather than every 3 to 6 month's like some folk's do. Organic matter,detritus, not truly removed from tank until removed from filter material. Increased % of water changed and less food's would in my view help also. I rigged up small pump and hose to make...

Me wonder's what time does diffused light from yonder window break upon the tank? If diffused lighting hit's down low on the tank say late afternoon after light's off ,maybe it is not so diffused? This happens/happened in my living room tank about an hour before light's go off, and the sunlight...

Stock lighting you mention running for your 260 l consist's of what? Stock lighting for my 260 l was two 32 watt T8 bulb's which I would consider low light. Might also wonder where in the tank the drop checker is located since this seems to be what is being used to gauge possible content. Drop...

Plant's grow weak and grow very slowly without food with high or low light IMHO I do not use CO2 injection, but do use carbon supplement (Metricide14). I also feed a bit of macro/.micro nutrient's once or twice a week.(all submerged plants) If plant's in display tank are growing emersed,then...

PAR values from the two? Fluval Fresh and Plant 2.0 are significant for the plant's in photo,many other's which do not require much. I use the 48'' inch model.after researching PAR values which is all plants really know/care about, me thinks. When you say the tank has been fishless cycling, do...

Would not deviate from 4 hour light period for six to eight week's. Have you sourced some floating plant's yet to help shield the newish plant's from too much light for too long? With no fishes or shrimp,You could increase the CO2 bpm/bps. Have you a plan yet for fertilization to ensure plant's...

Plant's will need a little of all nutrient's macro's and micro's which they might get from soil based substrates but eventually,,the plant's will draw from the soil to the point where water column dosing is needed.(nutrient's in soil are finite without large fish population and food's and waste...

In my view,the substrate should be left alone,add more plant's as mentioned. Keep lighting at six hours for next three week's,dose nutrient's once a week at suggested range's for your size tank. Remove what cyno you can manually and maybe right before each weekly water change,, use small syringe...

Would reduce lighting intensity and duration that light's are on for the day first. Then maybe read through Algae sub forum here at UKAPS for idea's on what all might or can contribute to algae. Folk's here when I came to visit expected a little leg work ,or searching, out in front of asking...

Where is/are the diatom's?? Photo shows possibly a little on the glass in far right corner which could be wiped off with clean paper towel folded into fourth's. Cannot see much covering leaves of plant's. If it's only on the glass,then keep wiping it off till it get's tired of the harassment. if...

Is new stuff for those new to it.:oops: I view this as gob's of info for the thoughtful mind, and best of all,, it's free. Pick and sort what may apply to me, and save the rest for future pondering's I might explore more thoroughly. Fought many a brave battle with all manner of algae for many...

I have several wood pieces covered with the stuff in photo and routinely see shrimp's,guppy fry,baby bristlenose fry working it over. Have not moved the wood with anubia attached in a couple year's and am pleased that the stuff only grows on the wood and a couple large river stones I placed in...

Turkey baster serves my need's. (Don't tell the old woman)

Believe an aquarium is the only place that plant's see 10 + hour's of midday lighting be it low or high light day in ,day out.. In nature, the sun provides the light and it moves across the sky throughout the day. Many of the plant's due to shading by other plant's,tree canopy over head,or...

Low O2 level's and or organic matter in possible excess is when I experience the stuff. Keeping my filter's cleaned monthly seems to help with both issues. Also noted that when I run KNO3 lean,that the stuff more readily appears. (not sure of correlation)

Might try 6 to 8 hour photo period a day for first few week's and gradually increase if needed after black out and manual removal of what algae I could remove.

Might google "James algae guide"

Yes,I dose the trace mineral's CSM+B and iron from DTPA day after dosing KNO3,KH2PO4 for reason ian-m mentioned. All mineral's dosed once a week.

I have a four foot long 80 gal low tech tank with anubia attached to back glass via small suction cups. The anubia easily cover three quarter's of the back glass top to bottom . Expierienced BBA when I attempted to use 4 T5 bulbs over the tank for eight hours and ten inches above the surface of...

Perhaps the filter is in need of service (clean the mechanical filter media ) Make sure no one else is also feeding the fish.

Many thanks for the advice. Think I will get the scissor's out,and remove the affected leaves. Am planning to reset the tank with fresh soil,peat,cat litter mix this weekend for it has been nearly three year's running . Will remove the affected leaves then. Are more leaves unaffected than...

It appears I spoke too soon. Lighting mentioned above, proved to encourage spread of GSA on more than a few of the Anubia plants I have attached to the back glass, so I have since switched to three 32 watt T8 bulb's on for seven hour's. Am also limiting phosphate for the above dosing, which I...

I believe I would have peed in the sink while she wasn't looking.

I decided some year's back to consult with an expert. I asked a wise, old algae/moss backed snapping turtle,"what exactly causes the moss and algae to grow upon your shell old timer"? He begged that I place my ear a bit closer ,that he might whisper this secret to me but I balked out of fear...

I have three quarter's of back glass in four foot long tank covered with anubia attached to the glass with suction cups.(working on covering it all) I have the same algae on a couple older leaves of anubia down lower near the substrate,but none on anubia attached to glass high on the back closer...

Spring and summer month's ,I spend a considerable amount of time waste deep in pond's and lakes casting artificial lures among the lilly pad's and other aquatic vegetation or weed's for largemouth bass . Have often noted that while wading and casting my lure's that a group of lilly pad's,or...

I do not believe plant's can out compete algae for algae need's same thing's plant's need and way less % of these thing's.NO?

Wondering out loud about low temp's, but maybe lower lighting and ability of cooler water to hold more O2. Metabolisim's driven more by higher lighting, and maybe too warm of water temp's for some species of the aquatic weed's.? Lowering both, while maintaining nutrient supply/CO2 might be an...

Believe I read where plant's respire protein's,enzymes, and perhaps struggling plant's would respire more of everything, than plant's in optimum condition's. As for the link to the study, I fear it was/is way above my pay grade .:shy:

I recall when I first began keeping fishes(forty yrs ago) which were large South American cichlid's.(Oscar's,Dempsey's,etc) No plant's,no nutrient dosing in these tank's ,very low lighting but left on 24 /7. The BBA thrived in these tanks .(other kind's too) I over stocked,over fed,and seldom...

I keep cherry shrimp and noticed a fair amount of them being drawn into the filter as evidenced by the live and dead ones found in the filter at filter cleaning time(monthly). I also noticed bad smell when opening the filter not the usual wet dirt smell. I reduced feeding's to once a day or...

OCD comes to mind. Wish my tanks were as problematic.

Reduce light intensity,increase CO2 a little bit,remove manually that BBA that you can,keep filters clean which will help reduce excess organic content trapped In/on filter material,continue with EI dosing scheme. That's what I took from the rather nauseating thread and I am struck stupid by the...

I certainly hope so. Currently I have red ludwigia that is copper colored on top of leaves and red on underside. It is all along the back glass and to the surface. Problem I have is that I began the tank two years ago as low tech and all of the other plant's don't like too much light Crypt...

YES,YES,intensity is far more important than duration. Don't much matter if you reduce duration the light's are on if it's too much for CO2 available. Four hours or fourteen hours will still be too much . I do believe if one want's to grow more demanding plant's,that low tech may not be their...

Yes good maint trimming ,cleaning of filters regularly,water changes, are all something we signed on for or should have but if lighting is too much ,,then it just is for the amount of CO2 you can provide. Some folks can't increase the CO2 that they have without gassing the fish. What are they...

Low CO2 will bring the algae if lighting is far exceeding the CO2/nutrient's available and it happens with frightening quickness in high tech tanks.

To me EI is a tool, that eliminates one part of the equation with regards to plant growth by ensuring non limiting nutrient's. Does not ensure no algae, nor does any other method if ...lighting is driving demand past available CO2. Lighting is a tool that drives demand for CO2 and...

90 % of people insist on blasting the tank with their uber $$$ lighting. I belong to several forums, and could not disagree more with the estimate that 90 % of people are having trouble with the EI method.(some /most suffer from self inflicted problems) Theyr'e trouble begins and ends with the...

Well I shall take on board everything I can and form a opinion of my own which seem to be as popular as Bar-B-Q recipe's. I see the BBA in my own low tech NON CO2 tanks but it only grows in a tiny clump hgere or there on a rock.piece of wood,or possibly spray bar. The method of reducing it for...

While I agree with his method of using the fishes to determine the max amount of CO2 he can use for it is safer for the fishes,I cannot find merit with his method of trying to dose only what the plant's actually need. Would not the plant mass increase daily/weekly (assuming they aren't dying)...

Is it not the light that drives the demand for everything the plant's/algae use for growth? Does anyone think temperature's play a role in metabolisim's of plant's and maybe algae and it's proliferation? Is there more than one way to grow aquatic plant's? What makes one an expert? Why do low...

And why would you be open to limiting phosphates?

Is odd to me that after six month's,that a filter swap could/would cause such a ammonia/nitrites issue but this may have been trigger for the algae. If the tank ran without algae issues for six month's,then you should be able to back track any changes other than the filter swap to maybe get a...

I have grown anubia,crypts,in tanks with no lighting other than that which comes through a window across the room. They grew very slowly with no CO2 and only fish food/fish waste for nutrient's. Why I wonder did algae not grow in these tanks also? Lighting was very low except for maybe a couple...

Just agreeing with post # 12 submitted by Clive as well as relaying my own experiences . I guess chemicals are more fun for some to fart around with than other's. Would seem to me however that if condition's are ripe for it's return,then chemical treatment's would bring possibly only temporary...

Reducing light intensity in low tech work's wonder's but hard to move folks off their high dollar lighting. I have moved plant's from moderate light, to very low light (ie) 4x54 watt T5's Ten inches above water's surface,thirty inches to the substrate, to one 32 watt T8 and seen algae retreat...

My experiences with diatoms .. They appear and go away with no extra effort on my part. (just time passing)

I'm with you on the spider's. Approx twenty year's ago, I was wading through some chest high weed's just before daylight, to access the bank's of my favorite pond. After arriving at the edge of the pond and making the first cast of the morning,I felt something on my arm and without giving it a...

I should think four tablespoon's per 10 gal as mentioned for algae treatment of even 3% hydrogen peroxide as 10 to 15 min dip, would have significant affect on bacterial lesion's,pathogen's on tropical's assuming correction's are made to fishes enviornment that would hep prevent re-occurences...

Anyone tried treating bacterial infection's on fish in similar fashion?

Shrimp's would be my choice. Many are those who are keen to see that algae is not a problem and take measures to prevent it . Then there is no need for fishes whose primary food is non existent. Many also purchase various pleco's as "clean up crew", but fail to see the folly in this if one...

Oto's primary food is algae. Being wild caught,,they may or may not take to vegetable matter. Would not purchase these fish if I didn't have what theyr'e used to eating. Maybe some amano shrimp.

I think more than a few people have differing idea's as to what plant mass in needed to work as you say. Larger number's of fish require larger plant mass, and this is especially true during new tank set up's before bacteria has colonized substrate,decor.Lot's of folk's get in trouble with...

Oh,, I see. My thought's were on the sudden loss of filter material loaded with bacteria and number's of fishes. Realize plant's make excellent bio filter, but is unclear to me how much plant mass it takes for loss of filter material to not have possibly negative effect.

Don't know that I would remove filter media from filter completely, but would certainly clean it along with hoses ,spraybar. This alone could increase flow. Might move spray bar to middle of back wall aimed toward's front glass. Agree with cutting two bulb's ,and powerhead such as Koralia to...

You have another thread that appear's today with same tank,same fish, and it has/had light fixture. Perhap's the light has been removed? How many hour's per day was the light on before alage appeared?

I am wondering if the algae is all that bad.:D Can't see much algae in photo,color look's good on plant's,CO2 appear's to be at maximum for present fauna,plenty of flow,nutrient's are being provided per EI.? I might be tempted to do as Tom (Plantbrain) suggested, and add several more crypt...

The one pad will get dirtier,faster than four pad's. In my mind,,I am trying to catch (filter) as much particulate with the mechanical media as I can.Flow and filtration are sometimes confused. The more media that the water passes through,the more get's caught . One could make the case that in...

I use the eheim 2217 just as it is depicted in third photo. Sound's as though your filter maint is good.

Might also consider monthly cleaning of filter,reduce food amount's offered to maybe once a day till the algae is cleared up. Light,, perhap's in excess,and organic's from fish food,fish waste,dirty filter,create ideal condition's for algae. Some folks only clean filter's every six month's,feed...

With two T5 bulb's,(54watt?) No CO2,I might consider reducing the lighting period to no more than eight hour's,raising light fixture above the tank further,or using something like floating plant's, to diffuse some of the light. If fixture is resting directly on the tank, maybe some window screen...

I don't know,, I've seen BBA (look's like it to me), in pond's growing from wood,rock's where there is no flow to speak of .

Hmmm, been cleaning HOB Aquaclear filter's for a few year's this way. No fish death's .

Could boil it in large stock pot, or pressure wash it at car wash? Could also run it through auto dishwasher with no soap (note... Might do this while the wife isn't around) :shh:

I believe If no CO2 is being injected,I would drop two of the 54 watt? bulb's. Are the Discus young Discus, being fed multiple times a day? Water changes frequently? I think it may be wise to mention any fertilizer's or lack thereof. Add more plant's.

Could it be a combination of too much light and organic's? I ask this because I have seen firsthand, diatom's in newly established tank's without any light at all in some tank's I have started. Why does it appear to go away of it's own accord in many tank's if too much light alone is the...

Yep, I agree. As much info as one can provide makes things much easier. Not many willing, nor should it be expected,,to troll back through possibly dozen's of post's to obtain helpful info. Some folks are maybe new to forum(s), and possibly don't know that all info one can provide is more...

I believe the OP has mentioned in another post/thread, that tank is newly established ,CO2 injected, 180 litre tank with 4x 24 watt T 5 lighting.(4 hrs a day?) Fertilzers were also mentioned but I am not familiar with them or CO2 enhancement so I shall :silent: now. Am completely familiar with...

Apisto's would maybe not tolerate the Amano Shrimp or the cory's at nesting time should they indeed spawn. Larger cory's would prolly stand a better chance, but seem to be drawn by possibly scent of eggs to nesting area's. They are either incredibly stupid,or persistent, considering the...

I might consider some Amano shrimp for this tank to help police the bottom along with the cory's. They are too large to be viewed as food by the cory's, and they enjoy feeding on any decaying matter that you can't easily remove with vacuum. :wink:

I don't have algae on glass but I use clean paper towel folded into fourths, to clean glass on my tanks taking care not to allow tiny snails to get between towel and glass. :wink:

Ceg, My apologies If I appear dense or (daft) at times, I struggle to remember much, due to a form of ADD . Medications help some ,and I have less trouble in the A.M after meds, than later in the day. Have read JamesC's algae guide several times,is excellent info. I pay little homage to...

I believe were it me,, I would see that plant's were receiving all macros and micronutient's and observe the plant's for a couple weeks before increasing CO2,flow. In this way One could be reasonably certain as to what one thing made improvement or not.If you provide all nutrient's in non...

Black Ruby Barbs and Multispinosa (rainbow cichlids) are the only fishes I have kept that ate hair algae and even then,,they must be kept hungry or will much prefer fish foods. And they aren't for tanks with delicate plant's. As mentioned,keeping them hungry also results in delicate plant's...

Recently set up 300 L Non CO2,low light,low tech tank and quickly discovered that I was trying to run too much light. Under lower light there is less demand for nutrients and CO2. I began with T5 bulbs at around 108 watts 6500 K which increased the demand for nutrient's and CO2 which I could...

Sounds like a fair proposition.