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Ok, that is an excellent explanation, so just to double check I have understood it, What I should do is set up my planted tank just as I like it then fiddle around with supplement's till I am happy with plant growth and there is no build up of excess co2 etc. ?

OK, thanks that was a very helpful answer.

Ok, well I have not used co2 before so I can't properly weigh up the pro's! I am getting off topic and I don't like arguing! And yes I do agree that some glass ware is very elegant I love that ADA thermometer and the drop checkers etc. Is easy carbo a liquid supplement?

Ok, thanks I get it all now, but I am sorry you cannot mock me for calling co2 ugly and expensive, they are not cheap I don't think you can argue that? And I can't see anything that would be aesthetically pleasing in a CO2 injection kit? I think that I will try the yeast bottle for a bit to see...

OOO, now I get what you mean, I just thought you meant it in a different way, yep, It just mean's that you have to remember that if you are going to supplement one aspect then you have to supplement all of them or it is a waste of time! OK, I kinda get it with the eco-sphere, I think you have...

Ok, sure, I am looking at having a fairly heavily planted tank and although I don't want to go for the whole high-tech idea I am not going as basic as El natural, so I am after a little bit of a compromise, I disagree with what you say about all the other factor's involved with the animals...

I am just wondering if there are any things you can put into your tank that will introduce co2 naturally? Like if you put in chalk for calcium, would that work, if it is calcium carbonate, what happens to the carbon and oxygen? Also I don't see why people are all so crazed about using ugly...