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I have another one... Well, two :lol: Sorry, large pic: http://deviant-uk.org/pics/uploads/IMG_20130529_120653.jpg Interested in what both of these are. I'm looking for a shrub to fill a gap in the garden, in a mostly shady spot. I like the small leaves of both of these two.

It's hard to judge scale from the photo, but I think it could be correct. It should be pretty small and compact though. If you google image search for coral pellia, you can see a few comparison shots with regular pellia etc. One in particular looks similar to your photo.

Looks like an odd thing with your image hosting. I've edited your post to show just a link that can be clicked on...

Sorry Jim, can't see the photo :/

Any photos? What was it supposed to be? Is it possible you have it in emerged form?

I think that C. Legroi is actually C. Walkeri "legroi", a sub species I guess. Probably very similar :)

Tropical setups just require an appropriate heater to maintain the water temp. Your average tropical tank will run at around 25 - 27 degrees centigrade, but this will depend on the fish you keep. If you already have cold water fish (ie white cloud minnows, goldfish etc) then not really worth...

You can get away with Anubias and Java ferns as well. Any reason for cold water?

So you would say this would be OK in something on the lower light end of the scale, say 11w over 10 or 20 litres?

Hi Ant. Welcome to UKAPS. Anubias have a rhizome, which is the thick root that the leaves grow off. If you have a reasonable amount of rhizome, a good few centimetres, you can cut it, but you need to use something sharp to make sure it's a clean cut. Also, anubias needs to be tied to rocks...

Everything I've read about Buce is that it should be treated like Anubias, and tied to wood/rock. I'd love to give it a try :)

I was reading about this the other day. Looks like a nice creeping carpet plant :) I'm assuming it's more of a high light lover.

I've done what Alastair suggests before, with amazon frogbit. works well, but make sure you seal up the ends of the silicone tubing well, as it will fill with water slowly and sink otherwise! :D

That's sort of appropriate, as I'm currently about 4 miles away from Kenilworth. Thanks again Darrel. As always, you are the fountain of knowledge :) I wonder if I could get it to grow in a wabi-kusa or something. I suspect it likes dry conditions if it tends to favour growing on walls. I...

I have another one :) This is growing on the wall outside work. It's been there for several years, spreading around here and there. I love it :) Untitled by Casa-Steve, on Flickr Any ideas what this is? (sorry for the blurry photo, it's windy outside!)

Excellent, thanks for that Darrel. I had a feeling it wasn't Hydrocotyle, but it really has that look. I'm thinking of transplanting it to a pot as it's been in this spot for about 5 years and that's as big as it's managed to get. I'll have a read around propagation etc.

Post your garden plant ID requests here! Thought it would be good to keep them separate from aquatic plant chat :) So, I'll start. Can anyone ID this plant that I have in the garden? It looks a lot like some sort of Hydrocotyle but I don't recall what it actually is. If memory serves, I...

Manure!

Staurogyne gets my vote. Should be a nice transition to the background plants.

That's a good point! You have a lot of HC growing, why buy more? :D

Would be interested to see the pond :)

Straight from the source! Can't get much better info than that Martin! :)

Exactly :)

It sounds like your pond might be the way to go :) You could potentially split the order between the pond and the set up tank, leaving the plants in their pots in the tank... That way, if one fails at least you still have some plants...

I have very little experience with 1-2 grow, but everything I've heard suggests they can keep for a long time. I have some 1-2 grow weeping moss at home which is sat on a shelf (admittedly with a lamp over it and some other plants) and has been fine for over a week. It was mailed to me and sat...

What temperature is your pond? Also, is the large tank empty at the moment? If it is, and as these are emergent plants, it may be worth using the empty tank to hold the plants, keeping them moist and giving them light. If you wanted to put them in your pond it would depend on if it gets...

I read that high light might keep it compact, which doesn't sound ideal for a low tech!

I remember George had this in a nano tank a few years back, attached to some wood/moss: George's Nano | Page 5 | UK Aquatic Plant Society Lovely little scape, that :) Can Pinnatifida be kept small and compact?

That's a pretty plant! Nymphoides Aquatica also looks promising. Thanks for the info :)

Just wondered what the smallest nymphaea species was that would be suitable for using in an aquarium. Googling smallest nymphaea I get Nyphaea thermarum. Not sure about whether this would be suitable though (for submersed growth).

Before lights on, when they're asleep. Catch them off guard! Then they can't escape ;)

Interesting stuff! have you got the tank yet? Will this be something with livestock as well, or just plants?

H. Polysperma can go pinky red, and has whitish veins on the leaves: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=hygrop ... 20&bih=989

Looks like a hygrophila to me. The difference in leaves is most likely because it's in the middle of adapting to to submerged growth, so the lower leaves are immerse growth still (and will probably die off).

A pot will generally split into about 5 to 10 stems. For perspective, I used just under 4 pots in my nano, but I think I could of stretched 3 pots:

Hey John. I'm growing this too and have the same thing. I'm wondering if it's changing form. I'm dosing Step 1, Special Shade and Brighty K, with injected CO2 and occasional Easy Carbo. It's got new growth growing from the crown but it's not enough to be able to see a difference yet.

Need a couple more posts before you can see the sell/swap/donate forum :) But yes, you can usually find someone willing to re-home them, either for some money, or for the cost of postage. Offering them up for a donation to the forum us always nice :)

It's not Acorus Gramineus Pusillus or something along those lines is it? When you say "grass" do you mean very fine leaves like Eleocharis, or slightly broader leaves like a sagittaria subulata or rush sort of plant?

It can be, yep :) Nice pant, but gets quite big!

Cuttings are usually fine with stem plants but potted gives you a stronger plant in my opinion. Sometimes you might not get the same amount from a potted plant, but I think that this isn't always the case. My preference is potted plants :) As for pads, that's usually things like mosses...

No real advice but I'd love to see some photos of your indoor pond :)

I've always been partial to Glosso :)

Java moss will indeed attach itself to wood/rough stone after a while. When a Java fern produces a lot of plantlets, it can be a sign that things aren't quite right. It will generally produce them anyway though. It's best to remove plantlets, as the mother plant will be diverting energy into...

Definitely not Cyprus Helferi, as the roots on your plant are quite thick. C. Helferi has quite fine roots, like vallis etc.

Potted crypts will be around the price you've seen, but you can get quite a few plants in one pot if you divide it well. Often 5 - 10 individual plants :)

I'm guessing, but is it not the case that floating plants would release oxygen via their roots? I may be completely wrong on that ;)

In that case, no I wouldn't attempt to split it. On the plus side, you see the little horn like growths. They are new plantlets growing by the looks of it. Once it establishes it should spread well :)

More than likely. It depends how many rhizomes there are to be honest! It's like any other crypt in that respect :)

Interesting questions Gerard. I have no idea to be honest, but I know that hybrids can quite often revert back to their original form. I believe this is the case with many "marble" leaf plants etc. I'd be interested in getting hold of a few other java fern types, such as "Trident" (although I...

No probs, just be a little more patient :) That Echinodorus might be E. Osiris? Nice plant :)

Sorry, but please don't bump your threads within minutes of posting them. Folks will read/respond when they are able. It's very annoying. Also, please consider posting multiple images in one post. It's just good forum etiquette. Ok, annoyances aside, Not 100% on the first, but maybe E...

Photos?

That looks nice :) The Bolbitis "diformis" might be an option though?

I've had mixed experiences with Plants alive to be honest. It depends what plants you've ordered. Some will fare better than others. If they were despatched Tuesday you should have them by now. What postage was it? I wouldn't send plants anything less than first class personally.

Congrats :) Did it sprout many more shoots?

Marimo balls will actually flatten out over time anyway, though quite a long time! When keeping them long term you have to turn them to maintain their shape. I think that happens naturally in their native environment with currents rocking them about on the lake bed :) Edit: A pic in natural...

By pail, are you talking bucket etc? If it's for several days, they should be OK but it does depend on plants. Crypts, for instance, will probably start to melt (though they'll still grow back after re-planting).

The bulb might be in a dormant state perhaps? I know that they can do that, but not specifically after breaking away from the plant...

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It could be from the tissue culturing process maybe? I don't know if AquaFleur do the whole tissue culturing process like Tropica do (I have no idea how AF grow their plants) Unusual to say the least :)

Pogostemon makes a nice carpet, but it can grow quite bulky. How big is your tank? Marsilea sort of looks like Glosso when it grows in, but is a very slow grower from past experience (though I don't think I grew it in the best of conditions). It would look smaller and quite neat :)

It's either going to be a lily or an aponogeton :)

You must have magic water! :) I guess the plant has come out of hibernation and has to send leaves up ASAP to get light.

I responded to your Plant ID post, but I see here you say it is a bulb? Sounds like a lily to me, Nymphea something or other :) Might need to wait and see if the leaves roll out/grow bigger to ID it.

That looks like a lily of some sort to me? From the pictures, it looks like the leaf is set to roll open and flat, like a lily pad. I might be totally wrong though. Can you remember what the root/rhizome looked like? I believe lily's tend to be bulbs, but again I could be wrong :)

If you talk to a1Matt or LondonDragon, they usually have some interesting mosses which they may be willing to part with :)

Ask in the for sale/trade section :) There are several members who keep mosses.

Re: Help with ID's please. No, definitely not Hygro polysperma. That's much bigger, and the leaves are longer :) It also has more visible veins on the leaves.

Re: Help with ID's please. Looks more like bacopa caroliniana. The stems look thicker than australis. Kinda looks like Rotala sp. "nanjenshan" but I'm not too sure. These aren't crypts :) They're stem pants. Not sure on the first one. I was thinking alternanthera reineckii but that...

It looks a little non-aquatic, or at least in a immersed state.

Can you post more information about your setup? Tank size/amount of filtration/CO2/fert dosing etc etc? Sounds like a defficiency, most likely lack of CO2 I would guess.

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It can get quite intertwined with itself, and then start growing ontop of itself. Thinning it out can help, but then that's quite difficult too as it forms long chains of plantlets which you have to be carful of when pulling it out (otherwise you end up in a bigger mess!).

How deep is your substrate? It might be not enough depth for the roots perhaps?

Nice one :)

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If they're coming from abroad, you'll probably find they have no leaves. I've had balansae from Malaysia (AquaticMagic) and I've just planted the rhizomes, almost completely covered and they've done well :)

Split this into a new thread as it has some OK info, and was hijacking a for sale thread :)

Hi Jon. If you have some tweezers, these will help you a lot. Plant each stem individually by pushing them into the substrate. It's good to strip some of the lower leaves so they aren't under the substrate, where they will rot. Hope that helps :)

Re: [WANTED] Looking for Staurogyne. Hehe. You kinda pinch them and pull them off the stem. If you look at the top of the stem you can see the newest leaves in the crown, as they are nice and lush and smaller than the rest of the leaves. You pinch them between your fingertips and tug them...

Re: [WANTED] Looking for Staurogyne. Hi Andy. It's similar to many stem plants. If you pinch out the new crown of leaves growing at the top of the stem it should spur the plant to bush out somewhat. This is also true with taller stems, where you cut them low down so they fork into two, where...

Well, the way I see it is that you'll have cut away most of the plant's nutritional uptake method, ie the leaves. So less nutrients would be absorbed until it starts to grow back. Obviously it depends on the setup. If theres lots of other plants in the tank, then probably not relevant :) I...

You can get away with cutting all the leaves off and just leaving the rizhome like I did here: Before: After: That's blyxa on the left and Narrow java on the right. Everything grew back nice and clean/fresh. Just make sure you give it all the right conditions and consider that things...

Hey Jon. Yeah, that's Mark's Maidenhead Aquatics scape. I think the Oliver Knott comment is due to the way Mark planted the foreground plant, which is the same way Oliver Knott does it :)

Hi Pike. You've linked to one of Mark (Saintly)'s scapes, was that the intention? The bushy/grassy plant in the front/middle of the tank is Blyxa Japonica :)

Yep, it's a stem plant :) Also known as "Watersprite".

I was going to jibe you about loosing your touch mate, but that's clearly not the case! :)

:lol: Is it an Aquafleur or Tropica anubias mate? Might be worth a quick email to them for clarification?

Hey Mark. From a quick hunt around, variagation generally refers to colour morphs. So a variegated anubias should be a different colour (not sure what difference) to a "standard" anubias. I've found no reference to not flowering though, but I've only had a quick 5 minute hunt :) I've never...

HM = Hemianthus Micranthemoides. Also known as Pearl Grass (mostly in the States I think).

Re: Recommedations on Low Light Plants I'd consider extending the CO2 by an hour, so it goes off an hour before lights out, just to be sure this isn't part of the problem. I'd say flow could be an issue too. It looks like this might be going down the troubleshooting path, so I'm going to edit...

Cut the tops off, as Sam says. if you look at the stem of one of your P. helferi plants you can see nodes, where the leaves grow out of. Snip with sharp scissors just above one of these nodes. Then take the cutting and replant it (you might need to take of the bottom few leaves).

That's either a young Crypt. Balansae plant, or possibly a Crypt. Spiralis. My money is on Balansae though :) Edit: Infact, I'm almost certain that's a young balansae!

Eleocharis Acicularis supposedly can grow quite tall, but in my experience it doesn't get much over 5" or 6". Eleocharis Vivipara on the other hand can get quite tall, but grows plant nodes towards the ends, so is often trimmed for aesthetics. This might be the one to go for. I believe there...

It's quite normal for crypts to melt. I've heard from other members that increasing CO2 can help reduce the amount of melt you get though.

You'll find that HM spreads horizontally and vertically at the same time when it grows. It should form a nice bush! Just be careful you don't let it get too thick else you'll get die off of the lower stems. Just give it a good trim when it's looking too thick :)

Not likely :) HM is similar, and when in it's emmersed form is quite short. It should transform and start to grow taller.

Indeed, some vallis species don't react well to liquid carbon supliments. Have you seen Cyperus Helferi? Lovely plant and looks similar, though I prefer the leaf on Cyperus personally :)

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Pesky loaches :lol: On the snail front, I found my apple snails munched from the base of the stem generally, little blighters... :roll: