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Yeah they do the same to my hydrophillia aswell when it reaches a certain level of growth, just as it is starting to bush out. Just bought 4 SAE but 3 died after a couple of days but gonna get some more. They might be a better alternative to ottos ?

How much are your local fish shops charging for Denison barbs? Mine have a couple of bigger ones at £40 each! £20 each for the smaller size, rip off if you ask me, but a lovely fish all the same!

Cool .... I've yet to have otto's in my tanks but they are No.1 on my list when my new tank is up and running. Hope the little guys survive, how do you sex them?

Lovely, just make sure you have somewhere to sell/give fry to when they are ready, otherwise you will have alot of kribs on your hands.

I use Aquarian flakes, frozen bloodworm, daphnia and brine