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not sure if anyone even try to follow my protocols #6

but your kit contain dry salts. I just want to make sure that I understood this correctly, so you are saying that you find it difficult to use the dry salts? or difficult to make the solution from the dry salts? this hobby is fun but can come up with many challenges, am just trying to save you...

am not sure what is available in your country but here is a good start. the Average numbers: Ca 40.7 Mg 5.7 Na 34.4 Ph 7.8 (looks like I made an error on this earlier, but now corrected) DKH/DGH around 7.0 Average. I would recommend raising the Mg just a little bit more, you can use...

I believe you meant to write N- 25 as 25 ppm NO3. otherwise 25 ppm N would be 110 ppm NO3. judging by the picture, it appear to look like csm+b which I personally consider as a terrible product. ask the seller to verify if this is csm+b. I Would suggest getting a better trace Mix, let me know...

Can you post a closeup pictures of what you are refering to?

Are you using csm+b ? Anyway, these are classic symptoms of over fertilization and improper dosing.

@palcente #1 calcium nitrate (highly react with CO3) Urea Monopotassium phosphate (can cause issues) Magnesium sulphate (source of So4, also react with CO3) potassium carbonate (source of CO3) #2 calcium nitrate (react with SO4) urea Monopotassium phosphate (can cause issues) potassium...

23.66 gram of this product mixed into 500 ml solution, dosed at 20 ml per 50 gallon (189.27 liter) Fe 0.1 (0.06 ppm DTPA Fe, 0.04 ppm EDDHA Fe) Mg 0.345 Mn 0.015 (bit low for Mn when compared to Fe:Mn ratio) I use mathematic formulas to get these numbers, I may have posted the...

by now I believe many hobbyist are using this, can anyone share more picture updates on this? has anyone tried this with the following: 100% RO water Mineralized to Calcium 10 ppm and Magnesium 4 ppm then weekly dose: N 3 (1.4 Urea-N, 1.62 NO3-N) this will add 7.18 ppm NO3, Rest of the N...

its good to experiment because non chelated Micros are more prone to oxidization and Precipitation. but, if it still doesn't resolve the issues then we need to look somewhere else, but Fe and Mn are usually at fault under such scenario. Magnesium can also be a problem but in your case, there is...

that wasn't based on weekly dose but if I were to dose that, I would have dosed 20ml per 50 gallon 3x a week (high tech setup) which is 60 ml total. but i see some problems with this: Boron is not included, I assume they are relying on natural water which usually contain some Micros including...

@MaterialCrab in case if you were still interested in using that fertilizer, the numbers looks something like this: 29.58 gram phostrogen plant food mixed into 500 ml solution, dosed at 20 ml per 50 gallon (189.27 liter) N 1 (0.125 ppm NH4-N and 0.875 ppm Urea-N) P...

I recommend keeping the old soil, it will act as an nutrient absorbers and you will highly benefit from it especially while using Urea/NH4 as liquid fertilizer. do you test for NO3 levels in the aquarium? also, how much of filter media are you using in your filters?

can you clarify this? I was bit confused on this part "but my soil is old" and "actually I have new soil"

yes if you do 90-100 % change then you add 10 ppm Ca and 4 ppm Mg, afterward every time you do any 50% water change, you add 5 ppm Ca and 2 ppm Mg.

try increasing the Mn a little bit, you can even use it at 1:1 Fe:Mn ratio so that mean 0.1 ppm Mn and 0.1 ppm Fe and observe the plants. what kind of soil do you use? do you have have any root tabs added to it?

Magnesium is already covered at the water changes. by observing your plants from this picture #150 it appear as you may be dealing with Iron issues, if you rule out the Iron then it could be related to Mn. we won't know unless you play around with this.

am not sure if you are able to find Individual Chelated Micros in Türkiye ? if you have the budget, you can look into this as well, just be aware your room now going to look like chemical lab :) you may also be able to help your local hobbyists as well

@hasan66 you can also play with something like this: 500 ml, 5 ml per 75 liters: 7.16 gram Nh4Cl N 0.25 Cl 0.63 13.574 grams KNO3 NO3 1.11 N 0.25 K 0.7 4.3 grams KH2PO4 PO4 0.4 P 0.13 K 0.16 8.04 grams Urea N 0.5 you can target 10 ppm Ca using CaSO4 and 4 ppm...

But most plant here don't look that bad at all. There appear to be some minor algae on some of the older growth. You may only need few minor tweaks at this point. What lights are you using?

@hasan66 do you have NH4cl ?

Copper is required for many enzyme activities in plants and for chlorophyll, so little extra copper maybe helpful. Almost all my recipes usually have little extra copper. The max weekly dose of between 0.006 to 0.014 is plentiful. aromatica did quite well for me even under much lower micros...

If you still want to use this, the recipe look something like this: 500 ml, 5 ml per 75 liters: 18.75 gram MICROMIX Fe 0.1 (0.04 EDTA Fe, 0.06 DTPA Fe) Mn 0.0375 B 0.03 Zn 0.05 Cu 0.0025 Mo 0.0025

Am not sure why would you want to do that when you currently have full control over your Micros and Fe and can design them however you want.

0.5 ppm N is about 2.2 ppm NO3 if KNO3 was used, but I use the following: 1 ppm N: 0.23 N from KNO3 ( 1 ppm NO3) 0.27 N from NH4NO3 (0.6 ppm NO3, rest NH4) 0.5 N from Urea So as you can see I only dose 1.6 ppm NO3 and rest of it is ammonium based. If only KNO3 was used, it would have been...

I remember during those days I was already accidently adding 2 ppm Ca and 8 ppm Mg before I came across with the MCI Method. while it did produced some great results but I believe this was rather due to secondary effects or certain ratios at play. I tried correcting the GSA during that time...

sorry about the late response. I would give it a 2 weeks before we make some changes if needed. we may switch to Nh4cl, KNO3, MgNo3 and remove the urea or reduce it little bit. am not 100% sure about the small growth, but this could be the results from sudden 90% water change, let me know if you...

@macek.g am looking forward to this experiment. anyway, me and @plantnoobdude may have used different type of chemicals so this could change some of the results, but lets see what happens. It looks something like this in my case: Recipe #1 RO water Mineralized to: CaSo4: Ca 10 S 8.0006 dGH...

CaCl2.2H2O the food grade is fine, look at the label to see the ingredient.

I cannot remember the TDS from top of my head, but if you have a TDS meter you should able to test it easily. I change 25-100% water change every 2-3 weeks or whenever needed, but for standard regime, 25% water change every week or 50% water every 2 weeks should be sufficient. what is...

How my Regime works: these numbers stays constant (During 100% RO water Mineralization): Ca. 10 Mg. 3-4 these numbers can vary: N 1 P 0.13 K 0.8 if you add 0.5 ppm N daily, which will also add 0.4 ppm K and 0.065 ppm P. these numbers are likely to be up taken daily (estimated), next day...

I just didn't like how it adds KH as well as Odd ratio of the Minerals. it could still be a good product for general purpose, but not perfect if you want to learn about plants.

this is one of the valid reason

Hi LMuhlen, might be best if I could View the Water report and we can go from there. But, if you have say 30 ppm Calcium in the water, it would be good idea to maintain something like this: Ca 30 Mg 9.38 K 2.82 if you could maintain the above, you truly only need to add N and P for Macros and...

that is fine, you can add 8.04 grams Urea instead of 14.32 gram Nh4Cl. but this will change how the Nitrogen become available to the plants, Urea isn't same as dosing NH4. even though Urea ultimately turns into NH4. as mentioned earlier, I have used NH4Cl without the issues you have...

something like this: N 2.68 P 0.2 K 2.06 above recipe #116 N 3 P 0.4 K 2.4

@hasan66 75 liter RO water Mineralization: 1.611 grams CaSO4.2H2O Ca 5 S 4.0 dGH 0.7 1.375 grams CaCl2.2H2O or 1.038 grams CaCl2 anhydrate Ca 5 Cl 8.85 dGH 0.7 2.281 grams MgSO4.7H2O Mg 3 S 3.96 dGH 0.7 500 ml solution, 5 ml per 75 liter 14.32 gram Nh4Cl N...

when you decide to make the switch, make sure you perform at least two 80%-90% water changes. just curious, were you dosing 20 ml in your 75 liter aquarium?

I have never observed the plant turning black and I dose NH4 in almost all my recipes. the recipe in that picture is for Micros, not Macros. I don't think you can expect the best results as long as "AF Mineral Salt" is being used, because it kind of goes against what am trying to recommend...

you are more than welcome to change the ratio of B and Zn to 0.014 : 0.007 if you like, but I strongly believe the issues are non related to Micros during this time. we can also change your Macros if you like? far as Tropica goes, it almost always gives good results, we can even clone it...

@hasan66 how were the plants before you started making these Micros/Macros Recipes? I suggest no longer using the "aqua forest mineral salt" and switch to the recommendation few posts back. have you tried the new Micros with your previous/Older Macros?

@hasan66 how's everything going?

follow this ^ yep you will start with 200 ml Distilled water and then add all the chemicals/salts listed on the recipe for Solution #2. stir and mix this solution and you will notice that its no longer a 200 ml solution because chemicals/salt, potassium sorbate, vinegar has added the volume to...

I believe this was due to the error on my part, its corrected now. 250 ml solution #2 start with 200 ml (or little less) distilled water and then add the following: add 0.1g potassium sorbate add 5ml white vinegar add 1.071 gram Fe DTPA 7% add 0.208 gram EDDHA Fe 6% add 0.625 gram EDTA Fe 6%...

which part? I use mathematic to calculate everything, some people use Rotala Butterfly calculator and some people use IFC Aquarium Fertilizer Calculator this one is simple 75x2 = 150 you just double the grams in those recipes and get the same ppm.

correction made to add 0.625 gram EDTA Fe 6% updated the recipe to 6% EDTA Fe , I have never seen the 6% EDTA here in the USA, most common one is 13% anyway, DTPA 11% is better than the DTPA 7% because it also lower the PH to significant number. you can try to get that in the future.

@hasan66 250 ml solution #1 start with 200 ml distilled water and then add the following: add 0.1g potassium sorbate add 5ml white vinegar add 2.58 gram MnSO4*H2O add 0.5 gram Zinc Sulfate Monohydrate 35.5% add 1 gram H3BO3 add 0.345 gram CuSO4*5H2O add 0.1 gram Na2MoO4*2H2O once fully...

is this a typo? EDTA Fe is usually 13% either way is fine but something like this: Cacl 5 CaSO4 5 Mgso4 3 K2So4 1

remind me again what DTPA Fe you have/ 11% ? and you are targeting 0.1 ppm Fe?

even with that precision, I wouldn't recommend it. give me few minutes and let me make something for you, which would be better option. anyway, you do indeed have the wrong Zinc selected for your recipe. what you have is the "Zinc Sulfate Monohydrate 35.5% "

Above Product: GH: 3 KH: 2 K: 6 Ca: 6.5 Mg: 4.1 Mn 0.00116 I would Recommend using Caso4/Cacl, MgSo4 and K2so4/KhCo3 with following ratio: Ca 10 Mg 3 K 1 Mn 0.02236 Zn 0.00467 (if ZnSO4*7H2O was used) Zn 0.00737 (if Zinc Sulfate Monohydrate 35.5% was used) B...

How did you make the recipe? Which chemicals, grams etc. Used? Just wanted to double check everything.

Far as the coloration goes, the micros seems to be working. Can you post more pictures of the other plants, including full tank shot? Curled leave can relate to several different things. But usually related to Ca, Mg, K ratios.

@hasan66 @Mike Singh Is Magnesium Nitrate available in your countries ? if you guys still want to use the NH4, NO3, Urea combo, you could try something like this below: 500 ml, 20 ml per 50 gallon (190 liter) 3.57 gram NH4Cl N 0.2 Cl 0.5 2.71 gram KH2PO4 PO4 0.4 P 0.13 K...

I want to confirm if this is exactly what you dose to benefit @Mike Singh as well For a 100 liter tank 8.15 g potassium nitrate 5.36 g urea 5.16 g ammonium chloride 0.931 g phosphate 5ml weekly in a 500ml water container. KNO3 NO3 0.5 N 0.113 K 0.315 Urea N 0.25 Kh2PO4 PO4...

@hasan66 which recipe? sorry I have lost track of things in the past few days.

they are ok for our purpose both are same thing, get either one. not needed if using KNO3 I use Mathematics Formula

@mow said you can use either one of the Micros, But I would go with the Tradecorp AZ and you can decide weather you want to keep the Micros and Macros separate in their own solution. I also Recommend using Distilled water for solutions. we can add Magnesium to your aquarium during water...

this will work fine as well. but you didn't answer the following: "ok lets start with your tank, how many gallon or liters is it going to be? then your solution size for Micro and Macros? 500 ml? then how many ml per dose? 10 ml, 20 ml?"

0.06 ppm EDTA Fe, 0.04 ppm DTPA Fe = 0.1 ppm Total Fe 0.05 ppm EDTA Fe, 0.05 ppm DTPA Fe = 0.1 ppm Total Fe 0.02 ppm EDTA Fe, 0.04 ppm DTPA Fe, 0.04 Fe Gluconate = 0.1 ppm Total Fe 0.06 ppm HEEDTA Fe, 0.04 ppm DTPA Fe = 0.1 ppm Total Fe I believe this is what you meant? the total ppm of Fe...

"PPM or Parts Per Million is a unit used to describe very small concentrations of a substance in a larger solution" EDTA and DTPA are not the same, they both use different way of Chelation and DTPA is more stable overall, EDTA uses Ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid while DTPA uses Pentetic acid...

I believe we may be having a language barrier, possibly due to translation if that is what you are using. ok lets start with your tank, how many gallon or liters is it going to be? then your solution size for Micro and Macros? 500 ml? then how many ml per dose? 10 ml, 20 ml?

TDS has nothing to do with this, even though higher TDS generally mean higher GH/KH etc. but the primary issues are related to PH/KH when we refer on using chelation. there is no issue mixing a different chelation of Iron together. I believe you are not fully understanding how this whole...

Vinegar doesn't fully preserve the solution, while it may kill or prevent some of the mold/bacteria. Potassium Sorbate will preserve the solution to much high degree. Vinegar primarily lower the PH and acidify the solution. for most Micros, chelation isn't necessary. Fe and Mn may require the...

if you are using the above then the Micros/Fe and Macro solution are kept separately, I only added Potassium Sorbate. White Vinegar is fine to add along with potassium Sorbate. most of the time I no longer use Ascorbic Acid for my projects.

These are my standard. I target N as Proxy for my Macro dose, so it could be anywhere from 1-3 ppm N weekly. However, I never feel the need to exceed the Micro dose of 0.1 ppm Fe weekly as Proxy, regardless of weather I dose 1 or 3 ppm N. RO water Mineralized to: CaSo4: Ca 10 S 8.0006...

@hasan66 you may also find this link useful. similar numbers were used by @plantnoobdude

if you haven't noticed one of the Micro (right pic) was Tropica based clone. plant somehow reacted differently compared to the pic on the left where Micros were much lower. they both had some issues with what appear to be Fe deficiency, but this issue could have been related to many other...

these are taken from my experimental setups. what is your question? what you are seeing is plant reacting to different sets of ratios.

as always, I find this information to be misleading and Inaccurate. if this was the case, I have hydroponic solution at my disposal which is several times concentrated than the EI and it should also take care of that imbalances or interaction issues listed above.

I believe you are dosing the following? great job on your thread, I always appreciate people who like to do experiments. I would try to increase the Mn from 0.05 to 0.1 ppm and you can also increase the Cu a little if you like. Fe-DTPA: 0.2 ppm Fe Borax: 0.03 ppm B Zinc sulfate: 0.02 ppm Zn...

Probably not that close but here is a decent Knock off: 500 ml solution, 20 ml per 50 gallons 7.268 gram Solufeed Coir TEC (not available in the USA, But available in the UK) 18.12 grams NH4NO3 (easy to find in the USA, but not in the UK) 2.102 grams KH2PO4 9.174 grams K2SO4 19.194 grams...

Hi Wookii, sorry about the late reply, got busy with the kids. you can certainly use this recipe for the low tech tank if that is what you are asking. I just picked up the Coir TEC for this project as I believe it may be better overall Trace/Fe and we can add the N, P, K, Mg etc. to it as we...

Yes, the water usually had 0-1 dkh and 2-3 dgh, I often change the dgh to see the response from the plants, but dkh is always kept close to 0. Fe will be influenced if the dkh were to be high and may require changes. but, K can be kept within the same range.

No Sir, I cannot find this anywhere in the USA. But I can always send you my own Micro Mix that can last you for very long time.

Just for the record, this was one of his tanks before 🦕 made their way into it and ate all the plants.

no water changes and clean tank is possible. I will save it for some other time to discuss about it. I actually have a tank with no co2 and freezing water. My son uses it for underwater Dinosaur world.

Solufeed Coir TEC contain DTPA Fe, which itself is highly protected from the Phosphate interference. we further add some vinegar to acidify the solution to lower the PH which keep things more soluble and protected.

Next thing to try is no water changes at all, only top off the evaporated water.

1-3 ppm K weekly and 0.02 - 0.1 ppm Fe weekly. the point is that low tech tanks would have far less of an uptake and the needed nutrients.

usually only topping off the evaporated water, in low tech tank this may vary. but 25% water change every 2 week should be good, which is about 50% water change every month. you maybe get away with less than that.

am a lousy experimental guy with two kids to take care of. but whenever I get a chance, I try to do my experiments. any guesses on how much Fe, K am I dosing in these tanks? and these are high light, CO2 enriched tank with Inert Silica Sand. Pic #1 Pic #2 Pic #3 Pic #4 Pic#5

After some debate on this thread, it encouraged me to post some decent recipe that can be useful for the low-tech folks. Below are two recipes that I can consider to be a good starting point with very little maintenance. Can be dosed once a week or split the doses into 3-4x a week, Target 1 ppm...

If I were to recommend something to Low Tech folks, it would look something like this: 500 ml solution, 20 ml per 50 gallon (with decent fish load) 10.54 grams K2SO4 19.2 grams MgSO4.7H2O 3.634 gram Solufeed Coir TEC 0.25 gram potassium sorbate Fe 0.05 (chelated by DTPA Fe) Mn...

I highly Respect Mr. Barr and whatever he has done for the hobby. During his Era and whenever his method was born, it was designed to keep things simple without the need for testing, worrying about the nutrients etc. it was solely or primarily focused on dosing excessive and plant will use...

If whatever Kyle said is true, then we still don't need to use seachem equilibrium and sodium bicarbonate to boost GH and KH. You still have a better option which is Cacl, CaSO4 and MgSO4 for GH and KHCO3 for KH, but again this will also raise the K to significant number. Sodium isn't essential...

@Jamsim It's best to use combination of CaSO4, CaCl and MgSO4. while CaCl is highly soluble compared to CaSO4, it also adds excess amount of Cl. If I were to pick Cl vs SO4, I would rather have SO4 in little excess. But everyone have their opinions. Am not a EI user but your Potassium is...

@_Maq_ what are the NO3 levels on all the tanks? I apologize if I have missed this information somewhere.

But, what ppm were the daily/weekly target for each of these DTPA, EDDHA & Seachem Iron, Mn ? was Mn chelated? if you can already provide RO water to your setup, I would suggest going 100% RO and Mineralize it with needed Minerals and Nutrients.

Quick question for you. Does water look clear whenever the lights turn on after being off for several hours? Does water get cloudy only during when the lights are on for several hours and again becomes clear after lights are off for several hours again? Are you adding any acetic acid?

What are the source of fertilizer that are being added? What are the exact water parameters other than the listed 4 dgh?

Test the tank water daily to see if tds continues to rise. Any reason you decided to add eco complete on top of aqua soil?

Aqua soil and Eco complete combination isn't a very good choice to begin with. Are you seeing rapid increase in TDS? There was a problem with Eco complete where it would raise the TDS and many users couldn't bring the TDS down, it was almost like adding dolomite. I had similar issues as you...

My only main concern is that root tabs will end up leaching into the water Colum within the first week or so. not sure if you are already seeing the increase in TDS and other nutrients in the water? Aqua soil will be doing something similar especially in the early stage. you can expect the...

You can certainly use ammonium nitrate with livestock, this depends on PH and the acidity of the water.

mostly common in those tanks where they lack Ammonium or Ammonium based soil, especially when the main source of Nitrogen is NO3.

am not gonna lie but NH4NO3 is one of the best Nitrogen you could use for aquatic plant, even the NH4Cl or (NH4)2SO4 cannot replace it. But, Urea isn't too far behind and I would use Urea as my source of Nitrogen when NH4NO3 isn't available. it is also very safe compare to directly adding the...

I believe there are endless topics on this same question which are already covered here on this forum. @_Maq_ can probably send you in the right direction. I would use KHCO3, this is same as using ADA Brighty K, Easy to find and replicate. The KH coming from KHCO3 will be neturilized by ADA soil.

Missed that side of the picture. But yes, 1 mg/l = 1 ppm is correct.