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  1. plantnoob

    co2 in a low light tank

    im considering having another try with co2 , not 100% decided . its mainly going to be decided be wether or not i can find a cheap local supplier / refiller of bottles . ive also got a lot of questions that will affect the decision. 1) what sort of benefits could i expect if implemented...
  2. plantnoob

    any suggestions?

    i love the look of a nice big jungle of valis in the background of a tank , but as i use liquid carbon , that rules it out as a choice for my tank . is there anything easy that will give the same look that doesnt turn to mush with liquid carbon ?
  3. plantnoob

    expectations / actions correct?

    some tank specs 1st . fluval roma 240 so 4ft 240L , lighting standard roma 2x40w t8 , soil substrate capped with sand . no pressurised co2 . planted the tank saturday and as expected leaves are starting to suffer . this i put down to the plants having to adapt from emeresed growth to submersed...
  4. plantnoob

    plants ordered for my 2nd attempt

    after a miserably failed high tech last year i packed it all in in utter dismay and disillusionment .picked up a 2nd hand roma 240 so decided to take the bull by the horns and have another go, but this time low light , no co2 , easier plants and liquid carbon with soil substrate. saturday ive...
  5. plantnoob

    trace only?

    my tank is low light no pressurised co2 and il be using neutro co2 liquid carbon from aqua essentials. im also planning on using 1 of their 2 neutro brand liquid ferts . these are neutro t which is marketed for tanks using neutro co2 but not pressurised , and neutro + for tanks running co2 . now...
  6. plantnoob

    So i soiled myself

    Well yesterday i got a bee in my bonnet and thought sod waiting for ebay , went to b and q and got a bag of verve aquatic compost . Drained the tank down took out the sand , in with the soil and capped with about 2 cm of sand . Timer plug for lights is here too. Hoping to be able to order plants...
  7. plantnoob

    moss and anubias

    when growing both moss and anubias on 1 large piece of wood , do you need to make sure the moss doesnt spread over the roots / rhizome of the aubias ?
  8. plantnoob

    A few soil tank questions

    Right so having slept on it ive decided that im going to just go gor it and do a soil substrate tank . The playsand will be coming out , soil going in and a little bit of the sand back in as a cap. with the slower growth in low techs i was going to use liquid carbon to boost growth . But does...
  9. plantnoob

    are these choices ok?

    after a badly failed high tech i shyed away from all things planted , but having just picked up a used roma 240 ive decided to have another crack but not high tech . low light using the romas standard lighting of 2x40w t8 , neutro co2 and neutro+ along with APF substrate capsules
  10. plantnoob

    is there such a thing?

    as a cheap aquatic compost that doesnt need mineralising and doesn leech ammonia in the early stages of use ? something i can cap with playsand . i was looking at using just playsand and root tabs , but worry that it will compact too much at the required depth.
  11. plantnoob

    how is this for plant choice ?

    looking on aqua essentials for some plants to go in the impending soil substrate tanks . so far ive come up with these . cardamine lyrata , rotala rotundifolia , echinodorus bleheri , anubias ( nana , petite and afzellii) , crypts ( petchi , willissii and bullosa ) , java moss , aponogeton...
  12. plantnoob

    lighting advice needed

    with my co2 gear as good as sold , i will be converting to a soil substrate tank very soon . im not sure the best way to go with regards to lighting though . the current light unit i have got will allow me to either have 1x24w t5 or 2x24w t5 . problem i can see with that are that with 1 tube...
  13. plantnoob

    urgent help needed , forced switch to low tech

    been fighting co2 for ages now , and had been considering going low tech anyway . algae infestations etc doing my head in . whilst just fiddling with my reactor i managed to break it . so that was the last straw . co2 is disconnected , fish are in a temporary home , tank is being drained , algae...
  14. plantnoob

    algae back with a vengance

    i though i had my algae problems behind me , nut no ive got more than ever . hair algae is back at substrate level , an unknown algae on the hygrophila , ive got either greeen dust or green spot on the front glass , and i found staghorn on 1 of the leaves of my anubias . there is even a bit of...
  15. plantnoob

    columbian red finned tetra

    bit of a random post , just to say i added 8 of these to my tank a week ago and they have fast become my faves . if you want a medium/large tetra that looks great in a planted tank , give these beauties a look :)
  16. plantnoob

    what bacopa is this ?

    i bought this as caroliniana , although looking at pictures online im not so sure . looks more like this lanigera to me . http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/forumapc/plantfinder/details.php?id=274
  17. plantnoob

    why am i using so much?

    over the last couple of weeks ive been increasing my co2 until i got it to the point where i was winning the hair algae / plant melt battle. it looks like ive got there now , as algae is all but gone and plants are doing much better . part of me is thinking just be happy that algae is beaten ...
  18. plantnoob

    today was not a good day!

    woke up this morning , looked at the tank and thought something doesnt look right . so i switched the lights on to find that the 1200lph powerhead i use to power my co2 reactor had slid down the glass , ripping the hose off , and was sat in the bottom of the tank blasting aquasoil and plants...
  19. plantnoob

    what to do next?

    it looks like im starting to win my ongoing battle with co2 . hair algae is alomost gone , no new algae and now im getting plants pearling away a couple of hours after lights on . ive wanted to get more plants in for a while , but resisted until i beat co2 and stopped melting/killing plants . at...
  20. plantnoob

    liquid carbon based tanks

    giving serious consideration to selling on my reg etc and going to a liquid carbon based tank . what im trying to find is a good comprehensive list of plants for such a setup ( not sure wether its classed low tech or "mid tech" . anybody got any good links please ?
  21. plantnoob

    is this hairnet too coarse for riccia?

    asked the missus to get me a hairnet for my upcoming riccia carpet whilst she was in town today . she came back with this . are the holes too big ? IMG_0168 by mark pettican, on Flickr
  22. plantnoob

    max head height

    i see this a lot as im looking at pumps at the moment . am i understanding it right , that it is the max height the pump can return water ? ie a pump with max head height of 2 metres must sit no more than 2 metres below the tank?
  23. plantnoob

    just grabbed a reet bargain :)

    7 x 4 inch tub of riccia fluitans (aquatic plant) | eBay its carpeting time ;)
  24. plantnoob

    what would the effect be ?

    i plumbed up my powerhead/reactor/ full length spraybar setup today . the pipe i ordered for the spraybar hasnt been delivered yet , so i went and got a bit of pipe from a plumbers merchant . the pipe i ordered is 12mm outside diameter , and the pipe i bought and used today is 12mm inside...
  25. plantnoob

    "a little maintainence"

    got the pipe for my full length spraybar today , so decided to take the up atomiser off and get the new reactor setup plumbed in . that was 8 hours ago , and ive just sat down :crazy: being heavy handed and snapping the bit off the reactor that takes the co2 hosing didnt exactly help...
  26. plantnoob

    riccia carpet , am i mad ?

    evr since seeing t step by step guide , ive really wanted to try out a riccia carpet . just love the way they look .well i couldnt resist it after seeing such a good deal on ebay . looking more likely that im going to win the big old tub of riccia im bidding on at the moment . its a 7 inch by 4...
  27. plantnoob

    pearling or something else?

    ive always known pearling to be when the leaves of plants have little oxygen bubbles all over them , but is it the same thing when plants realease big streams of bubbles ? my anubias nana does have what i know as "normal" pearling on a few leaves , but the newly forming leaf is literally going...
  28. plantnoob

    anubias . how do you fix yours ?

    just curious , do you folks tie or wedge yours ? i ask because i found that where i wanted my anubias nana , there was a convenient nook to wedge the rhizome in . im assuming that it will take root in the wood just fine like this still ?
  29. plantnoob

    working out hole spacing

    im making a new system dedicated purely to providing water circulation and co2 to my tank . im going to be using a 1200lph powerhead plumbed into a tmc aquagro 1500 co2 reactor ( external) , and back into the tank via a full length spraybar ( 12mm acrylic tube) . length of spraybar will be 80cm...
  30. plantnoob

    baffled and in need of help

    got 2 problem areas in my tank . the hairgrass in the front , whilst growing well is collecting hair algae , and the hygro corymbosa stricta rear left has started to disintigrate/melt away in the last couple of days. im leaning towards co2/flow being the problem but im seeing fantastic growth in...
  31. plantnoob

    thoughts on this idea for a co2 system?

    need to optimize flow / distribution in my 125L tank . i was thinking along the lines of 1000 lph powerhead connected via filter hose or similar to a co2 reactor , back up into the tank and out via a full length spraybar
  32. plantnoob

    where to buy 1-2 grow and in vitro plants

    any other good sites for 1-2 grow / in vitro plants ? i know AE carry some , and ive forund a couple of sellers on ebay .
  33. plantnoob

    gotta love it when you get service like this

    my bromo blue sollution has gone off in the bottle after a couple of months . looking on AE where i ordered it from it said depending on storage methods it should be good for up to 2 years . so in the ask a question bit i asked what was the best way to store it as mine had gone green quickly ...
  34. plantnoob

    is this hair algae?

    getting this down at substrate level mainly . predominantly on the hairgrass.from searching around the web , i think it may be hair algae , but im not sure . 125L tank 2x24w t5 on for 6.5 hours . co2 at 4bps ( turned it up a few days ago thinking it was probably the root of the issue) . combined...
  35. plantnoob

    making changes to co2

    been having a few minor problems , which i am pretty sure are co2 related , so i have made a few changes to my setup. obviously im not going to see any immediate difference . how long on average should it be before i see if ive cured the problem ( or even made things worse ) ?
  36. plantnoob

    need some help with my general setup

    the problem getting good even flow/distribution . starting to get hair algae creeping back in . blyxa seems to be suffering/melting . im trying different configurations and i seem to be ending up with plants blasted all over the place some areas , little to no movement in others . or fairly...
  37. plantnoob

    thank you ukaps members

    yep thats right its 1 of those sycophantic " you lot are so great " posts :) seriously though , i just wanted to thank you all for the great advice and help i have received with setting up my 1st planted tank . much appreciated folks .
  38. plantnoob

    tying moss

    if i wanted a branch of redmoor to be completely covered 360 degrees in moss do i need to tie it to the underside as well or just the top ?
  39. plantnoob

    Nomaphila stricta

    thinking about getting a pot or 2 of this , but cant really find much info in terms of requirements / growth rate etc . anybody got experience with it ?
  40. plantnoob

    fine brown dust on plant leaves

    im getting this annoying fine brown dust on my leaves . looks like its coming from the aquasoil as its the same colour . ive got a combined flow/turnover of 2190LPH . plenty of movement in the plants , yet i clean it off and a few hours later its back . oddly , the ozelot at the rear right...
  41. plantnoob

    having problems with L. aquatica

    having issues with rangy growth in my limnophila aquatica . once i had some new,finer submerged growth , i trimmed them just below this and disgarded the old emersed bottoms and re-planted the lush new tips . now they have grown quite a bit , but only the top inch to inch and a half is the...
  42. plantnoob

    aeriel roots

    i think thats what they are called , the roots that sprout from the stems of stem plants . can you/should you trim them off , or is it best to hide them with other plants ?
  43. plantnoob

    working out your ppm

    im using the ei starter kit from APF . i mix my bottles up slightly stronger than the guidelines ( 1tsp more of each powder) . i was curious about what sort of ppm im getting in the tank . is there a formula to work out the ppm of each powder in the 500ml dosing bottle , and from that a way...
  44. plantnoob

    right move or schoolboy error ?

    came home from work this evening , and figured i needed to do some maintainence on the tank , ie some trimming . the Gymnocoronis spilanthoides was near the surface , but very skinny looking . not unhealthy , but needs to bush out ( all the leaves/growth nerer the tops ) . with this i removed...
  45. plantnoob

    the truth about red plants

    do red plants such as , say Alternanthera rosaefolia for example ,really require strong light to show the lovely red colours , or is it just a case of requiring good levels of a specific nutrient ?
  46. plantnoob

    Melanotaenia praecox

    anybody keep these in their planted tank ? im thinking they could make a nice change from tetras/rasboras
  47. plantnoob

    question about limnophila aquatica

    the whole reason i chose limnophila aquatica is because of the lovely furry/feathery appearance like in this photo Plant Details mine however looks like this transition , or problem ? | UK Aquatic Plant Society im refering to the general form , rather than the highlighted areas in the photo...
  48. plantnoob

    transition , or problem ?

    came home from work today , and noticed some of the tips of my L. aquatica seem to be suffering ,im thinking maybe transition , as it was only planted 2 days ago . 125L tank 2x24w t5 , eheim 2213 , 1400lph and 400 lph powerheads , ei dosing , drop checkers both nice and lime green ( 4dkh bromo...
  49. plantnoob

    when its time to lengthen photoperiod

    at the moment with the tank being freshly planted , im running lights for 6 hours . this will increase to 8 hours . when and how is it best to do this ? should i let the plants grow in then gradually increase it over a few weeks ?
  50. plantnoob

    pearling already?

    my ludwigia repens "ruben" has been in the tank all of 5 hours and already there are bubbles coming from some of the leaves . could it really be pearling so soon , or is there another explenation ?
  51. plantnoob

    so far 1 massive dissapointment . happier now

    plants arrived today , the polysperma wasnt great , the leaves looked a bit battered , the corymbosa was almost non existant , virtually nothing in the pot , 3 tiny little stems . the ozelot , well i cant comment on that because it was missing . didnt even effin get it :twisted: they are...
  52. plantnoob

    something i just realised i need to ask

    with my plants coming on thursday , i will be planting when i get home from work , around 4pm ish . my intended photo period will have lights start at 2pm . should i be plugging the lights and co2 into the timers tomorrow night so all is running when its planted ( i will be draining tank to...
  53. plantnoob

    easiest planted setup for rio 125?

    im trying to get some advice for my missus' friend who wants a planted tank . she got the tank 2nd hand with some plants already in it , along with a serious algae infestation . i did ask in the algae section and got some advice to help her bring it around , but she has said she wants to start...
  54. plantnoob

    EI , do you rest day ?

    im just curious if anybody uses a rest day , and if so why ? im going to be using the EI starter kit from aquarium plant food , i have mixed it all up according to the accomanying literature and will start off using the regime/dosages suggested . it says monday micro , tuesday macro ...
  55. plantnoob

    friends tank , can these be saved?

    my missus' friend just bought a 2nd hand rio 125 . the plants all came with it and are seriously infested with algae .its standard rio 125 lighting , and juwel internal filter . i have no idea what , if any the dosing regime was ie liquid carbon or none etc . not sure what the plants are but to...
  56. plantnoob

    step by step aquascape videos

    ive just watched the ones on TGM's youtube chanel and loved them . both interesting and really informitive and helpful. anybody know of good sites with videos in a similar vein ?
  57. plantnoob

    hope im ready . been doing last minute checks

    got to admit im a little nervous waiting for my plants to arrive . the thought of melting £101 worth of plants is crushing ! been going over everything just to make sure all is tickity boo . gone through co2 connections checking for leaks , cleaned filter , tested timer plugs , tweaked powerhead...
  58. plantnoob

    finally ordered my plants!

    after several irritating delays i have finally ordered the plants for my 1st planted tank :) i ordered the following : 1 pot Hygrophila corymbosa 'Siamensis' 1 pot Hygrophila polysperma 1 pot Cryptocoryne beckettii 'petchii' 2 pots Ludwigia sp. 1 pot Lindernia rotundifolia 1 pot Limnophila...
  59. plantnoob

    i love purigen !

    ive had bitty water in my tank a bit messy from new aquasoil , so yesterday i put a bag of purigen in the filter and today its absolutely crystal clear . bloody fantastic stuff !!
  60. plantnoob

    just want to check something before i order

    so called "light demanding" plants can be grown with less light as the co2/flow/nutrients etc is more important , and they will just grow a bit slower in lower light . is that right ? i have a fluval roma 125 with 2x24w t5 . pressurised co2 and EI ferts , ada amazonia substrate i have just...
  61. plantnoob

    white slime on redmoor new photo , this is extreme !

    started to hardscape my tank a couple of days ago . i got a nice piece of redmoor off ebay , boiled it for a good hour , and put it in the tank . now the wood and some of the substrate has white fungus/algae on it , and there seems to be a small amount floating in the water column too . no...
  62. plantnoob

    random co2 mist question

    do you find co2 mist bothers the fish ? my tank looks like its full of 7up when i inject gas !
  63. plantnoob

    moss portion sizes

    would 10 gramms be considered a large sizewd portion of moss ?
  64. plantnoob

    really need help now . getting frustrated

    i just cant get my drop checkers green enough , no matter what i do . theres no way i can get my plantys until i can get enough effin co2 in the water :banghead: . this is after 2 and a quarter hours , still too blue to my eyes . 557965_10201030984959529_213461569_n by mark pettican, on...
  65. plantnoob

    pipe to make spraybar

    does anybody know where i can get black/dark grey plastic pipe and fittings to make a custoim spraybar from ? i need 10mm OD . ive looked on fishfurandfeather.com but the smallest they have is 16mm . everywhere else all i can find is flexible stuff or clear acrylic .
  66. plantnoob

    is this the colour im aiming for ?

    i know they should be in the tank lol but i havent put any light on the tank yet , i figure no plants = no rush for light bulbs :) . these were literally a few seconds out of the tank and photographed on my phone . green enough? drop checkers by mark pettican, on Flickr
  67. plantnoob

    trying to eradicate a dead spot

    tank is fluval roma 125 , filter is eheim 2213 extra turnover from newave 1.6 1400lph circulation pump . intake on the right , outlet on the left . 1st i tried spraybar on back wall which only reached maybe halfway along , and the pump the other end faced to the front . this way i had loads of...
  68. plantnoob

    regulator pressures ok?

    having never used 1 before id just like to see if the pressures im getting from my tmc v2 reg seem about normal . im getting 50 kg/cm2 ( 711psi using a converter app) cylinder pressure from the FE and working reg pressure of around 3.5 bar ( just over that ) . sound about right ?
  69. plantnoob

    whats this screw on the side of my reg?

    im about to fit my regulator ( tmc v2 pressure regulator pro) onto my fire extinguisher . i have just noticed that on the side of the reg is a little allen key screw . is thaty for adjusting the working pressure of the reg ? i cant find anything about it in the instructions . the part it labels...
  70. plantnoob

    coulkd this work?

    this weekend im setting up my co2 system and optimising flow etc . now because im feeding co2 in via the spraybar using an up inline atomiser , i have got the spraybar angled slightly downwards so as not to have all my co2 just dissapear at the waters surface . as a result of this , although...
  71. plantnoob

    calling experienced injectors

    having bought an in tank atomiser i have now come to decide i would rather have a system that doesnt fill my tank with loads of bubbles ( well as few as possible anyway) , great isnt it hindsight :) . so i am now thinking about either the up inline atomiser or the co2 supermarket mixer reactor...
  72. plantnoob

    a different aquasoil question

    not far off of planting now , and im all but decided that im going to go with aquasoil amazonia . 1 question though . although im about 2 weeks off of planting , id like to get it in the tank asap to get a headstart on waterchanging all the leeched ammonia and tannins out . will it be ok to do...
  73. plantnoob

    is it that simple?

    got all the bits for my co2 setup bar the fire extinguisher now , which il be ordering friday . is it a safe assumption that if i can get it so that whilst fiddling with flow, wherever i place my drop checkers in the tank i get the desired green colour , that ive got good even distibution of co2...
  74. plantnoob

    hardscape advice

    this 1 is really boggling me ! how to hardscape a triangle style aquascape ? i want some hardscape to be on show . i did have a picture in my head of branches of redmoor protruding out through the higher plants at 1 end out into the open swimming area , but really not sure if that would "work"...
  75. plantnoob

    which koralia ?

    my external filter ( eheim 2213 ) isnt going to give enough turnover/flow . im looking at hydor koralias . they do a 900lph version , and the next size up on AE is 1600lph . in a 125L im thinking the 1600 would be a bit much and the 900 would be the best choice . yay or nae ?
  76. plantnoob

    waterchanges in the planted tank

    with such emphasis being placed on the importance of consistant and stable co2 injection , i got to wondering what impact waterchanges have on things and when the best time is to do them . are they best done when the lights are off and the co2 isnt running ?
  77. plantnoob

    best startup practice?

    having been reading so much info lately , concentrating on the importance of getting flow/distribution/levels of co2 etc spot on from day 1 ( great co2 atricle by ceg on here ), i now have 1 last thing i need to get absolutely clear in my mind before planting. what is the best practice for...
  78. plantnoob

    aquasoil,ammonia and algae

    the more i read about ada aquasoil , the more tempted i am to use it . but the ammonia in the 1st few weeks concerns me a little . does the ammonia being leeched leave you more open to algae attacks in the early stages ? is it better to wait until it stops leeching before planting ?
  79. plantnoob

    minimun substrate depth for HC?

    ideally i want as little substrate visible at the bottom of the front glass on my tank as possible . there is a black band around the bottom , which i have just measured , and it is 20mm . whilst i dont expect that to be deep enough , i dont want to go any deeper than absolutely needed at the...
  80. plantnoob

    forgive me if this is a dumb question

    photoperiods. does it matter what time of day i set my lights to come on or does it have to be morning ? will plants be ok if it started at around 1pm? i really want to start it then as due to my strange and variable working hours ( swapping from days to nights etc ) if i had the lights come on...
  81. plantnoob

    my other hobby is photography .

    thought id post a few samples of what i like to get up to when i get the time :) been into photography for around 15 months on and off . 11 by mark pettican, on Flickr 8 by mark pettican, on Flickr 1 by mark pettican, on Flickr i also do a fair bit of macro work , mostly insects in...
  82. plantnoob

    mark's 1st planted tank . update

    initially this will be a bit of a slow burner , but once it gathers steam it will be a regularly updated warts and all journal of my 1st ever planted tank . every , success , faliure ,hurdle encountered and achievement will be shared , along with plenty of photos along the way . il try to keep...
  83. plantnoob

    Resolved! journals

    i was just wondering when is generally considered an apt time to start a journal on here ? ive been planning and learning for a while now and although at the moment its just a bare tank with nothing in terms of photos worth showing , i have drawn up a design , settled on specs , chosen plants...
  84. plantnoob

    whats your prefered diffusion method?

    ordered a co2 regulator today , along with an eheim 2213 to replace the internal i originally bought ( what was i thinking i know ! ) looking at fire extinguisher on ebay as well . now ive got an external on the way it opens up more options to me i figure . from having a bit of a search on here...
  85. plantnoob

    a couple of questions i havent touched on yet

    how long do you need to use the initial shorter photoperiod for ? are daily water changers really needed to start with ? do you start dosing right away or let plants settle 1st ? im sure il think of more questions on these little finer points as i do more research too :)
  86. plantnoob

    which makes the better carpeting plant?

    HC "cuba" or eliocharis sp "mini" ?
  87. plantnoob

    substrate choice

    there are so many available but what are the pros and cons of each ? no way im paying stupid money for aqua soil so ive narrowed it down to either colombo florabase , eco-complete, or seachem flourite . is either of these beter for planting in , longevity etc ?
  88. plantnoob

    aquascape plan "take 1" thoughts

    nowhere near ready to order plants yet ( probably 2 months time ) but best to make mistakes in ms paint than with the real thing i figure .i am going for a triangle scape . no experience with plant choice in terms of mixing them together , so i just went with some i liked the look of . any...
  89. plantnoob

    easiest aquascape for a beginner ?

    i've been looking more and more at aquascaping over the last day or 2 , and to be honest i find this part an even more daunting prospect than i did growing healthy plants . now i will concede , that probably the most important consideration in your 1st planted tank is to get the basics of...
  90. plantnoob

    greenmachine

    i know on face value it seems that they are expensive , although i know their plants are reputed to be amongst the best available . but im wondering , is it really likely to work out that expensive ? it does look from the pictures that each pot contains quite a lot of plants , especially with...
  91. plantnoob

    aponogeten crispus

    once my tank is cycled and i plant it id really like this plat in a rear corner . the only trouble is its only a roma 125 , 80x35x50 cm could it work ? i actually like the idea of a few leaves trailing on the surface giving a slightly shady spot ( but not too much ) could overly big leaves be...
  92. plantnoob

    opinions on these ferts ?

    looks cheap and simple but does it look any good ? Essential Macros and Micros Nutrient Mix
  93. plantnoob

    cleaning dry algae from a used tank

    ive bought a 2nd hand tank which will need a good clean before use . lots of old gsa on the glass , which is no problem just a bit of elbow grease , but what about the old dried algae in the corners and siliconed joints ? whats the best way to totally eradicate this without damaging the joints...
  94. plantnoob

    best places for wood

    im sure i used to remember seeing lots of sites with a great selection of redmoor and sumatra driftwood , but now i cant seem to find much of a choice other than aquaessentials . any good sites worth a mention ?
  95. plantnoob

    lighting for roma 125

    what would be the best lighting to use for a fluval roma 125 running pressurised co2 ? im reasonably easy as far as plant choice gos , nut the 1 plant im adamant i want is a nice carpet of Hemianthus callitrichoides.
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