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3rd Time Lucky 45p

Too much co2 then.Your wood has white fungus that the shrimps will like.If ure afraid of killing them 5-10.If not 20 would be good.Looks like the beginnings of hair or thread algae. ;)
I will knock co2 down a tat when next off in 4 days then look at getting some shrimp in. Should the ottos and shrimp clean that algae up you think ?

Thanks for the help mate
Dean

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I will knock co2 down a tat when next off in 4 days then look at getting some shrimp in. Should the ottos and shrimp clean that algae up you think ?

Thanks for the help mate
Dean

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Yep its green algae or manual removal.Yep ure welcome. ;)
 
Already wanting to rescape bit holding off until have fish and plants grown etc.

Getting green hair algae more now so hoping when shrimp and ottos in will help.

Tomorro going to do large clean and clean prefilter and lily pipes, do you clean pre filter sponges in sink under tap water ?

The rear plants still looking light even after adding squirt of tropica ever other day any idea how to get my iron levels up ?

Also any recomendations on how to keep moss tight onto the wood ? Keep finding bits all over tank

Thanks dean
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Added 2 beautiful ottos i went to dobbies and another 2 shops that i remember however none had any fish as 2 were shut and dobbies dont have aquariums anymore so ended up at pets at home just minutes away after driving round for hour and a half, i should have checked.

I will be asking if anyone has any shimp for sale next week i think.

Thanks and any questions above can be answered that would be great.

Dean
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Unfortunately one of my.ottos died by getting sucked into the inlet and i didnt see untik tonight as was out today, so one left i might go and het 6 ammano shrimp tomorro but bit gutted.

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He probably died before he got there I’m afraid.

Ottos are super fragile, whilst they do a good job at start up, it’s not really suited to them. A bunch of amanos and cherry shrimp will be good. (Beware amanos will jump in a newly established tank!)
 
He probably died before he got there I’m afraid.

Ottos are super fragile, whilst they do a good job at start up, it’s not really suited to them. A bunch of amanos and cherry shrimp will be good. (Beware amanos will jump in a newly established tank!)
Weirdly enough one of the ottos seemed very weird by swimming around wildly and fast and seemed very wild. I still might tey to get 6 amanos tomorrow and hope they survive.

Thanks dean

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Weirdly enough one of the ottos seemed very weird by swimming around wildly and fast and seemed very wild. I still might tey to get 6 amanos tomorrow and hope they survive.

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Otocinclus should be kept in groups so I would advice you to get some more of them.
 
He probably died before he got there I’m afraid.

Ottos are super fragile, whilst they do a good job at start up, it’s not really suited to them. A bunch of amanos and cherry shrimp will be good. (Beware amanos will jump in a newly established tank!)

Ottos Can be super stupid too, recently found one (dead) stuck in the pals of my eheim compact 300...

But yeah, very sensitive when acclimating, once they'll pass the first month in the tank, they are generally super Hardy
 
Ottos Can be super stupid too, recently found one (dead) stuck in the pals of my eheim compact 300...

But yeah, very sensitive when acclimating, once they'll pass the first month in the tank, they are generally super Hardy
Thanks for that, i have got him a friend today and seems a lot calmer and not franticly swimming around the tank and also added 4 shrimp it says on receipt yamoto shrimp however i asked for amano is there much difference ?

Hopefully i get no jumpers, i am debating putting cling film over top with holes in until they settled, going to get some cherries or something next week maybe before any fish.

My flow seems very high even though i added some extra media since i cleaned the prefilter, i am haping no only need to clean the internal of filter ever 3-4 month you think thats sounds ok ? But is there anyway to turn down the flow at all on the oase line ?

Thanks dean

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Quick update, some pichures before water change and during. The algae is still present its green and long strands you can see the bubbles very thin i siphoned it out best i can. I will keep dosing liquid carbon at the recommended dose and 1 squirt of tropica specialised
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So picked up some stunning cherry shrimp from nick aka niton off this forum and they seem to be doing very well except a couple of tiny ones got sucked into the inlet first night but since ordered and inlet guard from ebay also have a amano jump that night .

Can i ask a question about stocking how many amanos you recomend as still quite a lot of green algae as you can see on the moss also lost another otto seem him inbetween rocks and noticed he was still there the next day so currently have 1 ottos and 3 amano and around 6 cherries.

I plan on going to get another otto and maybe 4 amano shimp before i get a shoul of fish. Does that sound ok and any help /recomendations on the green algae and light coloured leaves i am dosing tropica daily.

Help appreciated

Thanks dean
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Very nice growth congrats !

For an 45P like yours, I would put 6 amano and 4 otos (they love to be in small groups). ;)
 
Very nice growth congrats !

For an 45P like yours, I would put 6 amano and 4 otos (they love to be in small groups). ;)

I struggle to see growth my carpet is very thick but think plants at rear taking a while to grow but soppose dont want to fast growing.

Would i still be able to have a shoul of 10 or so green tetras or neon tetras ,? Still unsure of what fish i want, i may go and get some more shrimp or ottos tomorro.

Any idea on pale leaves or green algae or you think once shimp in should clean it up

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Try to physically remove as much of the green “stringy” algae as possible - try to “catch” the strings in a toothbrush or similar, use a narrow syphon hose (syphon to bucket so you can return any accidental shrimp to tank), gently brush through the hairgrass with a “pick” comb

If it’s in the moss, just trim the moss back to the wood etc (I think you mentioned moss pieces breaking free?) - if you cut off any significant lumps of moss, you can comb through to remove any algae, then sparingly glue/tie to wood etc

Jurij mit JS has a couple videos demonstrating moss glue techniques
For tying moss, ADA-japan has some video (there’s an excellent video for moss tying, followed by trimming of the moss tightly to the wood, somewhere, I’ve just never bookmarked it :oops: :sorry:)

Re your Otocinclus, find an alternate source - these fish are obviously unwell (sick to death :()

Shrimp that inadvertently end up in the filter, generally manage just fine as long as the filter is running (good oxygen levels), just remember to check for them when you clean the filter

With more than a couple Oto’s in a 45P, you’ll need to supplement food
I just use snails in smaller tanks, while the larger Nerites are terrific (horrific) egg layers - and those little white egg “shells” are well and truly glued in place :eek: - I’ve yet to see any egg debris from my Clithon corona snails (after 1-2 years)
I’ve also some “Batic” nerites that seem unlikely egg producers (they are a smaller Nerite and I’ve seen nothing of note after several months)

I no longer add Amano type shrimp as they can be relatively aggressive, quickly develop a strong preference for fish food, and grow relatively large ...
 
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This shrimp is well worth finding as it will consume most algaes, including young BBA
Despite appearing on farm lists as Caridina gracilirostris, it’s unlikely, it also tends to ship in as a fairly mixed group of shrimp
(not the website I was looking for, but has good photos of the shrimp I’m referring to)

https://www.aquagreen.com.au/plant_data/Caridina_sp_Gulf1.html

Most wild type “tiger” shrimp are also very industrious (though much less commonly available in recent years)
 
Try to physically remove as much of the green “stringy” algae as possible - try to “catch” the strings in a toothbrush or similar, use a narrow syphon hose (syphon to bucket so you can return any accidental shrimp to tank), gently brush through the hairgrass with a “pick” comb

If it’s in the moss, just trim the moss back to the wood etc (I think you mentioned moss pieces breaking free?) - if you cut off any significant lumps of moss, you can comb through to remove any algae, then sparingly glue/tie to wood etc

Jurij mit JS has a couple videos demonstrating moss glue techniques
For tying moss, ADA-japan has some video (there’s an excellent video for moss tying, followed by trimming of the moss tightly to the wood, somewhere, I’ve just never bookmarked it :oops: :sorry:)

Re your Otocinclus, find an alternate source - these fish are obviously unwell (sick to death :()

Shrimp that inadvertently end up in the filter, generally manage just fine as long as the filter is running (good oxygen levels), just remember to check for them when you clean the filter

With more than a couple Oto’s in a 45P, you’ll need to supplement food
I just use snails in smaller tanks, while the larger Nerites are terrific (horrific) egg layers - and those little white egg “shells” are well and truly glued in place :eek: - I’ve yet to see any egg debris from my Clithon corona snails (after 1-2 years)
I’ve also some “Batic” nerites that seem unlikely egg producers (they are a smaller Nerite and I’ve seen nothing of note after several months)

I no longer add Amano type shrimp as they can be relatively aggressive, quickly develop a strong preference for fish food, and grow relatively large ...
Thanks for that alto, i have done exactly that siphoned the algae off the moss and used fingers to removed as much as possible from hair grass.

Wonder what happened to the ottos also thats what puts me off nitrite snails the eggs but may look at what you have said. Pets at home is easiest place for me currently and theh often have a few types but not sure what ones exactly without going to look but i would surely want one that didnt lay eggs.

I will be getting some fish after christmas not sure weather to go for neons or something else i will have a look around.

Any idea in the light colours plants maybe too much light ? Also its hard to see growth as been around a month now and the carpet looks great you think rest of growth ok ? Soppose wouldn't want to much growth as be consistently trimming.

I may not feed anymore for then the shrimp will hopefully eat the algae been putting pinch of food in lately for ottos but they dont move from the glass.

Thanks dean

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Hi Dean, tank looks great.
I’d maybe try adding more fertilisers and checking the co2 level out to help with the algae and deficiencies.
Did you ever sort the drop checker issue? A way of seeing if all is working as it should is to remove the drop checker from the aquarium for a few hours, the solution should return to blue. If it does not there is something a miss and this needs addressing. If the solution is good then you should be getting a more significant colour change towards lime green for lights on. This is essential if your light is running at 100% intensity. You need to ensure co2 and fertilisers are on point if your lighting is at maximum. You could try utilising the dimmer again to offer a bit more wiggle room. You need to ensure both the start and end points of the timer are 0% otherwise the light will always be ramping up or down from the last input.
The substrate and carpet plants may be utilising the fertilisers better so adding more may help with the pale plants and slow growth on the rest. Are you using both specialised and premium ferts?
Cheerio
Ady.
 
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