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The Falls - DOOA Wall 60

Hi, I’m in the fortunate position to have a lot of spare moss from my big tank, particularly weeping moss but also some Christmas, Fissidens and some plain old Java.

I did think about the blender method, I have used it on some of the wood that’s going in. It does give a very nice natural look. Reading some terrarium blogs it seems mosses spread pretty readily by spore when growing in humid conditions, so hopefully this will get everything looking green!

Also I’m not sure if the water flowing over the pads would just wash off moss that’s too chopped up?


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Need to keep trimming this stuff or it just falls off. Growing like crazy


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Hi all
Just for argument's sake I'd thought maybe you could 'seed' the sponge then have it lying flat in a tray of water under a light until it grows in and firmly attaches, then shift it into place.
I'm pretty sure it will spread fairly quickly whatever you do, but I think @Kezzab's idea is the best way to get a quick cover and good attachment.

cheers Darrel
 
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I did try something along those lines a few months ago. It didn’t really take off so I just put the propagator in the garden. Despite winter temperatures there does look to have been some small amount of growth. Think the humidity wasn’t right inside. Moss is amazingly bulletproof.


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This is giving me all sorts of ideas about a plant impregnated HM filter. I wonder though how long it would last before the plants prevented flow through the sponge?
 
Hi all,
This is giving me all sorts of ideas about a plant impregnated HM filter. I wonder though how long it would last before the plants prevented flow through the sponge?
I've always planted the top and tank side of mine when I've used them. They probably clog a but quicker with plants but you can rinse them out plants and all.

Here is one planted with Windelov Java Fern. (from <"https://www.aquariumforum.de/threads/113255-erfahrungsbericht-bepflanzte-rueckwand">)

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The corner filters (eck matten filters) are my preference, but it doesn't make any difference in use.

Moss works quite well, but it ends up very mulmy. They naturally end up moss covered, because any loose bits of moss are drawn onto the sponge and start growing.

The <"Seriously Fish HMF article"> is quite good.

cheers Darrel
 
Interesting, the project I had envisaged was to have a sponge separating a void for the heater and small pump then planting the sponge. Draw the water up using a small pump connected to a spray bar which then sprayed down the face of the sponge watering the plants and returning back into the tank for re-circulation which is only kept 3/4full. Two worries would be sponge getting top heavy with the plants grown on the top section and wanting to slump and the sponge getting clogged up with plant roots too quickly. I might have a crack at this though, nothing to lose.
 
Using 5 cm thick coarse foam is quite sturdy, i would not be worried it growth closed or topple easily. especially if wedged in like in matten filters. You can always "tie"it to an structure like eggcrate to give it more strength.
 
You can always "tie"it to an structure like eggcrate to give it more strength.

Good thinking @Edvet I have some eggcrate. I can a feel a project coming on! Thinking cut the sponge to size, plant the sponge and grow out of water as in @TBRO suggestion then set it up as a HM filter. Probably best done when the weather improves and getting more light though. Sorry for stamping all over your post buddy but I'm following this with interest. Really loving these part submerged setups so will be interested which plants fair better out of water. Keep us updated :thumbup:
 
No problem! I thought of lots of ways of DIY ing this set up. The moss on the filter foam was a trial run.

I could totally envision the rear wall of a tank being one big sponge filter, planted with moss. No reason part of that filter moss couldn’t be above the water!

Will check on the garden moss this weekend. I bet it’s still going.


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Just saw this thread very good info. I will follow more closely with interest.

Although I enjoy much of what I see on James Wong's Instgram feed according to Carlos Magdelena he doubts the success of his lily bowl with little light. To me it's unclear as to wether his 'updates' are more 'throwbacks'. Perhaps he simply bought a lily that had already flowered. Anyway, I don't doubt his success with the betta aquarium, the shallow aquarium, light bulb wabi kusa, his window sill pots and planted coffee table. I just imagine it's quite easy as a public figure to gloss over little bits of information or claim some half truths.
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This post caught my attention. Most of his plants come from Aquarium Gardens (apart from some very specialist mini versions). They are exactly like anyone would purchase and are no different.

I think James would agree that he enjoys expimenting and if it didn’t work it wouldn’t make his Instagram page.
But there is no trickery in what he shows.

If you have an queries send him a personal message, he is very easy to talk to!
 
What's his insta account? There's a few James wongs on there when I search.

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What's his insta account? There's a few James wongs on there when I search.

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@botanygeek.

He is often on gardeners question time and occasionally country file. Had a book out and tv programme called grow your own drugs.
I tried, the magistrate didn’t think it was a good idea! :)
 
You should have just told the magistrate you were going to save them a job and incinerate the drugs, just slowly over a period of time, mainly at the weekend.

Yeah I know the geezer you mean now, I think I saw him on one of George's videos. I'll add him now.

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Finally found some time to set up the filter and get that all running.

Just needs the flow reducing a bit with the taps on the Ehime.

Once all the pads are in place it pretty silent.

Water looks a bit tinted due to it coming from my rain butt, which is full of tannin leaching wood. Purigen in filter so should get stripped out.

Going with rain water to reduce any water stains on the glass + I fancy keeping some soft water fish, maybe Rasbora axelrodi?

Will do more scape as time allows!

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Thanks for looking. T


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More messing around, adding some wood then using bits of moss to draw water over the wood. Working really well, hopefully get the blended moss on the wood going.

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Virtually silent, the pads stop any water trickle sound. Actually I could raise the water level and stop even that minor drip. The video has sound. T


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