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Journal The Mermaid’s Rockpool Garden

Wow I didn't know that about the sailfins, thanks for the heads up. Just googled it and found someone else say one ate their cleaner goby!

That might have been me if it's on r2r. I used to write alot on there before the mass exodus of enlightened people a few years ago. I haven't been on since tbh

Hopefully the tiny green clown goby gets bigger at the same rate so he isn't a delicious snack, although I think I heard they taste very bad.

I think the clown goby should be fine. They are so cryptic and have a noxious body coating, that very few things even look at them. They have been found in the wild to protect coral heads and there is interesting research which shows a symbiotic relationship where the coral secretes a kind of distress call that the fish reacts to.

Ah perfect, thank you for the ID. It's interesting and slightly worrying online how mixed all the experience is with starfish, I think there must be many species which look similar and only a few are appropriate.

Starfish are tricky because like cuc they may have already met their end before people even buy them. They are really delicate and need to be handled properly from collection-wholesaler-lfs-tank and the issue is if acclimation isn't right the whole way, or they suffer shipping stress, then they can be slowly dying before you add them to the tank. It can take months for starfish to die, mostly though starvation but also because their delicate hydrovascular system gets damaged. You also rightly make the point that we don't know what most species eat or simply can't provide enough food for them luckily linckia seems to be the more least difficult species so I hope you have it for years to come.
 
An amazing journal @shangman. Great images and a great read too. I know you've mentioned filtration, wavemakers, and lighting in a few places, but can you sum up all the equipment used, along with any additional equipment you think might make life easier for anyone (me for instance) thinking of following in your footsteps. Thanks
Thank you!! :) It's been such a pleasure to keep this tank, for me so far it really is the epitome of everything I love about aquariums. The jump from freshwater to saltwater is not nearly as painful as it looks! I 10000000% recommend trying it, a nano is easy and as there are so many lovely tiny creatures which would thrive in a simple tank.

The aquarium is 100cm l x 40cm d x 30cm h, approx 125L. You could easily apply this equipment to smaller tanks, in my 32L bowl nano I used only a single wavemaker + heater as in-tank eqiupment and it seemed to work well.
Filtration & heating: Oase Thermo Biomaster 600 (+ liverock) + Aquario Premium Neon Flow plastic pipes
Extra flow: 2 Aquarium Systems NewJet Wave Nano Wavemaker 900L/h
UV: TMC Vecton 400
Lights: 1 AI Prime 16HD Fresh, 2 AI Prime 16HD Reef
Glass lid is also required.

I use an Oase Thermo Biomaster 600 with minimal media (and I use the foams in the prefilter), which I got secondhand from someone here shutting down their tank 2 years ago, you can just use a freshwater filter which you already have (if you're like me and just have random old equipment still in case the inspiration strikes). With it I use aquario plastic pipes which are easy to clean, you can't use the metal pipes on a marine because of corrosion.

In a marine tank, the biggest aspect of filtration is the bacteria-filled porous live rock, so equipment-wise it's more about adding enough flow to get everything moving around the tank to catch mulm in the filter and to mimic the natural movement of the sea- you don't want a singular flow, you want something which goes in lots of directions, so I also have 2 wavemakers, at 1000lph each, one at the other end to the filter, and one at the back crossing across all the flows. My wavemakers cost about £20 each, so not too bad.

If possible, it's best to start with at least some live rock for your hardscape from the LFS, or second hand from someone shutting down their tank (people sell it very cheaply). It has two benefits - it's full of beneficial bacteria to cycle your tank almost instantly, and it also is full of a whole host of other microorganisms and often corals and other cool bits which seed the tank with life and provide the base stability like bristleworms which are like the ultimate detritus-eating cleanup crew. On a smaller tank, you can quite easily get away with just wavemakers if you have liverock. I think Courtney didn't start with liverock and his tank is still going strong, so it's possible to use alternative porous rock, but it will make the start bumpier and will take longer for everything to settle down, plus you don't get the diversity of life.

I also have a UV filter because the fish I keep often do badly in quarantine tanks, so that helps supress ich and other nasties, and it helps get rid of things like cyano and dinos. I had one already before I set up this tank from the last freshwater disaster too which I still can't bear to do again so it's on this tank! It's not 100% necessary but you are gonna be more prone to disasters without it.

Lastly I have 3 AI primes - a freshwater one in the middle (which I already had), and 2 reef ones either side. If you are interested in keeping a nice range of corals, I recommend using a light which has some UV and blue. I programme all my lights to be white/red/green-heavy from 10am - 6pm, and then blue heavy until 9pm (the middle light goes out) so I get a good amount of both - marine tanks like lighting for 11-12 hours ideally. This si because corals are photosynthetic, but with a different spectrum to plants. For the first 2 months I just used my freshwater Twinstar 900 light, and with this light the macroalgae and several corals survived and looked ok, so you could start with a freshwater light to get everything established and grow your confidence before splurging on a reef light and adding other corals. Only zoas and green star polyps started dying on me with the white-only light (mushrooms, kenya tree, tubipora, and xenia all fine), with the reef lights I have now though, all the corals I have are looking really fat, fluffy and colourful, and growing healthily, so it's worth it longterm.

Basically macroalgae marine tanks are very very similar to freshwater ones, which is why we I can run it without equipment like a protein skimmer, plants just makes everything more stable and resilliant. Macroalgae also grows as fast and healthy for me as a high tech freshwater tank, which is fab cos I think this tank is easier and has a much bigger margin of error/laziness allowed than a hightech. You will need some ferts for it, I use Tropica Specialised Nutrition, Brightwell ChaetoGro and TropicMarin All For Reef, a few quirts of each a week basically, I haven't been scientific about it (though if you wanted to be, you could get VERY scientific about it). I trim my macroalgae once a week, and I change the water once a month. I will happily send macroalgae to people, but it seems to die very quickly in air so I need to look up the best small cheap packaging for it.

You need a lid for marine, most of the fish jump and the evaporation is high and more important to keep on top of. I've got a lid with cutouts done in toughened glass from my local glaser, it's arriving next week so will see how it goes! Before I had a lid I topped off with RO every 3 days, but now it's just weekly.

Water-wise, you need to get some salty water. There are a range of options, you can get real filtered sea water delivered, get it from your LFS, or make it yourself. You need RO and a salt which you mix in for a few hours with a heater (marine fish don't like temp changes apparently). You can make the RO water yourself, or do what I do which is go to a pleasantly local Spotless Water station and buy it there for super cheap. If you mix it yourself, you need extra buckets (maybe big ones), a heater and wavemaker to mix and heat it. Because you're probably not gonna do it as often nor as high a proportion as 50%, it's not that much more faff than fresh. Plus a refractometer to measure salinity. Plus some gloves for handling liverock so you don't get stung by a bristleworm.

Ok I think that's it! Hopefully I didn't make it sound too hard, I would judge it in terms of effort as like a hightech to set up the first time, and like a lowtech once it's past the first 3 months. Definitely doable and totally worth it. The only annoying thing is that the creatures themselves are more expensive than freshwater, but tbh they are all so wonderful it doesn't hurt too much. I have stayed away from expensive corals, and you can definitely get good deals on places like ultimatereef.net where people sell loads of coral frags and tank bits they're shutting down for v reasonable prices.
 
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That's great, thanks for taking the time to write this @shangman, it's much appreciated and it's a far more comprehensive response than I'd hoped for. Your marine ecosystem is without a doubt one of the best I've ever seen and I will definitely be following your advice and setting up something similar, eventually.
 
That might have been me if it's on r2r. I used to write alot on there before the mass exodus of enlightened people a few years ago. I haven't been on since tbh



I think the clown goby should be fine. They are so cryptic and have a noxious body coating, that very few things even look at them. They have been found in the wild to protect coral heads and there is interesting research which shows a symbiotic relationship where the coral secretes a kind of distress call that the fish reacts to.



Starfish are tricky because like cuc they may have already met their end before people even buy them. They are really delicate and need to be handled properly from collection-wholesaler-lfs-tank and the issue is if acclimation isn't right the whole way, or they suffer shipping stress, then they can be slowly dying before you add them to the tank. It can take months for starfish to die, mostly though starvation but also because their delicate hydrovascular system gets damaged. You also rightly make the point that we don't know what most species eat or simply can't provide enough food for them luckily linckia seems to be the more least difficult species so I hope you have it for years to come.
Aha! To be honest I am disappointed that none of the marine forums really live up to UKAPS, I don’t find any as useful and open. A big part of it is there’s just a general meh attitude about macroalgae on all reef forums, they’re a tiny tiny tiny percentage of tanks kept/journaled. I really think growing the marine/macroalgae section on UKAPS would be worth it (by people giving a lil marine tank a try), because ultimately it’s not that different from freshwater in method at all, and it’s just as fun! The general view of macroalgae on marine forums is very low, it’s considered very meh compared to corals and often a pest, but as plant people we know it’s so much more than that. And like you quite a few people here have already dabbled in marine too, so really a little home here makes sense :)

Hopefully one day I can keep the same coral as the coral goby wants. It looks so much like the macro algae it looks like it’s from the same place, but it would be good to give it its real home, and maybe a whole group. Dreaming of a bigger tank already 😂

Ah of course, just like otos! It is a big relief to see mine eat and move around, I have seen starfish at a shop ‘unravel’ and it was really grim :(
 
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Gotta say, this is a fabulous tank and if anyone is going to be inspired to try the salty side. This would do it.

I want one already but not sure it’s really compatible with working away from home 4 days a week (which is another way of saying ‘the fish sitter will shoot me!😂) Might be moving work location in the next year though so never say never.

Thank you for the fab update. It’s a joy! 😊
 
Im having trouble coming up with words that are sufficient to describe it 😍
Definitely the most beautiful saltwater tank that I have ever seen so far in my life
All your little creatures are really beautiful and unique too, I love the pipefish / salt noodles especially :woot:
 
The macro algae scene I think never really took off because it's just so hard to get a variety of macro's. A couple of caulerpa's are commonly available but they will always be a ticking time bomb and the most interesting ones just aren't traded. The other nice macro's are either so expensive to buy or just not available in Europe.
In the past the only way to get different species was to cultivate it from live rock but then live rock started to come in power washed of all life and became public enemy number one. It got very expensive buying any macro because you essentially were paying for the rock to be shipped, making them cost more than most corals.
Most transhippers also never bothered with it and it was extremely difficult to get. I was once contacted by the Deep in Hull because they wanted to buy some seagrass. I thought they would have been able to get hold of it easier than we could but they bought a couple of boxes (I did it at cost) and was delighted a few years later to see they were the first to get Halophila ovalis to flower in Europe (I think it was Europe but it might have been in captivity, I can't find the article at the moment).

I'll have to try and dig out some of my old photo's to show how limiting it was back then and how now I'm a little envious of some of the things available.
 
The macro algae scene I think never really took off because it's just so hard to get a variety of macro's.
I'll have to try and dig out some of my old photo's to show how limiting it was back then and how now I'm a little envious of some of the things available.

I know this also from personal experience. Way back in the day when I kept marine inverts all I could get hold of was caulerpa. Not sure what species it was, but it grew like the clappers and then literally disappeared overnight. But back then all I had were actinic, grolux, and northlight T12s for lighting and fertz feeding was relatively unknown, and if it was added, it was basic horticultural stuff like tomato feed, which I used on occasion in my low-energy planted tank.

The problem is obviously supply and demand. But it's sort of a catch 22, no supply, nothing to spark demand either. But looking at @shangman's and @Courtneybst's tanks I think this may well be about to change. If I wasn't just about to embark on a massive restoration project I'd be setting a planted marine tank up myself, like yesterday.

There is plenty of room and expertise on this forum for both saltwater and freshwater planted tanks and it'd be great to see more marine aquarium journals. And it is easy to add new forums to the list to reflect this, For instance a "growing marine/macroalgae section" is a great idea.
 
This looks amazing! I love the variety of life you get with a marine tank, those pipefish are brilliant. I can’t let the boss see this otherwise she’ll be wanting me to ship my boring brown catfish out the door, she’s always wanted a ‘Nemo’. 😂
 
@Tim Harrison it's was most likely caulerpa prolifera. That was the most common caulerpa for a very long time before taxifolia (which is much more likely to sexually reproduce however) showed up before racemosa became available (which is even more likely to sexual reproduce). C. taxifolia is one I'm surprised hasn't been banned yet as it's taking over Mediterranean


I know most people on this forum love Takishi Amano but for me Julian Sprung has always been a bit of a hero.
 
"growing marine/macroalgae section" is a great idea.
Good point! Especially as the community as a whole is still learning aspects of macroalgae growth and the conditions that favour them. Forums like UKAPS are the perfect place to discuss and hone each others knowledge.

The demand is slowly creeping, and I try and do my bit to help increase demand by giving it away to other hobbyists and local fish shops so people can see it first hand.
This one is stunning, loving it, makes me want a marine!
What you waiting for? 😛
 
Hi Shangman (and courtneybst!) . I know you both from UR!

Out of pure inspiration I just googled your name to re-read your tank thread again when it pulled up this, and I realised this is in fact the real thread! I've set up an account as I'm very sorely tempted to set up a dedicated macro algae display after seeing both of yours and others. I love how natural they look. I'm already a lover of inverts so this seems like a good project alongside a reef, lets me have both!

Have you found a good source of marine algae? There are some amazing members on UR with some good stuff, though it seems the rarer stuff just won't make it here anymore. Look forward to seeing your tanks grow more, and may bother you all soon with a bunch of questions!
 
Hi Shangman (and courtneybst!) . I know you both from UR!

Out of pure inspiration I just googled your name to re-read your tank thread again when it pulled up this, and I realised this is in fact the real thread! I've set up an account as I'm very sorely tempted to set up a dedicated macro algae display after seeing both of yours and others. I love how natural they look. I'm already a lover of inverts so this seems like a good project alongside a reef, lets me have both!

Have you found a good source of marine algae? There are some amazing members on UR with some good stuff, though it seems the rarer stuff just won't make it here anymore. Look forward to seeing your tanks grow more, and may bother you all soon with a bunch of questions!
Hi Jake!

That's awesome, I'd love to help in any way. I won't hijack Rosie's journal but happy to chat in private message. 😀

Sourcing wise (although I haven't bought any for ages), is mainly eBay and Planted Reef. The situation is a bit dire at the moment so it seems the best bet is finding things that come as bycatch with livestock at your LFS or on the back of snails. Always peer into the back of all the tanks at your LFS, there's usually macroalgae somewhere, especially round the powerheads and filter outlets!
 
Thank you! Would you be able to drop me a pm? I don't seem to have permissions for anything yet haha. I like the exotic stuff anyway so well versed in rummaging through lfs displays, haven't managed to find any algae though I must admit. I did manage to pick up some lovely yellow tunicates this week though!
 
Hi all,
The situation is a bit dire at the moment so it seems the best bet is finding things that come as bycatch with livestock at your LFS or on the back of snails. Always peer into the back of all the tanks at your LFS, there's usually macroalgae somewhere, especially round the powerheads and filter outlets!
Has any-one tried our native Red algae? @foxfish ?

You get a huge range of species in deep rock pools and sub-tidally. Some species that look like they might be suitable? are really common, like <"Lomentaria articulata">, <"Ceramium "virgatum"">, <"Phycodrys rubens"> or <"Plocamium cartilagineum">. A deep rock pool, anywhere along a rocky coast, should provide all of those, and probably the Green algae <"Bryopsis plumosa"> as well.

cheers Darrel
 
Hi all,

Has any-one tried our native Red algae? @foxfish ?

You get a huge range of species in deep rock pools and sub-tidally. Some species that look like they might be suitable? are really common, like <"Lomentaria articulata">, <"Ceramium "virgatum"">, <"Phycodrys rubens"> or <"Plocamium cartilagineum">. A deep rock pool, anywhere along a rocky coast, should provide all of those, and probably the Green algae <"Bryopsis plumosa"> as well.

cheers Darrel
I believe there was a channel on YouTube that did a welsh coldwater rockpool biotope and used some algae he found, looked really good. Not sure if it would survive tropical temps though. I think this is how one of the invasive ulva species made it in to the hobby too
 
omg thanks you guys 😍😍😍 so many lovely comments <3 I'll make sure to keep it more updated.

That's great, thanks for taking the time to write this @shangman, it's much appreciated and it's a far more comprehensive response than I'd hoped for. Your marine ecosystem is without a doubt one of the best I've ever seen and I will definitely be following your advice and setting up something similar, eventually.
Thank you Tim, and I hope you do! I have had so much fun with this tank, it makes it easy to talk about it. I was so surprised to find it just as easy as a freshwater tank, if not easier for me to get a great effect. I don’t like tanks which are too much work long term 😅

Gotta say, this is a fabulous tank and if anyone is going to be inspired to try the salty side. This would do it.

I want one already but not sure it’s really compatible with working away from home 4 days a week (which is another way of saying ‘the fish sitter will shoot me!😂) Might be moving work location in the next year though so never say never.

Thank you for the fab update. It’s a joy! 😊
I’ma big fan of keeping tanks that work for you and your lifestyle! Hopefully a lil seaweed aquarium will be in your future :)

Sometimes I imagine a great tank which I think I couldn’t set up for a few years, and then 3 months later, an unexpected space in the house just magically becomes available perfect for it.

Im having trouble coming up with words that are sufficient to describe it 😍
Definitely the most beautiful saltwater tank that I have ever seen so far in my life
All your little creatures are really beautiful and unique too, I love the pipefish / salt noodles especially :woot:
😭😭😭 thank you!! There are a good few really stunning macro algae tanks around, will find some links soon. There’s something about the familiar-weirdness about them all that is so pleasing.

I have always wanted some sort of pipefish in freshwater, but it’s so difficult to keep them, and basically never in a community tank. They also never hide (unlike my kuhli noodles), definitely my favourite noodles to keep so far. Ngl if the tank was a little larger I’d keep some more like @Courtneybst has too. Even the pipe fish have a few different distinct species in looks and behaviour!!!

The macro algae scene I think never really took off because it's just so hard to get a variety of macro's. A couple of caulerpa's are commonly available but they will always be a ticking time bomb and the most interesting ones just aren't traded. The other nice macro's are either so expensive to buy or just not available in Europe.
In the past the only way to get different species was to cultivate it from live rock but then live rock started to come in power washed of all life and became public enemy number one. It got very expensive buying any macro because you essentially were paying for the rock to be shipped, making them cost more than most corals.
Most transhippers also never bothered with it and it was extremely difficult to get. I was once contacted by the Deep in Hull because they wanted to buy some seagrass. I thought they would have been able to get hold of it easier than we could but they bought a couple of boxes (I did it at cost) and was delighted a few years later to see they were the first to get Halophila ovalis to flower in Europe (I think it was Europe but it might have been in captivity, I can't find the article at the moment).

I'll have to try and dig out some of my old photo's to show how limiting it was back then and how now I'm a little envious of some of the things available.
I would love to see your old photos of it all, thank you for the background in it all!

It does seem like macros are an uphill battle to be brought in, I’ve only got common easy ones, the offering is very small still. I have seen some really interesting ones sold in Europe though which would be amazing to keep. It seems like after Brexit some rare plants are getting through the borders legally, I feel like there must be a chance that someone can get it in for a not extortionate but not cheap price. Of course that’s probably only with extra demand. It seems crazy that all this other weird unusual stuff comes in in marine, but not a lil bit of interesting plant matter, even if I get the market forces behind it!

I know this also from personal experience. Way back in the day when I kept marine inverts all I could get hold of was caulerpa. Not sure what species it was, but it grew like the clappers and then literally disappeared overnight. But back then all I had were actinic, grolux, and northlight T12s for lighting and fertz feeding was relatively unknown, and if it was added, it was basic horticultural stuff like tomato feed, which I used on occasion in my low-energy planted tank.

The problem is obviously supply and demand. But it's sort of a catch 22, no supply, nothing to spark demand either. But looking at @shangman's and @Courtneybst's tanks I think this may well be about to change. If I wasn't just about to embark on a massive restoration project I'd be setting a planted marine tank up myself, like yesterday.

There is plenty of room and expertise on this forum for both saltwater and freshwater planted tanks and it'd be great to see more marine aquarium journals. And it is easy to add new forums to the list to reflect this, For instance a "growing marine/macroalgae section" is a great idea.
I think you’re totally right about the supply and demand and what a catch 22 it is! Hopefully with it becoming more popular a business or two will realise the gap in the market. I think Courtney has inspired quite a few Brits on Instagram too.

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It has been really easy to grow with very little going sexual and all dropping dead on me (just small bits at a time which are way to remove). I've used exactly the same philosophy in growing it as our freshwater plants and it's worked so well.

This looks amazing! I love the variety of life you get with a marine tank, those pipefish are brilliant. I can’t let the boss see this otherwise she’ll be wanting me to ship my boring brown catfish out the door, she’s always wanted a ‘Nemo’. 😂
Thank you!! The diversity is what I love too, the number of unusual small creatures is astonishing, and they're all so unique. Maybe you can find space for a lil nemo with the boss, along with a few other strange little beasts ;)

@Tim Harrison it's was most likely caulerpa prolifera. That was the most common caulerpa for a very long time before taxifolia (which is much more likely to sexually reproduce however) showed up before racemosa became available (which is even more likely to sexual reproduce). C. taxifolia is one I'm surprised hasn't been banned yet as it's taking over Mediterranean


I know most people on this forum love Takishi Amano but for me Julian Sprung has always been a bit of a hero.
I've kept Caulerpa taxifolia and Caulerpa racemosa, in taxifolia only one or two 'leaves' at a time have gone sexual on me, it's just like leaf decay on a freshwater plant. The racemosa is a more spicy one, whole sprigs will drop dead over night, but I've never had all of it die.

I watched an interview with Jullian Sprung a few months ago, a tour of his astonishing house! I love his mangroves, if I ever have a conservatory I'm 100% growing mangrove trees like him. What else of his would you recommend looking into?

This one is stunning, loving it, makes me want a marine!
Yessss, join usss. I will literally hand deliver you the macroalgae to get you started!

Good point! Especially as the community as a whole is still learning aspects of macroalgae growth and the conditions that favour them. Forums like UKAPS are the perfect place to discuss and hone each others knowledge.

The demand is slowly creeping, and I try and do my bit to help increase demand by giving it away to other hobbyists and local fish shops so people can see it first hand.
I think your tank is what has started the craze in the UK, certainly it's what pushed me into finally trying it! Good old Tigahboy has started a revolution around the world :)

Hi Shangman (and courtneybst!) . I know you both from UR!

Out of pure inspiration I just googled your name to re-read your tank thread again when it pulled up this, and I realised this is in fact the real thread! I've set up an account as I'm very sorely tempted to set up a dedicated macro algae display after seeing both of yours and others. I love how natural they look. I'm already a lover of inverts so this seems like a good project alongside a reef, lets me have both!

Have you found a good source of marine algae? There are some amazing members on UR with some good stuff, though it seems the rarer stuff just won't make it here anymore. Look forward to seeing your tanks grow more, and may bother you all soon with a bunch of questions!
Hello again! I just messaged my LFS yesterday about scribbled porcelain crabs because of your comment, they sound fab. I already have 2 rock flower anemones they could live with too.

Yes this is my aquarium internet home :) Thank you for joining, that is super awesome and I'm so happy to have helped inspire you. They do have a really natural vibe, and I find them so relaxing and engaging to watch. Since I set it up, me and my dad spend like an hour every evening just watching it and feeding, there's always something interesting going on! The marine inverts are a big part of that, they are so charming and colourful, and really not that shy at all, even my little pompom crab comes out daily to wave about. If I wasn't too cheap I'd had a group of sexy shrimp wiggling about too.

I don't have any rare macroalgaes yet sadly, it has been really hard to source. I've tried about 8 types (with 5 doing amazing and 3 eaten by a money cowrie before I realised :') ), and I think there are about 10-12 easily available, maybe 2 more which come up sometimes on ebay once a year for slightly rude amounts (though cheap compared to most corals still). I've tried harvesting and sending out macro and miserably failed so far, it seems to need to always be in water, and the post polished off the rest. I'll look up how to post it properly and start offering it here. Ultimate Reef does have some good stuff sometimes, and good portions too. I got most of mine from Courtney, ebay and PlantedReef. I'm sure that more can be found if the interest is there, I'm currently following up 2 different leads for more.

Please do bother us with questions, that's what this forum is all about !
 
Thank you! Would you be able to drop me a pm? I don't seem to have permissions for anything yet haha. I like the exotic stuff anyway so well versed in rummaging through lfs displays, haven't managed to find any algae though I must admit. I did manage to pick up some lovely yellow tunicates this week though!
oooooh, let me know how those tunicates go, they're another thing on the ever-expanding list! Hopefully the starfish wouldn't eat them :eek:

Hi all,

Has any-one tried our native Red algae? @foxfish ?

You get a huge range of species in deep rock pools and sub-tidally. Some species that look like they might be suitable? are really common, like <"Lomentaria articulata">, <"Ceramium "virgatum"">, <"Phycodrys rubens"> or <"Plocamium cartilagineum">. A deep rock pool, anywhere along a rocky coast, should provide all of those, and probably the Green algae <"Bryopsis plumosa"> as well.

cheers Darrel
A native macro/rock-pool tank would be epic, we have some beautiful seaweeds and many fabulous creatures. It would be fab to see someone set one up who lives near the sea and has access to try it out, I imagine it would be simple to set up, just need a cooler for the summer. Coolers are expensive, but with all free inhabitants it'd be a pretty reasonably priced tank to build! I would really like to set one up one day.

I did find a macroalgae in my LFS which turned out to be some sort of bladderwrack, sadly it started to look burnt and melt so I pulled it out. It would be interesting to see if any of those seaweeds which are in higher-up rockpools could do ok in a tropical tank, some of those rockpools get very hot in summer.
 
I am afraid that any pictures of my cold water marine tanks have been lost over time.
There was a journalist who worked for Practical fish keeping, Dr David Sands was his name and he came to my house and photographed my tanks but that was around 30 years ago!
I am regularly tempted to set up a local marine tank just to show folk how spectacular they can be!
However like most marine set ups, if you want to do it properly it takes a dedicated effort and at my stage of life, I just don't have the incentive.
So my cold water set ups used double glazed front glass and and insulated back and sides and a cooler that was situated outside.
Filtration was a large protein skimmer, trickle filter and by weekly 50% water change straight from the sea.

The tanks were extremely successful in their own right but the massive advantage for me was the fact that I could not only collect my livestock but also return it to the sea should I see any issues or want a change.
Basically I would collect specimens from rock pools at low tide, mainly in the form of an piece of rock covered in seaweed and algae.
Very often, certain creatures and seaweeds would start to look a bit shabby, so I would return these to the sea and try something else until you work out what really thrives.
Creatures like Snakelocks anemone would grow like crazy and multiply, many algae and seaweeds would out grow the tank in a matter of weeks.
My last local marine tank was a four foot display in my lounge that had people amazed when they saw it.
There were many types of red seaweed and red algae but I cant remember the names.
 
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