Im having an interesting issue with my Nesaea/Ammania, where the leaf edges curl up quite dramatically. The spine of the leaves also bends horizontally. It looks like it has increased in severity lately, which could be related to decreased water changes and leaner dosing.
Normally I would write it off as impossible to know the cause of, since I run low tech / no CO2 and it would be impossible to rule CO2 out as a cause.
But I am also seeing this leaf curling in my frogbit, which is light and CO2 unlimited.
Im aware its a bit of a guessing game but does anyone fancy a shot at what nutrient I could increase (or perhaps less likely decrease) to alleviate this?
Stats:
180 liter tank
Filtered by Ultramax 2000 and Eheim 350
Lights are two Fluval 3.0 currently running at 15% each. 10 hours lighting duration.
Substrate is plain sand, although the Nesaea and some other plants are in pots with Tropica Soil and a sand cap.
Non CO2
Weekly total ferts (dosed daily by doser)
7.12 ppm NO3
0.37 ppm PO4
4.62 ppm K
0.025 ppm Fe DTPA
0.05 ppm Fe EDTA
0.011 ppm Mn
0.007 ppm Zn
0.006 ppm B
0.0009 ppm Mo
0.001 ppm Cu
Water change lately 25% every two weeks.
Soft tap water, no nitrate, waterworks reports average of 22 ppm Calcium. Traces and other elements are unknown. TDS ~65
KH somewhere around 3 and GH comes out of tap as 3, upped to 6 with GH booster containing Calcium and Magnesium sulfate.
Tank TDS usually sits around 140 ~ 160. I do not dose calcium and magnesium as ferts, only as part of the water change water.
Leaf curling in frogbit seems to have decreased some, so it was hard to capture on camera, but I have circled the worst leaves in red. They also seem strangely oblong.
Overall frogbit status looks a little pale in real life, they show up greener on camera. Circled in blue is a leaf that shows the paleness a bit more realistically.
I just bunged a bit of Magnesium in the tank. If lack of Magnesium is causing the paleness, it should green up fairly quickly.
I will retake photos of frogbit in a few days to check. But I dont know if magnesium or iron deficiency can cause curling leaf edges?
I think maybe the paleness is not related to the leaf curling
Normally I would write it off as impossible to know the cause of, since I run low tech / no CO2 and it would be impossible to rule CO2 out as a cause.
But I am also seeing this leaf curling in my frogbit, which is light and CO2 unlimited.
Im aware its a bit of a guessing game but does anyone fancy a shot at what nutrient I could increase (or perhaps less likely decrease) to alleviate this?
Stats:
180 liter tank
Filtered by Ultramax 2000 and Eheim 350
Lights are two Fluval 3.0 currently running at 15% each. 10 hours lighting duration.
Substrate is plain sand, although the Nesaea and some other plants are in pots with Tropica Soil and a sand cap.
Non CO2
Weekly total ferts (dosed daily by doser)
7.12 ppm NO3
0.37 ppm PO4
4.62 ppm K
0.025 ppm Fe DTPA
0.05 ppm Fe EDTA
0.011 ppm Mn
0.007 ppm Zn
0.006 ppm B
0.0009 ppm Mo
0.001 ppm Cu
Water change lately 25% every two weeks.
Soft tap water, no nitrate, waterworks reports average of 22 ppm Calcium. Traces and other elements are unknown. TDS ~65
KH somewhere around 3 and GH comes out of tap as 3, upped to 6 with GH booster containing Calcium and Magnesium sulfate.
Tank TDS usually sits around 140 ~ 160. I do not dose calcium and magnesium as ferts, only as part of the water change water.
Leaf curling in frogbit seems to have decreased some, so it was hard to capture on camera, but I have circled the worst leaves in red. They also seem strangely oblong.
Overall frogbit status looks a little pale in real life, they show up greener on camera. Circled in blue is a leaf that shows the paleness a bit more realistically.
I just bunged a bit of Magnesium in the tank. If lack of Magnesium is causing the paleness, it should green up fairly quickly.
I will retake photos of frogbit in a few days to check. But I dont know if magnesium or iron deficiency can cause curling leaf edges?
I think maybe the paleness is not related to the leaf curling
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