johnny70 said:
Thanks for that Matt 😀
I'm using coffee jar (nescafe) at the moment, so they have lots of water, will take the lids off, they were on, just so if I knocked them over, have been doing a weekly water change so I'll try to start daily or every other day.
I do have some brown moss in there in a couple of pots, this was the moss not being in a great condition when I received it, so I remove the them or will they be ok?
As for species I have
Holger
Flame
Weeping(not in great condition)
Fissidens splachnobryoides
Fissidens Zippelianus
Fissidens Fontanus
And a couple of other mixed ones, probably Christmas, spikey and java
JOHNNY
Nescafe jar sounds good (I use similar), taking the lids off is not vital, but helps keeps them that little bit cooler.
If you are getting no build up of dirt, then you might be fine with the weekly changes.
I'd say - change to daily, see if there is any difference after a few days and if not go back to weekly
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If it is just a little bit that is brown then 'd leave the brown moss in, as you are quite likely to get new moss growing off it. If it gets to a point where it starts disintegrating or rotting then it will start fouling the water and at that point I would take it out, but not throw it away....
If I have a portion that is nearly all brown then I separate the good bits and keep them in a separate pot. Then as green moss grows off the brown move it into the 'good' pot. Over a few weeks you see that most of the brown moss disintegrates into nothing but enough grows off of it to generate a good portion of moss. It is time consuming and a bit of a pain doing this - the fiddlyness occurs as you get the dirt out but keep the teeniest bits of growing moss in\separated. I did this with my peacock moss and it took me a month of 5 min every day to get things established.
Ideally the splachno would go in an emersed setup (See my reply to TBPro's below). If you try it in pots this method is likely to work (it will defnitely be good for your other mosses as a general 'coaxing moss into health' method):
Keep it in a flat container (like a chinese takeaway container for example), fill it with water, but spread the moss out and make sure that it is touching\breaking the waters surface. If it is 'drowning' lower the water level accordingly. Then (for sprachno) if you want to try them submerged slowly increase the water level and see how you go. For the other mosses just drown them when you want to!
Weeping is probably the fastest grower out of what you have, so if that one is in the worst condition I'd say it is good news as it will recover fastest
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I'd like to get my hands on your Fissidens Zippelianus and Fissidens splachnobryoides (the splachno would go in my emersed setup). The rest of your list I have or have had already. A smidgen of of each would be OK if your portions ar esmall to start with. I can offer you some triangle moss (very rare!), and a tiny smidge of fissidens madagascar (super rare!) in return.
TBRO said:
Hey Matt,
I would be interested in seeing this as an article. I'm considering doing a large scape using mostly moss so would be interested in any speedy propagation method like you suggest. Have you tried things like star moss and F.splachnobryoides of Aquamagic to any good result ? I've heard some conflicting reports :?:
Cheers Tom (sorry for the hijack)
I have heard (I can not verify this, but am leaning towards believing it) many say that Fissidens splachnobryoides (not all fissidens are the same!) and star moss are not true aquatic mosses and will not live permanently submerged.
Either way the consensus is that they clearly do better emersed.
Those that have grown them submerged seem to have only done it for a few months, and they say CO2 helps... and the goal seems to be keeping them alive, your not going to get rampant growth from them. So if you wanted large coverage I would go with something more tried and trusted.
I think this is getting close to all my moss knowledge, but keep asking questions and we will see what else I can think of!
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